------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 20-Nov-98 21:28 Subject: Query for Erie Co., Ohio ------------------------------------------------------------------ NAME: Paula Baillie EMAIL: handemom1@aol.com DATE:1998-11-20 URL: QRYTEXT: Researching Valentine HEIM, died in Sandusky, Ohio in Erie Co. on Saturday, March 18, 1922. Also researching Walter C. BAILLIE and Charles Louis BAILLIE. Charles died July 27, 1970 in Sandusky, Erie Co., Ohio. !^NavFont02F01B70007NGHHHB914B2

------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 20-Nov-98 18:49 Subject: Erie County Surname Registration ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tiffany & Michael mtgedavis@earthlink.net DATE: 11/20/98 EMICK, WOLF, MURSCHEL. mtgedavis@earthlink.net,Tiffany Davis. I am searching for William Edward Emick who was born July 24, 1871. I have been told it was in Sandusky. Please help. His wife was Margaret Christine Murschel. !^NavFont02F01BC0007NGHHHBE22CD

I had an uncle Edwin SCHWAB who had been married to an Alma HEIM/HEYM at Sandusky around 1915. However I am unable to take her ancestry back very far, I think her father was an August HEIM. Would she tie into your HEIM line? Glenn M. Vincent San Antonio, TX

------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 20-Nov-98 3:54 Subject: SCHOOLMARMS OF THE FRONTIER ------------------------------------------------------------------ I found this information some time ago and I don't remember where. Shame on me. I thought this might be interesting reading to some. Norma J. Miller SCHOOLMARMS ON THE FRONTIER GO WEST YOUNG MAN-was also heeded by a virtually unnoticed group of women. Nearly 600 single young women from Northern New England and upper New York State, sponsored by the National Board of Popular Education, participated in the Westward Migration in the decade following 1846. It is estimated that probably close to a thousand single women teachers journeyed from the East to teach in the West and South before the Civil War. EVEN earlier in the 1830s, 88 teachers from Zipah Grant's Female Seminary in Ipswich, Mass. answered the call to start schools in the West and South. Grant established an association in 1835 to lend money to teachers who wish to train at Ipswich for teaching positions in the West. Her plan, combining specific training and financial aid with placement in the West, is said to have been a model for the National Board's program a decade later. IT is not unusual for a genealogist to discover an ancestor who was a teacher "out west." Then out west may have been Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana or Missouri in the early 19th century. Although the women sent by the National Board pledged to teach for only two years in the West, a search revealing the subsequent lives on nearly 40 percent of the teachers shows that 2/3 rds. of them made a permanent transition from East to West. A majority of them made homes in growing towns from Indiana west to the border of Nebraska Territory, and a few became pioneer settlers of Oregon and California. NEARLY 80 percent of the women teachers who have been traced married and became pioneer settlers. Those who remained single either continued to teach or worked in the developing social-service professions. Several of the pioneer teachers responded to the call to teach the newly freed men, women, and children in the South in the 1860s. THE picture painted of the schoolmarm from the East-moral, self-sacrificing, discreet, dedicated to the welfare of children, capable of bringing out the best in men and unconcerned with personal goals or needs-is, of course, a stereotype. Letters, reminiscences and a diary of women teachers who traveled to teach on the western frontiers before the Civil War are extant, and these documents tell remarkable stories. Manuscripts pertaining to nearly 200 such women survive and are the basis of an engaging book called "WOMEN TEACHERS ON THE FRONTIER," by Polly Welts Kaufman. There are pictures of the teachers, and maps and pictures of the old schoolhouses. There is also a list of women, when and where born, places they taught, names of their husbands and when and where they died. ==== Maggie_Ohio Mailing List ==== !^NavFont02F09E30007NGHHPE58ADC

------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 19-Nov-98 23:56 Subject: Portland Twp. From: 76wc 76wc@accnorwalk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Portland Twp." isn't used much any more, but if you look on the older maps, before Sandusky City became so large, you will see the boundary between Portland Twp. and Perkins Twp. !^NavFont02F016C0007NGHHH6E82F1

