This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1VB.2ACE/11430.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Ann, Start with me, then my mother, Marjorie Ann Krueger, her mother, Genevieve E McGookey, her mother, Mary Olive O'Rork and so forth. That's how I fit. I have tried over the years to locate anybody with knowledge of Barney McGookey ( Mary Olive's first husband) and he appeared out of thin air as far as I can tell. Even with soundex I cannot match McGookey to any Irish name I can find. Then I got to Frank Fenton O'Rork and behind him was Mary McGee and Matthew O'Rork. I surmised from the dates that Matthew had died at sea and I figured on a buriel at sea. What I could find also said Ontario (ON) so I assumed they came into Canada. I also have read that during the famine "miscellaneous" persons of Irish descent fled the country and I figure they were part of that and no records were kept. I sure would like to nail them down but I think you're right, it's a needle in a haystack. You would think that we could come up with some clue as to where they came from by ship manifest but I haven't found one yet. If we suppose that Keating came into the country with her and perhaps knew her from home, can we track his arrival here???? By the way, ancestry.com has it wrong. Mary Olive was married to Barney McGookey first and had 10 kids, then when he died she married Arthur Anderson. Ancestry.com shows her married to Anderson McGookey........ Where do the McCartney's fit in this?