I found the will of my Fairfield Co. ancestor for about that same time period on film at the Library in Salt Lake. If you're near a FHC you can order it in. The film # for my will was 295,272, but you might want to double check before ordering incase there's more than one. Betty

Hello All Does anyone have an index for Wills for Fairfield Co. Looking for the Will # for Ludwig (Lewis) Kramer/Cramer, who died in 1847. According to some family history he left a will. Thanks for any help Sue Kramer

At 06:57 PM 6/22/98 -0500, Karl Seitz wrote: >>David Crane asked: >>Just for the record, does anyone know how long newspaper copyrights >>last? >It gets more complicated before 1978... >Copyrights before 1964 would have been granted for a period of 28 years >with the right of the copyright holder to renew it for a second period of >28 years. That's a total of 56 years. However, I seriously doubt that many >newspapers renewed such copyrights if they had even bothered to copyright >their contents prior to the law that came into effect in 1978. So, for all practical purposes, any newspaper published before 1964 in the USA, especially one that does not specifically claim copyright, is no longer copyrighted. Now chances are poor that anyone would want to quote such a large portion that they would violate a copyright, but it's nice to knowwhere the line is drawn. Dave Crane Houston, Texas

>David Crane asked: >Just for the record, does anyone know how long newspaper copyrights >last? We should certainly honor them, but, by the same token, we >all need to be aware of the limitations of the law. All newspaper copyrights since Jan. 1, 1978 are for 75 years. These are considered copyrights on work done for hire as opposed to individual copyrights, which last for 50 years past the individual's death. It gets more complicated before 1978. For all practical purposes a 1992 law made all copyrights originally issued between Jan. 1, 1964 and Dec. 31, 1977 last for 75 years (technically a 28-year original term plus an automatic renewal of 47 years). Copyrights before 1964 would have been granted for a period of 28 years with the right of the copyright holder to renew it for a second period of 28 years. That's a total of 56 years. However, I seriously doubt that many newspapers renewed such copyrights if they had even bothered to copyright their contents prior to the law that came into effect in 1978. -- Karl Seitz

Dear Friends, The 75 year rule-of-thumb probably applies, but I will look into it. By the way, I have tried to access the Gazette's webpage at www.eagle-gazette.com through both Netscape and Explorer but have not been successful. Does anyone know if they have a different address? Sheila Rider

In a message dated 98-06-22 14:02:57 EDT, dcrane@hal-pc.org writes: << Just for the record, does anyone know how long newspaper copyrights last? We should certainly honor them, but, by the same token, we all need to be aware of the limitations of the law. >> I'd be interested in the answer to this question also. Betty

Just for the record, does anyone know how long newspaper copyrights last? We should certainly honor them, but, by the same token, we all need to be aware of the limitations of the law. At 08:32 AM 6/22/98 -0400, Karen S. Smith wrote: >The Fairfield County Chapter of The Ohio Genealogical Society is currently >gathering information from publishers about reprinting the 1866 & 1875 >atlases of Fairfield County. We will post here as soon as we have made a >decision. > >Also on another matter, anyone using information from The Eagle Gazette >will want to keep in mind that the newspaper is copyrighted so they need to >site their source explicitly or ask permission from the newspaper to >reprint articles. > >Hope this information is of help. >Karen S. Smith >Corresponding Secretary, Fairfield Co. Chapter OGS > > > Dave Crane Houston, Texas

The Fairfield County Chapter of The Ohio Genealogical Society is currently gathering information from publishers about reprinting the 1866 & 1875 atlases of Fairfield County. We will post here as soon as we have made a decision. Also on another matter, anyone using information from The Eagle Gazette will want to keep in mind that the newspaper is copyrighted so they need to site their source explicitly or ask permission from the newspaper to reprint articles. Hope this information is of help. Karen S. Smith Corresponding Secretary, Fairfield Co. Chapter OGS