76wc wrote: > Hi All! > Here is a list of towns that I am working up for the Erie Co. Archives. > If anyone sees any errors or omissions, please let me know. > tedohio@yahoo.com > > ERIE COUNTY, OHIO, TOWNS and their locations. > note: many of these towns are now > no more than just "crossroads". > > Abbotts Bridge, [unk. Twp.] > Anderson [a.k.a.Anderson Acres], Huron Twp. > Ashmont, Vermilion Twp. > Avery [a.k.a.Fort Avery], Milan Twp. > Axtel, Vermilion Twp. > Bay View, Margaretta Twp. > Beatty [see Milan ] > Berlin, [between Ceylon and B.Hts.], Berlin Twp. > Berlin Heights[a.k.a.Eldridge], Berlin Twp. > Berlinville, Berlin Twp. > Beulah Beach, Vermilion Twp. > Birmingham, Florence Twp. > Bloomingville, Oxford Twp. > Bluebird Beach, Vermilion Twp. > Bogart, Perkins Twp. > Castalia, Margaretta Twp. > Cedar Point, Portland Twp. > Ceylon, Berlin Twp. > Ceylon Junction, Berlin Twp. > Chaska Beach, Huron Twp. > Cold Creek, Margaretta Twp. > Crystal Rock Park, Margaretta Twp. > Enterprise, Oxford Twp. > Florence [a.k.a. Jessup, Flo.Corners], Florence Twp. > Fort Stephenson [see Sandusky] > Four Corners [see N.Monroeville] > Friese[a.k.a. Fries' Landing], Milan Twp. > Fort Avery/Camp Avery [see Avery] > Heidelberg Beach, Vermilion Twp. > Higbee, [unkn. Twp.] > Huron, Huron Twp. > Huronia Beach, Huron Twp. > Huron Junction [see Kimball] > Jessup [see Florence Corners] > Joppa, Florence Twp. > Kelly Town, Kelleys Island > Kimball [a.k.a Huron Junction], Oxford Twp. > Margaretta [see Castalia] > Milan[a.k.a Beatty], Milan Twp. > Mitiwanga, Vermilion Twp. > New Salem, Milan Twp.? > N.Monroeville[partly in Huron Co.], Oxford Twp. > Ogontz, Berlin Twp. > Parkertown, Groton Twp. > Pequotting, Milan Twp.? > Perkins, Perkins Twp. > Prout, Oxford Twp. > Quarry Siding, [unkn.Twp.] > Ruggles Beach, Vermilion Twp. > Sand Hill, Groton/Marg. Twp. > Sandusky [a.k.a. Sandusky City], Portland Twp. > Shinrock, Berlin Twp. > State Soldiers Home, Perkins Twp. > Terryville, Florence Twp. > Venice, Margaretta Twp. > Vermilion[a.k.a.Vermillion], Vermilion Twp. > Weyers, Margaretta Twp. > Wilmer, Perkins Twp. > > ==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== > Feel free to share your research tips, get help from others and discuss ideas on research and resources for Erie County. Hi Hey I thought that Cedar Point and Sandusky were perkins township ???? Lisa

Tinda I checked my sources here at home: "Sandusky Then & Now" index, 1880 Erie Co. OH Census index, 1896 Erie County Directory, etc. and all I found was: 1880 Erie County OH Census BOWLS, Henri W., ERW5 328B -- That means Erie County, Ward 5 in Sandusky City, page 328B. This looks promising, but you will need to check page 328 of the Erie Co. Census to see. Carol

Maggie I like all three of the ideas! Carol

Tinda According to the "Cemetery Census of Erie County, Ohio Before 1909": West End Cemetery, Berlin Twp.: BOWLS, Thomas J. d. March 10, 1849, age 59 years. There are no other BOWLES/BOWLS in Berlin Township cemeteries before 1909. As far as the Censuses go, many people even today, avoid the Census. They all have their reasons, however, I would be suspicious of him being missed in 2 consecutive ones! Carol

Erie County was part of Huron County until 1838 so you would want to look in Huron County for Mary Matilda WAGGONER HARRIS' birth record and also for her marriage record. Neither would be in the Erie County records. Carol

