Following is a part of the new ROOTSWEB REVIEW. I hope it will answer some of the questions about SPAM. Maggie ------------------------- ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative Weekly News Vol. 1, No. 1, 17 June 1998 Copyright (c) 1998 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative Editors: Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG SPAM OMELETTES by Tim Pierce <twp@rootsweb.com> RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative System Obfuscator and Hack-of-All-Trades In terms of what we worry about day to day, spam is a more serious problem for us than security crackers. Computer capacity is not infinite. Even a fantastically powerful computer system can only process a certain amount of information in a day -- maybe a lot more than you or I would ever want on our desks, but finite nonetheless. When a spammer sends mail to one of our lists, that makes 50 copies that our list server has to distribute to the list subscribers -- or maybe 10 copies, or 1,000, depending on the list. Multiply that by 6,000 (which is approximately the number of lists we host on our mail servers, counting mail-mode and digest lists separately). Those numbers mean that a spammer who sends mail to every list on our systems -- which happens frequently -- is a big problem. Big enough that just sending enough spam to our machines is sufficient to crash them. So spam is actually a show-stopping problem for a big mailing list house like RootsWeb. We have had to contribute a significant chunk of staff and volunteer time to fighting the problem. About a month ago, we blocked almost 800 known spam domains from RootsWeb's list servers, to cut out some of the spam. More effectively, we installed some filters that look for certain spam-like patterns in each incoming message, and discard any message that matches (that is, bounce the message to the listowner). This has reduced the number of successful spam attacks on our systems considerably, which is a bonus both for our listowners and for our harried system administrators. By my estimates, subscribers to our lists see a lot less spam than users of other genealogical list servers. If folks receive spam that was sent to a RootsWeb list, they should forward it to abuse@rootsweb.com so I can figure out how to block any future attacks. I really need to know when spam makes it through our filters. When we get repeatedly hit by the same outfit, too, we can figure out where the spam is really coming from and try to put pressure on the Internet Service Provider. * * * 6/15/98 UPDATE: This was quite a day for the RootsWeb abuse team. famhis@doit.cc, origin@doit.cc, heraldry@doit.cc: This morning we were spammed by an outfit promoting surname histories. All of the posts came from a forged "doit.cc" domain, which I blocked as soon as I got word of what was happening. Because of serious Net lag this morning, however, that didn't happen until well after it had achieved its goal. CVBOX spam: Meanwhile, back at the ranch, this afternoon, a Portuguese spam outfit connected to rootsweb.com and spammed just about every list on our system. Three times each. Over about an hour, they pumped about 4,000 messages and 11MB into our list servers. Thankfully, they're using a well-known spamming software package that was readily caught by our filters. Even as I started to write this message, they started to do it all over again. So we had to take more drastic measures, dropping the Internet routes to their systems and blocking any mail from their (forged) domain name. That should prevent them from even being able to connect to our machines. All RootsWeb members, sponsors, donors, and patrons should congratulate yourselves for this. The funds that you've contributed to improve RootsWeb's systems were directly responsible for our being able to implement spam filters like these. If it weren't for your support, RootsWeb's list servers would be a smoking pile of slag right now. Thanks for helping to keep us running! !^NavFont02F0CDF0007NGHHSE13154 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

"The Laughless" A man walking in a graveyard saw this inscription on a gravestone: "As you are now, so once was I, as I am now thus you must be. So be prepared to follow me." After reading this, the man took out his pen and wrote below; "To follow you, I am not content, 'till I find which way you went. Unknown author !^NavFont02F00FF0006NGHHHG0782 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Hi Everyone, I just wanted to thank all of you for your patience and support. Mom made it through the heart cath with no problem. The doctor is amazed that at 80 years she has no cardiac disease and only a valve that is critically stenosed. She will have to have a heart valve replacement as soon as they can make arrangements but it will probably be three weeks. I will be here in Canton and mom wants to go on short road trips so we will be going out to the courthouses and historical societies near here. (smile)We have made friends there so we meet them for lunch and I do some research while mom visits. It's lots of fun. The two places we will be starting at are Chardon, Geauga County and Ravenna, Portage County. Just send me your requests (please nothing complicated) and mark them so I know that they are for that county. We also may be going to Holmes County as well but first I want to see how she does. Maggie !^NavFont02F02EA0007NGHHIEBBDCC Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

