Norma, Here is a little bit more. I would look for possible deaths of the children. Their death certs and obits might have the information you want. I would send for Miriam's death cert & obit, too. Ohio Deaths 1958 - 1969 SMITH, FRANK L   Death Date: 27 June 1958 Age: 83   Place of Death:  , Erie County Residence:  , Erie County   Gender: Male Race: White   Marital Status: Married Certificate: 41090   Volume: 15438 Ivan, below, is possibly their son. I would get his death certificate, possibly the mother or a sibling gave the information on his death and it may have the mother's maiden name there. SMITH, IVAN V   Death Date: 16 February 1958 Age: 65   Place of Death: Kenton, Hardin County Residence: Kenton, Hardin County   Gender: Male Race: White   Marital Status: Never Married Certificate: 12035   Volume: 15322 Sharon