Hi All! Here is a list of towns that I am working up for the Erie Co. Archives. If anyone sees any errors or omissions, please let me know. tedohio@yahoo.com ERIE COUNTY, OHIO, TOWNS and their locations. note: many of these towns are now no more than just "crossroads". Abbotts Bridge, [unk. Twp.] Anderson [a.k.a.Anderson Acres], Huron Twp. Ashmont, Vermilion Twp. Avery [a.k.a.Fort Avery], Milan Twp. Axtel, Vermilion Twp. Bay View, Margaretta Twp. Beatty [see Milan ] Berlin, [between Ceylon and B.Hts.], Berlin Twp. Berlin Heights[a.k.a.Eldridge], Berlin Twp. Berlinville, Berlin Twp. Beulah Beach, Vermilion Twp. Birmingham, Florence Twp. Bloomingville, Oxford Twp. Bluebird Beach, Vermilion Twp. Bogart, Perkins Twp. Castalia, Margaretta Twp. Cedar Point, Portland Twp. Ceylon, Berlin Twp. Ceylon Junction, Berlin Twp. Chaska Beach, Huron Twp. Cold Creek, Margaretta Twp. Crystal Rock Park, Margaretta Twp. Enterprise, Oxford Twp. Florence [a.k.a. Jessup, Flo.Corners], Florence Twp. Fort Stephenson [see Sandusky] Four Corners [see N.Monroeville] Friese[a.k.a. Fries' Landing], Milan Twp. Fort Avery/Camp Avery [see Avery] Heidelberg Beach, Vermilion Twp. Higbee, [unkn. Twp.] Huron, Huron Twp. Huronia Beach, Huron Twp. Huron Junction [see Kimball] Jessup [see Florence Corners] Joppa, Florence Twp. Kelly Town, Kelleys Island Kimball [a.k.a Huron Junction], Oxford Twp. Margaretta [see Castalia] Milan[a.k.a Beatty], Milan Twp. Mitiwanga, Vermilion Twp. New Salem, Milan Twp.? N.Monroeville[partly in Huron Co.], Oxford Twp. Ogontz, Berlin Twp. Parkertown, Groton Twp. Pequotting, Milan Twp.? Perkins, Perkins Twp. Prout, Oxford Twp. Quarry Siding, [unkn.Twp.] Ruggles Beach, Vermilion Twp. Sand Hill, Groton/Marg. Twp. Sandusky [a.k.a. Sandusky City], Portland Twp. Shinrock, Berlin Twp. State Soldiers Home, Perkins Twp. Terryville, Florence Twp. Venice, Margaretta Twp. Vermilion[a.k.a.Vermillion], Vermilion Twp. Weyers, Margaretta Twp. Wilmer, Perkins Twp.

------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 17-Nov-98 20:56 Subject: Re: WAGGONER Family of Erie County c1820's ------------------------------------------------------------------ swhite@redriverok.com DATE: 11/17/98 Surnames: WAGGONER Erie County: I have just found information indicating that my Great-Great-Great = Grandmother, Mary Matilda WAGGONER Harris was born Monday, November 1, = 1819 in Sandusky, Erie County, Ohio. Her siblings include: Joseph = Waggoner, Calvin Waggoner, Malancthon Waggoner and Doane Waggoner. = Three of her brothers supposedly became doctors. I do not have the = names of her parents, but would like to find out more if possible. I believe Mary Matilda Waggoner may have married in Erie County. She = married Thomas Hazen Harris July 24, 1837. They later lived in Canada, = then Iowa. Any information will be appreciated. swhite@redriverok.com !^NavFont02F03220006NGHHJk281A

Can't believe that I did this, but I put the wrong year in my previous msg on Erie County Records, so I am resending it. It should be 1908 not 1909! So, so sorry! In Erie County you can get: Birth & Death Certificates before 20 DEC 1908: Certified $7.00, Uncertified Free Erie County Probate Court 323 Columbus Ave Sandusky OH 44870 Birth & Death Certificates after 20 DEC 1908: Certified $7.00, Uncertified $2.00 Erie County Heath Dept. Bureau of Vital Statics 420 Superior St Sandusky OH 44870 ALL Marriage Certificates: Certified $2.00, Uncertified Free Erie County Probate Court 323 Columbus Ave Sandusky OH 44870 It is always a good idea to send a SASE with your request. Also give as much pertinent info as possible. Carol A. Steele Sandusky, Erie Co., OH

>Hello, I am truly grateful for the wonderfully instructive replies I >received concerning my T.J.Bowles missing from the 1830 & 1840 >Census'. I had run >out of ideas by the time I wrote you all. There is truly so much to >learn and I >have enjoyed the experience immensely. Thank you all for your >efforts. Lots of >hugs, Tinda >

thanks for all the help!!!!!!!!!!!! you had some great imfo........... gary -----Original Message----- From: Carol A. Steele <Steele@lrbcg.com> To: OHERIE-L@rootsweb.com <OHERIE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 2:34 PM Subject: Correction >Can't believe that I did this, but I put the wrong year in my previous >msg on Erie County Records, so I am resending it. It should be 1908 not >1909! So, so sorry! > >In Erie County you can get: >Birth & Death Certificates before 20 DEC 1908: >Certified $7.00, Uncertified Free > Erie County Probate Court > 323 Columbus Ave > Sandusky OH 44870 > >Birth & Death Certificates after 20 DEC 1908: >Certified $7.00, Uncertified $2.00 > Erie County Heath Dept. > Bureau of Vital Statics > 420 Superior St > Sandusky OH 44870 > >ALL Marriage Certificates: >Certified $2.00, Uncertified Free > Erie County Probate Court > 323 Columbus Ave > Sandusky OH 44870 > >It is always a good idea to send a SASE with your request. Also give as >much pertinent info as possible. >Carol A. Steele >Sandusky, Erie Co., OH > > >==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== >This list is designed to provide a discussion forum for anyone who has an interest in Erie County Ohio. > > > > > >