OHFAIRFI-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: [OHFAIRFI-L] LANCASTER PHOTOS, LABOR STATS, ATLAS > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 08:45:35 -0400 > From: "Paul F. Wilson" <pwilson@methodist.edu> > To: OHFAIRFI-L@rootsweb.com > > Dear Friends, > > When I was visiting Lancaster two years ago, there was a store on Main > > Street that sold 8 X 10" photos of Lancaster scenes that I believe > were from > the newspaper archives. Does anyone know if that store is still in > existence? I will be in Lancaster in August and wanted to purchase > some. > > I have a newspaper clipping from the Eagle-Gazette dated 1956. It is > from > Juanita Grant's "News Taken for Grant-ed" column. It gives a > description of > downtown Lancaster in the year 1903, naming all of the businesses, > etc. I > plan to put this article on my webpage but wanted to let others know > about > it. > > I also have a copy of the "Sixteenth Annual Report of the Bureau of > Labor > Statistics to the 70th General Assembly of the State of Ohio for the > Year > 1892" which was given to me this year. It has very interesting data > on jobs > and salaries. So, if your ancestor was a hod carrier or a > stonedresser or a > poke-in boy, you can get an idea what kind of hours they worked and > wages > they earned. I will be happy to share any information and will donate > the > book to the Fairfield County District Library if they'd like it. > > Does anyone know if there are any plans to reprint the 1875 > Combination > Atlas Map of Fairfield County? > > Sheila Rider > visit the Philipp/Phillips Family Webpage > www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4585 Sheila Rider, I can't answer your question about, "Does anyone know if there are any plans to reprint the 1875 Combination Atlas Map of Fairfield County?", but do you know approximately when you'll have 1) "News Taken for Grant-ed" and 2) "Sixteenth Annual Report of the Bureau of Labor Statistics to the 70th General Assembly of the State of Ohio for the Year 1892" posted? dmf

Dear Friends, When I was visiting Lancaster two years ago, there was a store on Main Street that sold 8 X 10" photos of Lancaster scenes that I believe were from the newspaper archives. Does anyone know if that store is still in existence? I will be in Lancaster in August and wanted to purchase some. I have a newspaper clipping from the Eagle-Gazette dated 1956. It is from Juanita Grant's "News Taken for Grant-ed" column. It gives a description of downtown Lancaster in the year 1903, naming all of the businesses, etc. I plan to put this article on my webpage but wanted to let others know about it. I also have a copy of the "Sixteenth Annual Report of the Bureau of Labor Statistics to the 70th General Assembly of the State of Ohio for the Year 1892" which was given to me this year. It has very interesting data on jobs and salaries. So, if your ancestor was a hod carrier or a stonedresser or a poke-in boy, you can get an idea what kind of hours they worked and wages they earned. I will be happy to share any information and will donate the book to the Fairfield County District Library if they'd like it. Does anyone know if there are any plans to reprint the 1875 Combination Atlas Map of Fairfield County? Sheila Rider visit the Philipp/Phillips Family Webpage www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4585

Might be changing ISP, need full URL. My book marks are not http://. E-Mail will stay the same for now. Ruth Hall

DO NOT USE REPLY send message to Al Roberts address below >From: Al Roberts <aroberts@nccn.net> >Subject: Re: Robinetts I know there were Robinetts in Fairfield County perhaps some of you can help this man out. He is looking for the county in PA that his Robinetts came from. His message follows: Would that be Westmoreland Co, PA where Peter Weldy was born???? Is anybody there researching these lines? My GG grandmother Polly Weldy married my GG grandfather Jesse Robinett June 18, 1854 in Fairfield Co., Ohio. She was born there May 24, 1837 in Bremen. Her father(Peter Weldy)was born June 17, 1791 in West Morland, PA. I only have one child born to them...my GGrandfather Ross Robinett born in 1856 and then died in Licking Co.,Ohio; I'm sure he had other siblings. Al