I am forwarding this as I thought it was important. Maggie ------------------------- As far as I know, this list did not get hit by the Bath, ID spam but we sure did get hit by the Portuguese one. The filter program RootsWeb has developed caught it and only notified me as Listowner. Take note of Tim's last paragraph and pat yourselves on the back if you have contributed to RootsWeb. If you haven't, you can find out how at http://www.rootsweb.com. Later...Nancy Your Listowner >X-Message: #1 >Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:48:05 -0700 >From: Tim Pierce <twp@rootsweb.com> >To: listowners-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: SPAM REPORT: Boy, have we been busy. > >This was quite a day for the RootsWeb abuse team. > >famhis@doit.cc, origin@doit.cc, heraldry@doit.cc >================================================ > >This morning, our old friends in Bath, ID called us up and spammed >the bejesus out of our machines with their bogus surname history >scams. All of their posts came from a forged `doit.cc' domain, >which I blocked as soon as I got word of what was >happening... because of serious net lag this morning, however, >that didn't happen until well after they'd achieved their goal. > >Something important to remember: the reason this spam wasn't >refused outright doesn't have anything to do with its genealogical >trappings. The simple reason that it got through to your lists >was that the text and sender of the message didn't match anything >that our spam filter recognized as spam. Now that I've added >their forged domain to our `spamdomains' list, you shouldn't see >anything more from them. > >CVBOX spam >========== > >Meanwhile, back at the ranch... this afternoon, a Portuguese spam >outfit connected to rootsweb.com and spammed just about every list >on our system. Three times each. Over about an hour, they pumped >about 4,000 messages and 11MB into our list servers. Thankfully, >they're using a well-known spamming software package that was >readily caught by our filters, so none of your lists should have >been bothered by this. > >Even as I started to write this message, they started to do it ALL >OVER AGAIN. So we had to take more drastic measures, dropping the >Internet routes to their systems and blocking any mail from their >(forged) domain name. That should prevent them from even being >able to connect to our machines. > >So if I'm a little scarce for a while, you have some idea of why. >Getting copies of 4000 spams in your mailbox tends to slow you >down a little. > >All of the RootsWeb Members, Sponsors and Donors out there should >congratulate yourselves a little for this. The funds that you've >contributed to improve RootsWeb's systems were directly >responsible for our being able to implement spam filters like >these. If it weren't for your support, RootsWeb's list servers >would be a smoking pile of slag right now. Thanks for helping >keep us running! > >Regards, >Tim Pierce >RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative >system obfuscator and hack-of-all-trades > >______________________________ > !^NavFont02F09F50007NGHHPF62B77 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Jim I checked the 1880 Erie Co. OH Census, "Sandusky Then and Now" and the "Erie County Ohio Cemetery Census Before 1909" and found no listings for the name KIECH or KOCH for Kelley's Island. There were (and are) many KOCHs in Sandusky, but not on Kelley's. Sorry I couldn't help. Carol Sandusky, Erie Co., OH

Hi folks. This lady is searching for someone on one of my lists. If you know the person or if the person sees it please respond the Patty at <a href="mailto:peppermint@alltel.net">peppermint@alltel.net</a>. ------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 15-Jun-98 15:22 Subject: Shoults family From: peppermint@alltel.net To: David Zimmerman 73777,25 ------------------------------------------------------------------ A few months ago, I came across someone who wanted to know if there were any relatives with the Shoults name...I believe it was on your site.....The man's name was Joseph R. Schiska who was inquiring....I tried e-mailing him, but at that time I was new with e-mailing, and we have changed our e-mail server since then..... I tried e-mailing him today...and his e-mail address must have changed....The address was jrsch@netwalk.com..... I found out that we come from the same line of Shoults's, and I would like to get a message to him......because we have a Shoults reunion coming up in July and I would like to get some information to him.. My question to you is, do you keep a record of queries.....If so if you have any information that might be new one Joseph R. Schiska, or perhaps I erred in his e-mail address, please e-mail me and let me know...... The Shoults that he was inquiring about had a homestead close to the Girl Scout Camp at Wakatomika.... Sincerely, Patty Leonard E-mail address: peppermint@alltel.net !^NavFont02F04EE0007NGHHKF0DE99 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

There is a reunion planned for July 25 and 26th at Cedar Point Ohio, for members of the Lentz family. I understand there are many parts of this family. This reunion is for the Lentz that married Elizabeth and/or Barbara Marshall. For additional information contact Ford or Peggy Buckner. E-mail at ARCHPEG@AOL.COM or FORDB@AOL.COM. Thank you for your consideration.

