This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Clifton, Miller, Skinner, Nace, Reubenacher Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/yYB.2ACI/15194 Message Board Post: Looking for the family of Frances Aubrey ("Corky") Clifton b. 1938, who married Lola Donna Jean Skinner. Had 3 children born in Columbus, Franklin Co., Ohio, Eddie Lee Clifton b. 1957, Johnny Ray Clifton b. 1963, and Debbie Ann Clifton b. 1963, any help locating this family would be greatly appreciated. Frances the son of Minnie Mae Miller (l Clifton) (2 Reeves) (3 Johnson).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hunter, McGown Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15193 Message Board Post: On Ancestry.com I found mention of the marriage of Martha McGown and John Hunter, Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio, January 28, 1813. Are there records of marriages that far back still kept in Columbus? What would I have to do to get a copy of this if they are available? I would appreciate your help Thanks Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McGown Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15192 Message Board Post: In a book, "The Official Roster of the Soldiers of the American Revolution Buried in the State of Ohio",1929, there was mention of John McGown having a masonic funeral. Reference copy from Columbus Gazette, September 1, 1825. It said he had died August 31, 1825. I was wondering if there would still be copies of this paper around the Columbus area that I could get a copy of that article. I would really appreciate any help Thanks Joan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Whitehead Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15191 Message Board Post: Looking for any information on the Wilmot Whitehead family listed in the 1910 Census, Franklin Co, Reynoldsburg TWP.. wife Mary, children Mabel, Wilda, Rexford, Nelson, Helen...marraiges deaths, ect

There are now over 70,000 records for your viewing at the URL below. Enjoy Joe http://greenlawn.delawareohio.us/

Dorene Would you like some census records? Let me know Lindsey

Dorene, The Obetz Cemetery Association was able to help me. Here is their address and phone number. 4455 Groveport Rd. Columbus, OH. 43207 614-491-2164 Hope this helps! Debbie

I am looking for information on Charles Rohn born about 1850 in Ohio married a Mariah Miller probably about 1871. Had two children Charles & Mary Jane. Possibly buried in Obetz Cemetery. Can anyone help me? Dorene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ender, reiss Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15190 Message Board Post: looking for info on john ender born about 1813 or so, married to barbara ender, there was a first wife before barbara.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15189 Message Board Post: The Tussing surname D N A project has been started. The following names have been selected to participate. Tussing, Tusing, Dusing, Dussing, Dussinger, Tussinger A male family member must participate in this project. It is easy to join and the cost is reasonable. http://www.dnaheritage.com or email info@dnaheritage. com Ask to join the Tussing Surname Project. Darrell D. Tussing

Hi Denise, I purchased (in an antique store in Westerville) a newspaper article and photo of Grace Jordan. I also purchased what appears to be some sort of medical journal that belonged to her. I tried posting here and on the JORDAN list to get these items to an ancestor. I would still be more than happy to send these items to family. Joyce Fullen Grove City OH [1]http://www.fullenfamily.com On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:07:01 -0500, [2]"Denise Ashleman" <saultz@bellsouth.net> said: > one of the first, if not THE FIRST woman to graduate from the Ohio State University School of Medicine as a M.D.,Grace Jordan, > M.D. > > > > ==== OHFRANKL Mailing List ==== > Franklin County, Ohio OHGenWeb > [3]www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/ > References 1. http://www.fullenfamily.com/ 2. mailto:saultz@bellsouth.net 3. file://localhost/tmp/linkstmp/www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/

There are now over 69,000 records for the interments at Green Lawn Cemetery. Please, when you request a copy of the index records, let me know if you find any errors. Your help is appreciated. You can find the records at http://greenlawn.delawareohio.us/ Enjoy Joe

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/yYB.2ACI/15044.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Linda, Thanks anyway and thank you for responding. Tina

