------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 24-Dec-98 17:22 Subject: Erie County Help! From: LaurieJKen@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Maggie~ Just spent some time in the Erie County USGenWeb page and loved it! I have one question, hopefully you can help me with it? My great-grandmother died in a car accident around Vermilion, OH and I am trying to find out what newspaper was in operation in 1942 so that I can order the microfilm and search for the article. I've already checked the Ohio Historical Society and they don't have the Vermilion newspaper for the year 1942. I've tried to search for the name and address of the newspaper online, but that was impossible. Any help would be appreciated! Laurie Bellingham, WA ----------------------- Laurie, I would guess that they would have them at Bowling Green State Archives but I am forwarding this to the Erie County list as I am sure they can help you out. Maggie !^NavFont02F035D0007NGHHJ5E88EE

This one was too good to not share with everyone. Maggie ------------------------------------------------------------------ In Salt Lake City, Utah everyone is into researching their family tree. Even the big department stores sell genealogy supplies. A newcomer to Salt Lake City, and a non-researcher, got a job as a clerk at one of the big department stores. She received her introduction to genealogy one day when a customer came into the store and asked " Where do I find the Family Group Sheets?" The new clerk, with a shocked look on her face, answered, " Family Group Sheets? All we carry are the King, Queen, double and twin size sheets." Source unknown ==== GenHumor Mailing List ==== !^NavFont02F02450007NGHHI4615BC

Ruth, You can send it to the OH-FOOTSTEPS (I just sent a separate message) or just submit it to me and I will get it to the right place. Whatever is easiest for you. Maggie !^NavFont02F008A0007NGHHG8B0492

Hi Everyone, From all the confusion I have caused I am going to put up my OH-FOOTSTEPS thing again. If you want to subscribe, go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/oh/ohfootsteps.html for that information. I will also include it here for those of you that can't get to the internet. This is a separate list and I think it might decrease confusion on the other lists if those of you that are interested can subscribe. This list is submitted info (not just what I post) of wills, obits, death certs, marriages, biographies, letters, etc. This information is posted in the archives in digest mode with TOC's (at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/oh/oh-footsteps/1998.htm) and it can be searched as well. I really think that for the sake of not overloading the lists that it needs to go there. It is one more list but those that are uninterested would not have to sift through the posts to see it. I hope this explains it a little be better. Eventually in my spare time I will be pulling this information from the list and posting it to the appropriate county in the archives. Please go through your GEDCOM's and papers and dig out those pieces of history that are so interesting to most of us. Following is the subscription information. Oh and if after reading all this the majority still want it posted to the lists, I will do so. How to Subscribe You can join in either mail mode or digest mode. To Subscribe you need to send an Email with either the word SUBSCRIBE as the only word in the body of the message, and leave subject line of the message blank. Do not put anything else, including your name, and if you have a signature file, please turn it off. Subscribe to the mail mode list here! OH-FOOTSTEPS-L-request@rootsweb.com Subscribe to the digest mode list here! OH-FOOTSTEPS-D-request@rootsweb.com Maggie !^NavFont02F05E1001ENGHHG6BNGA0HHFDNI~HK4ENLDCHLE2B8C3

Thanks, I will try to send a few after Christmas... They are fascinating...and guess I just couldn't sell them even tho they were very valuable...so I gave them away!!! Ruth

Maggie I vote that you include the OH-FOOTSTEPS material on the Erie County Mail List only if it has to do with Erie County. Carol

Hi Maggie, Where do I go to put the letter or letters in the Archive ..is it on the list? Is there a special address? Thanks for the advice. Ruth