I finally did some homework and found out that in Erie County you can get: Birth & Death Certificates before 20 DEC 1909: Certified $7.00, Uncertified Free Erie County Probate Court 323 Columbus Ave Sandusky OH 44870 Birth & Death Certificates after 20 DEC 1909: Certified $7.00, Uncertified $2.00 Erie County Heath Dept. Bureau of Vital Statics 420 Superior St Sandusky OH 44870 ALL Marriage Certificates: Certified $2.00, Uncertified Free Erie County Probate Court 323 Columbus Ave Sandusky OH 44870 It is always a good idea to send a SASE with your request. Also give as much pertinent info as possible. Carol A. Steele Sandusky, Erie Co., OH

Carol A. Steele wrote: > I finally did some homework and found out that in Erie County you > can get: > Birth & Death Certificates before 20 DEC 1909: > Certified $7.00, Uncertified Free > Erie County Probate Court > 323 Columbus Ave > Sandusky OH 44870 > > Birth & Death Certificates after 20 DEC 1909: > Certified $7.00, Uncertified $2.00 > Erie County Heath Dept. > Bureau of Vital Statics > 420 Superior St > Sandusky OH 44870 > > ALL Marriage Certificates: > Certified $2.00, Uncertified Free > Erie County Probate Court > 323 Columbus Ave > Sandusky OH 44870 > > It is always a good idea to send a SASE with your request. Also give as > much pertinent info as possible. > Carol A. Steele > Sandusky, Erie Co., OH > > ==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== > Feel free to share your research tips, get help from others and discuss ideas on research and resources for Erie County. Hi Carol Thanks for all of the help in the past. I wondered if you could give me any ideas. I sent for death certs for George and Magdalena Arheit a while back. I just recieved notice that they can't find them. They both died in Erie Co Sandusky Ohio. he died in 12-24-1893 and she died in 4-17/or 19 1907 I have obits from Liz also. I did send for them in the right place Help !!!! Lisa alpoect@flash.net

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Tinda, Not knowing where you live but have you written to the library at Berlin Hts. Ohio. I have been there a couple of summers ago when I was researching my lines from Berlin Hts . I visited the library, the historian (forgetting his name right now..sorry) and have even been in this cemetery. It is quite small..I have relatives burried there too.. Hope this helps some....Susan Tinda Marchant wrote: > Hi, This may sound like the worlds dumbest question, but I need to be > sure that I have not overlooked something before I go off into other > areas (geographic) of > research. > FACT: It has been said that my Thomas J. BOWLES moved to Huron Co., > Ohio in and about 1820, coming in from New York. Both of his children > were > reputed to have been born there, 1821 & 1822. Thomas is reputed to > have died > in 1849 in Huron Co., Ohio. The only verification I have is a > cemetery record of > him, having been buried in Berlin Heights Old Cemetery, Erie, Ohio. > His son (#2 child) Thomas Jefferson Bowles shows up on the 1850 Berlin > Twp., > Erie, Ohio Census. > > PROBLEM: I have gone over the 1830 and 1840 Census' for Huron Co., > Ohio three times and cannot find him (T.J.Bowles Sr.)anywhere. No I > have not checked the 1820 Census...didn't see any point after not > finding him on the other two. > > QUESTION: Can he have been in that county and missed being counted on > two seperate consecutive Census'? Is this possible and if so isthere > an explanation for this? > I would appreciate any suggestions. Thank you, Regards, Tinda > > ==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== > Feel free to share your research tips, get help from others and discuss ideas on research and resources for Erie County.

I want to thank everyone for the fast response!!! Looking at this death certificate it stateshis residence was R F D #1 Sandusky Ohio and under it says County Home. Does that mean he was in some sort of home or is this just an address? Would someone know the name of this place? I am sorry if these are silly questions but the layout of this certificate is new to me. Lori MANN Connection Mailing List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/mann Irolee's Genealogy Place http://www.genweb.net/~irolee/ **Free Surname Posting** Paper Trails http://www.genweb.net/~irolee/paper