As the Granddaughter of a nurse born in the late 1800's, and due to the fact that I was delivered by one of the first, if not THE FIRST woman to graduate from the Ohio State University School of Medicine as a M.D.,Grace Jordan, M.D. I have always known the importance of being an organ donor, and/or anything else that may be needed to save the life of someone's child, parent, sibling, etc. You must make sure that your family is aware of your desire and will not stop your wishes from being carried out. If you do not, your next of kin can object, regardless of anything you have written or said. You can now also donate umbilical cord stem cell blood that can, and is being used to save lives of others with previously fatal diseases every day. Every pregnant mother should know about this and ask for the information on this. This vital stem cell source is being discarded in mass as medical waste every second in this country. We must continue to learn, with compassion and consideration. Our life and what we do with it is what gives our lives meaning and leaves the legacy for future generations. In genealogy we use the dash in between birth and death, make your dash count, future generations depend on it.

I hesitated to add my two cents worth to this discussion of grave robbing and body snatching but since Maxine did I will, too. I feel sorry for both of these men. One man is right about the moral and legal aspects the other is hurt as I understand this Doctor was his ancestor. Let's face it we all have skeletons in our Genealogy closet, sometimes it hurts to have them come out but that is all part of Genealogy. I don't know if I knew such things happened for science. I do know that it happened to steal jewelry, etc from the bodies. My greatgrandmother was buried with an antique, family heirloom broach in 1944. I understand that now the funeral directors do not allow jewelry to stay in the casket. Before a person dies, they can WILL their body to a Medical College for research. If you do that, please tell your family FIRST. Our neighbor woman was horribly shocked when her mother died and they took her body right away. She had no idea her mother had willed her body for research. I see nothing wrong with that or donating organs. But, grave robbing and body snatching Nada. Sallie