As you can see I am cleaning out my e-mail and incase this message never made it to the list - here it is again. Remember DO NOT HIT REPLY write to Bert Shaw at the address below. Sender: bert shaw <GBS@compuserve.com> My father's family spent most of the 1800's in Fairfield & Hocking county, and I am trying to get more of a feel of the area at that time, as well as information about my relatives. In particular: Sarah Ann (SHAW) Sheets taught at "School #6" - probably in either Berne Tp of Fairfield Co or Marion Tp of Hocking Co - about 1860-1865. (I believe her students included BREHM, BRICKER, BROWN,BUTTERWORTH, FEWELL, FEWELL, FOX, HAMILTON, HEFT, HEIDLEBAUGH, IMBODEN, JOHNSON, MASTON, MYERS, and ZWICKLE children). Does anyone know exactly where that school was? Is there a photo of that school in any of the local histories, or elsewhere? Or a list of the teachers? Also: Sarah had several GARRISON grandchildren: Cyril and Ward, and possibly Ola (Garrison?) RITTGERS. I know of only two SHEETS children, Harriet and Erwin. Perhaps Harriet "Hattie" Sheets married a Mr. Garrison, probably about 1890 before she married Joseph ANSEL (their children: Ora and Murl). If not, there must be another daughter I don't know about. Can anyone with information about the ANSEL, GARRISON, RITTGERS, or SHEETS families help me out? Bert Shaw, Portland OR

Please go to the end of this message and reply to the address of the inquirer. DO NOT HIT REPLY. I will be on vacation and do not have this family. Related families: BERRY BIBLER HALL DOOMY BURY THOMAN Dr. Joseph Bury (late 1700 or early 1800's was said to be a physician from Bern, Switzerland who brought his family first to PA and then on to Ohio. He had a son, Dr. Joseph Bury (2nd one), who went to medical school in PA and then practiced in OH. The first Dr. Joseph Bury was married to Anna Marie ____? Bury. The second Dr. Joseph Bury married Anna Doomy, daughter of John Doomy (Thoman was also given as an alternate name???) We would greatly appreciate hearing from anyone familiar with this family. Thank you. Debbie Orick, Dixon, CA and Family of Para Jean Hall Hanowell, daughter of Robert Ellison Hall(descendants) HtRdr1@aol.com P.S. Did Fredrich Augustus II, elector of Saxony, have any connection to Fairfield Co Ohio? The family often told my mother that he, or someone in his family had traveled to OHIO?

Hello, I'm new to this site. Does anyone know how I would go about getting the infromation that is written on a tombstone in the Betzer Union Zion Reformed Church cemetery? I am interested in a John Peter Rabenold. Also does anyone have any infromation at all about the Rabenold, Raubenolt families in that area? Any advice or help of any kind would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you, Jesse Raubenolt

I am currently researching the NEELEY surname. My g-g-grandfather , ******Robert S. Neeley is a descendant of John Neeley. -- Descendants of John Neeley Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 NEELEY. He married ISABELLA 1747. Children of JOHN NEELEY and ISABELLA are: 2. i. DAVID2 NEELEY, b. 1748, Middleton Township, Cumberland Co.,Pa.; d. 1818, Lewistown, Mifflin Co., Pa.. ii. MARY NEELEY, b. 1750; m. ROBERT SANDERSON. iii. REBECCA NEELEY, b. 1752. iv. JENNET NEELEY, b. 1754. v. JOHN NEELEY, b. 1756; m. JANE BATES. vi. RACHAEL NEELEY, b. 1758. Generation No. 2 2. DAVID2 NEELEY (JOHN 1) was born 1748 in Middleton Township, Cumberland Co.,Pa., and died 1818 in Lewistown, Mifflin Co., Pa.. He married ELEANOR BATES 1772, daughter of EDWARD BATES and SARA. Children of DAVID NEELEY and ELEANOR BATES are: 3. i. JOHN3 NEELEY, b. 1773. ii. MATTHEW NEELEY, b. 1774. iii. ISABELLA NEELEY, b. 1775. iv. DAVID NEELEY, b. 1776. 4. v. WILLIAM NEELEY, b. 1781, Pa.; d. July 1837, Rushville, Fairfield Co., OH.. vi. JAMES NEELEY, b. 1783. vii. ROBERT NEELEY, b. 1784. viii. SARAH NEELEY, b. 1789. ix. AGNES NEELEY, b. 1791. x. ELIZABETH NEELEY, b. 1795. Generation No. 3 3. JOHN3 NEELEY (DAVID 2, JOHN 1) was born 1773. He married MARY THOMPSON 01 March 1804. Child of JOHN NEELEY and MARY THOMPSON is: i. JAMES4 NEELEY, m. ROSEANNA GREEN NEELEY. 4. WILLIAM3 NEELEY (DAVID 2, JOHN 1) was born 1781 in Pa., and died July 1837 in Rushville, Fairfield Co., OH.. He married JANE STERRETT 1811, daughter of ROBERT STERRETT and ROSEANNAH GREEN. Children of WILLIAM NEELEY and JANE STERRETT are: i. DAVID4 NEELEY, b. 14 January 1814. ii. ROSEANNA GREEN NEELEY, b. 13 July 1816; m. JAMES NEELEY. iii. ELLINOR B. NEELEY, b. 16 June 1818; m. DAVID NEELEY, JR.. iv.*****ROBERT SAMUEL NEELEY, b. 16 July 1821, Fairfield Co.,Oh.; d. 07 February 1900, Co.; m. (1) JUDIA DAY JONES, 18 May 1848, Schuyler County, Missouri; m. (2) SARAH MARGARET SMITH, 01 August 1858, Schuyler Co., Mo.. v. WILLIAM S. NEELEY, b. 06 July 1822. vi. JOHN NEELEY, b. 24 December 1825. vii. JANE NEELEY, b. 04 January 1827; d. 1859. viii. TIMOTHY GREEN NEELEY, b. 10 January 1834. I would like to share info. Contact me at the address below thanks. Tim Slavin tslavin@socket.net