>>I am interested in the archival info. I have a question you may be able to help me with....I posted part of an old letter from a collection I have that were written to my g. grandmother in Milan, OH. My problem comes with the fact that I donated the originals to Bowling Green s. univ. archives...and have the rights to the letters for 100 yrs. Not sure putting a complete letter (that someone could then use in some way ) would not be violating my own rights or those of the University. Do you have any suggestions.? It is a shame not to share them with other researchers...<< Ruth, When you put information into the archives you retain the copyright to that information. The archives are strictly to share your letters and other memorabilia with other researchers. The archives are a way to consolidate the info so folks don't have to search all over the place to find it. So my answer is you can safely put a copy of the letter into the archives just put on what you told us above about donating them to BGSU and such. Maggie !^NavFont02F03470008NHD8HJ48BAF2

Hi Everyone, Do you all want me to post the archival material that I send to the OH-FOOTSTEPS mailing list or not? I am just trying to get a hand on what folks want on the lists. Maggie !^NavFont02F00940007NGHHG95F6A1

Hi, I am interested in the archival info. I have a question you may be able to help me with....I posted part of an old letter from a collection I have that were written to my g. grandmother in Milan, OH. My problem comes with the fact that I donated the originals to Bowling Green s. univ. archives...and have the rights to the letters for 100 yrs. Not sure putting a complete letter (that someone could then use in some way ) would not be violating my own rights or those of the University. Do you have any suggestions.? It is a shame not to share them with other researchers... Ruth C. rcolburn@mail.cvn.net

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------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 22-Dec-98 0:18 Subject: ERIE QUERY ------------------------------------------------------------------ Shirley Kerns Kernssaol.com DATE: 12/20/98 FREUND, FRIEND, FEY, FAY: My name is Shirley Kerns - email: kernssaol.com I am looking for information regarding great-grandfather Charles Friend. He came from Baden, Baden, Germany in 1852 and ended up in Sandusky, Ohio. He met and married Josephine Fey/Fay (she was from Switzerland). They left in 1859 for St. Paul, Minnesota. thank you !^NavFont02F01FB0007NGHHHFDF8F0

------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 22-Dec-98 0:18 Subject: Marriage of Charles Freund (Friend) and Josephine Fey (Fay) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Shirley Kerns kernssaol.com DATE: 12/20/98 Surnames: FREUND(FRIEND)-FEY(FAY) Looking for documentation of the marriage of my g-grandfather and g- grandmother - Charles Freund(Friend) to Josephine Fey(Fay) in 1852 in Erie County. Thank you Shirley Kerns email: kernssaol.com !^NavFont02F01D00007NGHHHD2885F

------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 21-Dec-98 23:43 Subject: Erie County OHIO ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jennifer Williams mzngraceoone.net DATE: 12/19/98 Hi! I have some information on Vermilion history proper since I usd to be the librarian/archivist for Great Lakes Historical Society. My successor is Carla LaVigne (pronounced LaVeen). They have mostly ship histories, not a lot of people files. A lot of folks used to come in asking for crew lists and such (everyone's grandfather was a Lakes captain!) but there's more information onthe shipping companies and ships themsevles. They do have a HUGE book from the Pittsburgh Steamship Company from the turn of the century that has crew recommendations and names from various captains. It's quite interesting. ANYWAY, I am willing to share any information on Vermilion that I have. It's in a huge research box since I'm working on a booklet about Vermilion which I hope to have done in another year. So I can't exactly tell you what I have - I even have a copy of one of the original plats from the 1830's. It ended up with the Erie County recorder after passing through many hands from the Huron COunty courthouse fire back in the 1860's. So I just have stuff on Vermilion. :) And I'll be getting more in June and July when I'm up there for a research trip. If this is helpful to your visitors, then please post me as a "look-up person". Thanks. Cheers! Jennifer L. Williams To be conscious that you are ignorant is a great step to knowledge. -Benjamin Disraeli !^NavFont02F054B0007NGHHL4D5C64

Hi Everyone! Well, due to circumstances beyond my control, I have not been able to access my computer since Saturday, approximately noon est. Dave bought my Christmas present (a pentium processor for my main computer board but the old system that he had built for me went tilt) and now it is installed. I have the mail in another program and will start with the old but I get around 800 messages a day so I am backlogged. He also added Windows 98 so I have new things to learn. Please bear with me. Maggie !^NavFont02F019B0007NGHHH9C302E

Thank you so much for your research! This information, along with what Liz Proudfoot sent really covers alot of ground that has been missing.