Well now that you mentioned about donating your body to research, I just told myspouce that is what I will do. Solve any problems and help humanity. My father's Dr. asked me if there was something that I would do for research. I told him yes. My fa. had Multimyaloma and somethng else. He thrived on the only known in 1967/8 treatment for this. Most people couldn't take this medicine which called for blood test every 6 weeks to determine the amount treatment. It would kill them. He lived 5 yr's + with it. I told them when he died to take the portion or part that they would need which they did. He was the first of this case to ever be able to supply anything as such. 6 months later the Dr. called me and told me that because of my generosity and my father's as I asked him and he agreed ,that they were able to get some much needed info and do research etc. that would help thousands in the future in that it would probably save their lives. The Dr. later also passed on to me more that several at thattime were saved and more on the way. . I told my spouse that I am donating my body to the reasearch Hospital and Clinic that has been Dr'ing me since 1978. It is a well known Western US place. My Dau. and my spouce have been after me to go without more and save money for my funeral but I am sick of hearing this when all we have to live on is SS and we can't even buy the medicines we need, plus we go with out more than I can ever put in a EMail either. We can't go anywhere unless absolutley neccesary nor celebrate Holidays as no money. Lights run light bill up etc. etc. Gas gone up. We are some that they call as "FALL IN THE CRACKS". You would not believe what all we have to do to save on food, ( have 2 meals a day) save on utilities expense, don't go to Dr. except almost life threatening and more and still can't buy (let alone save for a funeral), about 900.00 worth of meds and pay bare livimg expencs, forced ins. car and med. etc. We had to make a choice, to move into the car and live somwhat as still eating and gas wouldn't leave enough for meds. nor any to pay last expenses. So we opted to stay in the shelter of a house and leave it up to God as he won't take you till he wants you anyway. So I will be helping the public as well as saving my family the expense of a funeral and burial. If I can help in saving other's lives it is well worth it. After your gone, you will only have memories that your family can have anyway. If more people with med. problems as I have and suffer daily from would do this, maybe many more other's could live a better life and longer. I suffer 24/7 with the pain of damaged nerves caused when ith a chicken pox kid that was taken to a Xmas dinner in 2000, caused me and 2 other's , to get ill with SHINGLES. I am still NOT WITHOUT the horrible pain from damageing a nerve at the brain stem. I call it (The Curse Of ThE World". I also have Asthma, , and many other things as well of an artificial hip since 1986. Am facing another one with the other hip, and a Knee replacement plus eye problems from Blephospasms. etc. Anyway I will also be donating my body for the good of the people. Genealogy and this computer even not real new is what keeps me going. I have to finish as much as I can of my genealogy. I help people along the way as well. willma@sprynet.com From: "Sallie L Nelson" <gentenmawps@juno.com> To: <OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [OHFranklin] Re: Looking for Dr. David Beach in 1841 Ohio. > I hesitated to add my two cents worth to this discussion of grave robbing > and body snatching but since Maxine did I will, too. I feel sorry for > both of these men. One man is right about the moral and legal aspects the > other is hurt as I understand this Doctor was his ancestor. > > Let's face it we all have skeletons in our Genealogy closet, sometimes it > hurts to have them come out but that is all part of Genealogy. > > I don't know if I knew such things happened for science. I do know that > it happened to steal jewelry, etc from the bodies. My greatgrandmother > was buried with an antique, family heirloom broach in 1944. I understand > that now the funeral directors do not allow jewelry to stay in the > casket. > > Before a person dies, they can WILL their body to a Medical College for > research. If you do that, please tell your family FIRST. Our neighbor > woman was horribly shocked when her mother died and they took her body > right away. She had no idea her mother had willed her body for research. > I see nothing wrong with that or donating organs. But, grave robbing and > body snatching Nada. > > Sallie > > > ==== OHFRANKL Mailing List ==== > Franklin County, Ohio OHGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/2777.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I know what I have in my possession and I do NOT need a scholar to verify or confirm it. It is an orginal and NOT a copy of an Announement at Worthington College. Yes, I tend to get upset over the stealing of a corpse. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. No matter how you try and slice the engagement it was a crime. Stealing is stealing sir whether it's a dime or a body. As stated before I will NOT help you about Beach because he was an evil, vile and corrupt man. Perhaps you would prefer a Dr. Jekell or Mr. Hyde view. During the day he was a good citizen. I enjoy helping people and will continue to do so. I should have never posted this message to begin with and for that you have my apology. I did NOT post this in an effort to to harrass you, rather to inform you that this man was a body snatcher. I also understand your concern and merits for wanted evidence. But that is the rub, at least for me. Your mind is made up insofar as justifing body snatching for science. My mind is also made up and I feel that body snatching was illegal and macabre. Some medical colleges had a great deal to lose if the communtiy found out they were stealing bodies. Murder was often committed to keep their secrets quiet. I am NOT saying that Beach committed any murders but I am suggesting that had he known, he would have kept quiet. Body snatchers were a highly well organized and secret organization for they had to be for their very existence. Likewise I am also disappointed in your decison NOT to give your proceeds to the cemeteries in Ohio. Not surprised though. Perhaps it is best to simply argree to disagree. There is no need to continue our conversation.