Hi Everyone, This is a note to let you all know that my mother is very ill and will most likely have open heart surgery in the next two to three days. I will have my mail but will be very intermittent. Once she is recovering I will probably get those things done that I have not had time to do. Following are the newest updates. (The county pages on rootsweb still have not been updated as I cannot get a stable enough connection to upload them. Maybe next week.) Marcie I have the updates page in the planning stage so maybe next time. --My Favorite Genealogy Links page at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mlinks.html --The Ohio County Courthouse Project is up at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/Courthouses/county_courthouses.html (This is a work in progress.). --The Researcher Page (Here you will find researchers willing to do lookups in books/information that they own.) at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/rsh.html --I have updated the following individual county pages: Wood http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mwood.html To the person that wanted the picture in Dayton, if you send me the info again with directions I have a friend that visits her aunt over there weekly that will get the pics for you. Maggie !^NavFont02F0402000ENGHHHB2NJ6BHKJ665E Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

I was asked to spread the word about this reunion. Please post wherever it might be seen. Thanks! ========== There are lots of Earnharts in Warren County, OH and they are planning an Earnhart Reunion on Sunday, June 14 at 4:00pm. The first one in years! It will be held at the farm of Irene Earnhart Miller. Located on Pekin Road just a couple miles north of Lebanon. For info, phone 513-743-8090 or 513-746-4996. Or you may contact me at this e-mail address. ========== !^NavFont02F01830007NGHHH84CFC9 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Hi All, I received this request on my Maggie_Ohio Mailing list but thought someone over here might be able to help as these folks settled on Kelly's Island. Any replies can go to Jim Jacquet <a href="mailto:digiredu@cco.net">digiredu@cco.net. Thanks. Maggie ------------------------ Hi. A friend who is not on the internet is wondering if anyone is researching her last name, which is KIECH. A variation may be KOCH, with or without the two dots (umlaut) over the o. Her ancestors came from Germany (near the Black Forest) in the mid to late nineteenth century. They settled on Kelly's Island in Ohio. Please answer me directly,and I will pass along the info. Jim Jacquet digiredu@cco.net !^NavFont02F0241000FNGHHG9DNGBEHI423C13 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Hi Everyone! I have updated the following pages: --My main index page at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html --I added a web ring for pages with Ohio Genealogy interests at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/Ring/ohring.html --I added a page with current Ohio Area Codes at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/ohareacodes.html (I am working on the individual pages but it will take me time.) --I added a for sale page that right now only has serial mices at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/Tech/forsale.html (Coming will be drawings on cards (posters, t-shirts, anything else you can think of and we can find) of whatever you want by our daughter and myself. We are trying to generate income so I don't have to go back to work fulltime so please bear with my announcements.) --I have updated the following individual county pages: 1. Lawrence http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mlawrence.html 2. Lucas http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mlucas.html 3. Butler http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mbutler.html 4. Columbiana http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mcolumbiana.html 5. Williams http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mwilliams.html 6. Wood http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mwood.html 7. Wyandot http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mwyandot.html 8. Knox http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mknox.html 9. Sandusky http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/msandusky.html 10. Summit http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/msummit.html 11. Scioto http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mscioto.html 12. Shelby http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mshelby.html --My Favorite Genealogy Links page at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mlinks.html --The Ohio County Courthouse Project is up at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/Courthouses/county_courthouses.html (This is a work in progress.). Maggie !^NavFont02F06290003HMq03AF Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Hi Everyone! I got this in my email and thought maybe someone could help him out. Please reply to the email <a href="mailto:workace@stratos.net">workace@stratos.net</a>. Maggie ------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 7-Jun-98 10:27 Subject: Please provide info on George H. Hullett and current relativ From: "RRS" INTERNET:workace@stratos.net To: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman 73777,25 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Mr. or Ms.: The Cleveland Hulett Ore Unloaders at the C & P Ore Dock on Whiskey Island have been approved for designation as an ASME (American Society of Mechanical Engineers) International Historic Mechanical Engineering Landmark and a ceremony is planned for August. The ceremony requires that a commemorative brochure be published. Please advise us of the information you have on the Hulett Ore Unloaders and George H. Hulett, their inventor. We would like a listing of the information by June 15th if possible so we could consider it for inclusion into the publication. This is a volunteer effort and there is no money allocated for paying for resources, the money raised is strictly for printing costs. We will acknowledge the source of materials we use and will provide a copy of the publication to those whose material we use. For reference, the Steamship William G. Mather ASME Landmark commemorative brochure was produced in 1995 and can be viewed at the Mather Museum. Thanking you in advance for your efforts, Ray Saikus (440) 446-9675 P.O. Box 32700 Cleveland, Ohio 44132-0700 ASME Cleveland Section !^NavFont02F05680007NGHHL6A7997 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Sharon Ages ago when I was researching in Erie Co. Probate records, I found a book of births and deaths for a few years in the 1850's. I don't remember the years. The records don't really start until 1871, but there were some small volumes for some of the miscellaneous years before then. I don't know personally, but heard that Huron County has some birth and death records for Erie Co. people for some years in the 1850s, so try there. Erie Co. was origianlly part of Huron County. Even though we were established in 1838, it took several years (I guess) for the administration of records to be set up. That is why Huron County should always be checked out before giving up. We all have to face up to the fact that early records were scanty if at all, but check out all possibilities. All it takes is an inquiry. Carol