I am getting two copies of this list server. Could it please be changed so I receive only one copy? Thanx. Sorry I wrote this on the main screen but didn't know how else to do this. Margbond@aol.com

Can someone fill me in a little bit on the Welsh immigration patterns to America? Were they in waves due to pressures at home, or simply random as people felt the need to immigrate. Also, I would be delighted to correspond with anyone who is researching MORGANS in Ohio, particularly in Harrison Co., Fairfield and Hocking Counties, and from PA.. Lynn Scheu

[Engle, Robert, Ticona/DE] I would like to add to the momentum of the ENGLE-discussion too. I'm researching my ENGLE family at the earliest point known so far - David Engle born in Lancaster, Fairfield county, Ohio in 1832.(Aug 11) - He married Anna Guernsey, b1836 in NY, m1856abt > Father - maybe William Engle - I believe a cooper, or barrelmaker > Brother - Eden > Sisters - Harriet & Henrietta > > Sons - Wilber Dwight (WD), b1870 and Ralph, b1879 > > Daughters - Eva, b1866 and Idella(Ida), b1867 > > >WD's son was Earl A. Engle. WD moved his family to Colorado. It is possible David's family came into Lancaster from Pennsylvania, probably the Lancaster area there too, but I'm not certain. This was on Zane's Trace, the settler route into Ohio from Pennsylvania, and it makes sense as many German speaking settlers passed through that route. There is also strong ENGLE link to the River Bretheren, a religious immigrant group from the Palatinate in Germany, and from Switzerland, (also now associated with the Methodist church) which settled in the Lancaster, Pa area. So I'm presuming there is a link to these Engle's who came in from Pennsylvania, but I haven't found it yet. David Engle was a Methodist minister on an itinerant route in Ohio and later in Michigan. If any of you can trace back beyond the early 1800s to the major ENGLE branches, I'd be interested. Thanks Engle@Ticona.de (Frankfurt, Germany)

http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate This service "free" lets you type in what you wish to translate and voila. I know some of you have run across foreign language documents with early Fairfield County families probably German so here is a way to find out what they say. Carol Swinehart cshart@greenapple.com <smaller>List Adminstrator of Fairfield County, Ohio Mailing List</smaller>: OHFAIRFI-L@rootsweb.com <smaller>Stop by the Fairfield County,Ohio Webpage</smaller>: http://www.fairfieldgenealogy.org <smaller>or Fairfield County, Ohio GenWeb page: </smaller>http://www.greenapple.com/~ksmith/que.html My FCO Fam: Swinehart, Homrighouser, Betz, Foltz, Quickel, Anspach, Spohn <smaller>Church Archive links</smaller>: http://www.greenapple.com/~cshart/chlinks.html