I enjoyed reading this info as I did not know about this kind of thing being a rampant thing in those days. Maybe it will help more people to know what happened to a person they may not be able to find. Also the truth is the truth and if a descendant or family membe4r knows of this maybe it will help them as well. 1... Robbing the grave of contents, material or body wise is and always has been a crime. No excuses?? 2...Some people do things when young that they wouldn't have done later in life and also most are appalled that they could have done this and tend to hide that time in their life. maybe they don't like genealogy for that reason of something in the past. 3... When young and some kids get together they may think it a smart thing to do.. But if caught most will wished they hadn't done such things. Anyway it was enlightening as many of us don't see things the same as the next one . Freedom of speech but not freedom as you CAN do anything. Some things are not permitted ever to be to do. Maxine willma@sprynet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <dennis_brooke2001@yahoo.com> To: <OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:11 PM Subject: [OHFranklin] Re: Looking for Dr. David Beach in 1841 Ohio. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/2777.1.1.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I know what I have in my possession and I do NOT need a scholar to verify or confirm it. It is an orginal and NOT a copy of an Announement at Worthington College. > > Yes, I tend to get upset over the stealing of a corpse. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. No matter how you try and slice the engagement it was a crime. Stealing is stealing sir whether it's a dime or a body. > > As stated before I will NOT help you about Beach because he was an evil, vile and corrupt man. Perhaps you would prefer a Dr. Jekell or Mr. Hyde view. During the day he was a good citizen. > > I enjoy helping people and will continue to do so. I should have never posted this message to begin with and for that you have my apology. I did NOT post this in an effort to to harrass you, rather to inform you that this man was a body snatcher. I also understand your concern and merits for wanted evidence. But that is the rub, at least for me. > > Your mind is made up insofar as justifing body snatching for science. My mind is also made up and I feel that body snatching was illegal and macabre. > > Some medical colleges had a great deal to lose if the communtiy found out they were stealing bodies. Murder was often committed to keep their secrets quiet. I am NOT saying that Beach committed any murders but I am suggesting that had he known, he would have kept quiet. > > Body snatchers were a highly well organized and secret organization for they had to be for their very existence. > > Likewise I am also disappointed in your decison NOT to give your proceeds to the cemeteries in Ohio. Not surprised though. > > Perhaps it is best to simply argree to disagree. There is no need to continue our conversation. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHFRANKL Mailing List ==== > Franklin County, Ohio OHGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Beach Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/2777.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Mr. Brooke: I am disappointed and saddened by your last posting. I can see that you are very emotional around this subject, and I’m willing to believe that it is heartfelt . . . but I fear that you have allowed your emotions to negatively affect your reasoning and judgment. I am disappointed because you again make accusations that are without any supporting evidence. You first attempt to express you moral distaste for “body snatching.” For you, “body snatching” = bad, vile, evil. Fine--I think that comes across even without bringing in the Nazis. . . . but then you again make a claim against Dr. Beach. Mr. Brooke, pay attention, this is important: Are you confusing Dr. David Beach with Dr. Wooster Beach, the father of American Eclecticism and a founder of the Worthington Medical College? If you are speaking of the other Dr. Beach, please admit your error. If you are going to besmirch someone, please be certain of the object of your scorn. To learn more about the sectarian history of 19th century American Medicine, I would encourage you to acquaint yourself with the works of the eminent historian Prof. John Haller. If you are a student of history, you will find his writings very accessible, even if you have moral qualms about some of the subject matter. With Dr. David Beach, are you trying to mak! e some kind of guilt by association case? You mention a list of students and faculty members—there is but one extant to my knowledge, and to the scholars I have spoken with. If you have another, produce it—but I suspect that you have the list that has been published at least two times (and you will notice no mention of a Dr. David Beach among the names). If you have some other list that does include his name, reveal your evidence and, most importantly, cite your source. Mr. Brooke, this is how the science of genealogy and history works—one produces evidence and cites sources for claims, even extraordinary claims. That way qualified researchers (those who bring to the table the requisite knowledge and background to examine such claims) can dialogue and reach a consensus as to the weight of the claims. At this point, the merits of your claim against Dr. David Beach are unable to be examined—as a scientist, I sincerely wish that it were ot! herwise. Claiming an esoteric knowledge that is being withheld out of spite is strange—I’m not sure what that is, but it’s not science (and I think that is what this bulletin board is devoted to—the pursuit of genealogical science ). Finally, I am saddened by your attack upon me personally. Sir, you do not know me, so I find it frankly . . . just weird. You somehow mistake my openness to examine whatever facts you claim to possess as arguing for “body snatching”—please. Though I will say, with a bit of humor, I would much prefer to have my surgeon practice his/her art on dead bodies before he/she touches my live one! Also, would that I wish for “proceeds”!—my current book, as was my last, will be produced as not for profit. Anyway, as I can see you are upset by all of this, I will not attempt to humor you further. Please take this message for what it is: a sincere wish for civility in your future postings, and a genuine encouragement to continue your educat! ion in 19th century American medicine.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/yYB.2ACI/15044.1.2 Message Board Post: Linda, Is there anyway you could lookup another Franklin County marriage for me? I am having lots of trouble finding a marriage date and location for a Carl E. Conrad and a Lenora or Lenna Buck. I think they married about 1935. I would really appreciate your help. Happy holidays, Tina