I am interested in any information on the following families from Erie County. Hollister's,Quayle's,Hoak's,Milliman's,Butler's,Holbrook's & Switzer's. Thank You Mary

>From Death Cert #22392 [NOTE: this was the only Johannsen I found that died 1928 in Erie County] Mrs. Botilda Johannsen Female White Widow of Peter C. Johannsen DOB - July 3, 1847 Engne., Schlessurg Holstein (difficult to read) Father - Martin Balnisen born Germany Mother - Not Known born Germany Informant - John Johannsen of Sandusky, Ohio DOD - Apr 24, 1928 in Sandusky, Erie County, Ohio (1326 Carr St.) Cause - Chronic Heart Disease Burial at Oakland Cemetery Undertaker - Fred Frey Jr. of Sandusky !^NavFont02F01A20007NGHHHA321AF

Hi Everyone, This is my last message for the day (It's still Friday until I go to bed). I updated the following pages: 1. My main page at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html 2. My What County is that town in? at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/Towns/towns.htm 3. My What County is that township in? http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/Towns/townships1.htm 4. My Early Migration Page at http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/pioneer.html Maggie !^NavFont02F01860026NGHHG6FNG9BHGB8NGE8HHNNH3CHH54NH81HH879003

On the State Line Road, where the Union County survey shows the Indian Road, an old pair of foundation sites were remembered, again on an angle to the world, in back of the present barnlot. Just west of this, on the back of the Hartman farm, is an old crossing over Little Four Mile Creek, still used to get to the fields east of the creek. This was originally the Christian Witter Farm and the Witter cemetary is on the bank of the Four Mile. Mrs. Hartman is a Witter. The Indian Road continued north-west and crossed first the Nine Mile Road then IN 44 south and west of the corner. It continued more northward till it crossed Hannas Creek a little south of the Hanna's Creek Church. Then turned nearly due west across Union County. South-west of Clifton it angled northward to the Buffalo Ford. The road then seems to have angled north-west, to the old Universalist town of Philomet, and on toward Hagarstown, IN. Just north of the Nettle Creek Church at Hagerstown, is the old Stout Farm. In the early years of this century, Indians walked between the house and barn of that farm, on what they claimed was their old pathway. The scout-camp at Muncie, Ind. (old Muncytown) tells Indian lore about the old Indian Path to Richmond. The road actually passed south and west of Richmond. From Hagerstown, the Indian Road would have followed on or close to the Buck Creek Road, to Mt. Pleasant onto US 35, south of Muncie. This would account for the Dunker settlement along it called the Buck Creek Church. The winding and twisting of this old country road could be the original winding and twisting of the Indian path as it wove along the higher ground around the giant forest trees, swamps and steep gullys. The early migrants used an extension of this road from Muncie IN going northwest. One route went westward, to the Wildcat Creek which flowed into the Wabash River at Lafayette IN. Most of the Brethren settlers stopped along it, few going farther than Flora IN. The other went more northerly, through Kokomo and Peru IN. This triangle was a major settlement area in western Indiana during the early 1830s for the Four Mile families and their kin and neighbors in Preble and Montgomery Counties OH. ------------ Early settlers also used the Wayne Trace (General Anthony Wayne's army road) -north to Fort Wayne IN. Elder Jacob Miller (lived on the west side of the Great Miami River, at Dayton -c1806) would come visit his children on the Four Mile. This is still used -US 35 going STRAIT west from Dayton to Eaton OH, and OH122 continueing strait west to Boston IN -the trace wound southward to Connersville IN -trading post of the half-breed Delware/American -John Conner (family survived the massacre at Schoenbrunn Village) Merle C Rummel Church Historian