Carol A. Steele wrote: > > Sharon > Ages ago when I was researching in Erie Co. Probate records, I > found a book of births and deaths for a few years in the 1850's. I don't > remember the years. The records don't really start until 1871, but there > were some small volumes for some of the miscellaneous years before then. > I don't know personally, but heard that Huron County has some birth and > death records for Erie Co. people for some years in the 1850s, so try > there. Erie Co. was origianlly part of Huron County. Even though we > were established in 1838, it took several years (I guess) for the > administration of records to be set up. That is why Huron County should > always be checked out before giving up. > We all have to face up to the fact that early records were scanty > if at all, but check out all possibilities. All it takes is an inquiry. > Carol Carol; Thanks for the post, It is helpful to get such a great response from those of you who help put some of us on the right track. Sharon Scofield

Dave > I want to obtain the following: > Birth Certificate for William E. SLOAN (Gr-Grandfather) b. 1855 > Milan, Erie Co., OH.Births in Erie Co. in 1855 are sketchy at best - try Erie Co. Probate Court, 323 Columbus Ave., Sandusky OH 44870, and then try Huron Co. Probate Court, 2 E. Main St., Norwalk OH 44857. > > Marriage License for William SLOAN and Mary WILLIAMS date unknownSame as above. > > Birth Certificate for William SLOAN and Mary WILLIAMS (ca. 1836)Try Huron Co. Probate Court (Erie Co not formed until 1838). > > Death Certificate for William SLOAN and Mary WILLIAMS (dates unk.)Try both counties. Good Luck Carol A. Steele Sandusky, Erie Co., OH

Carol; Thanks for the Boice census info. And a Question I have; You said to check for births for Erie Co. At Erie Co. courthouse, and then try Huron. I didn't know they might have some Erie Co records there. ?? In Huron, As usual I don't know all the right places to look. Most of my Boice and Fowler family were in Erie and Sandusky Co's and I have't had too much luck finding the records I need. Thanks Sharon Scofield

Dave, Someone on the list should be able to provide that info but you can't get birth certs before 1867. The other info is at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/merie.html. You need the probate court. Maggie !^NavFont02F00AE0007NGHHGAFD436 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

I want to obtain the following: Birth Certificate for William E. SLOAN (Gr-Grandfather) b. 1855 Milan, Erie Co., OH. Marriage License for William SLOAN and Mary WILLIAMS date unknown Birth Certificate for William SLOAN and Mary WILLIAMS (ca. 1836) Death Certificate for William SLOAN and Mary WILLIAMS (dates unk.) Can someone please tell me where to write (or call) for the above? Also, what copies will cost. TIA for any help/information, Dave Sloan Colorado Springs, Co.

TRACING MY FAMILY TREE Author unknown Copied from The Genie, published by ARK-LA-TEX genealogical Association April 1977 I started out calmly tracing my tree To find, if I could, the making of me. And all that I had was a great grandfather's name Not knowing his wife or from which way he came. I chased him across a long line of states And came up with pages and pages of dates. When all put together it made me forlorn. I'd proven poor great grandpa had never been born. One day I was sure the truth I had found Determined to turn this whole thing upside down I looked up the records of one of Uncle John But found the old man to be younger than son. Then when my hopes were fast growing dim I came across records that must have been him. The facts I collected then made me quite sad Dear old great grandfather was never a dad! I think maybe someone is pulling my leg. I'm not at all sure I wasn't hatched from an egg. After hundreds of dollars I've spent on my tree I can't help but wonder if I'm really me! ==== GenHumor Mailing List ==== !^NavFont02F03490007NGHHJ4A2F81 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

David, Sharon, Jack, and all other PARKER researchers As I was proofreading my Index for the 1880 Erie Co., OH Census, I found the following PARKERS. Since there are so many of you PARKER researchers out there, I thought I would send all of them in one msg: PARKER: Eliha B. (sic), ERMA, page 82C Jackson, " , 80C John, " , 80C Harry, ERW2, 243C Joseph, " , 222C George, ERPE, 143B Jas. D.., " , 143b William, Jr., ERFL, 26B " , Sr., " , 26B Alexander, ERFL, 27C George C., ERFL, 27D Alice, ERMI, 109B Charles, ERMI, 105B Frederick, ERGR, 41C George N., ERGR, 36B James D., ERGR, 38A Jesse A., ERGR, 37C Van, ERGR, 37C Hope this helps some of you! Carol