Hi Marilyn, I see in the listings for Huron Township Cemeteries, there is an Elizabeth Rosekelly Harris. Could she be your George's wife? George W. and Elizabeth are both buried in Scott Cemetery in Milan Township. Just a thought. Shelly Clipson-Shock Powhatan, Virginia In a message dated 4/16/03 8:06:21 PM, [email protected] writes: >I caught an earlier mention of a HARRIS family and thought I'd throw out >my questions. > > > >I have Jennie L HORNER b. 1862, Milan, Erie Co, OH, dau. of Hazen HORNER, >Jr. and Adaline TRUMBULL. Jennie m. Charles E. HARRIS b. Oct 1861, OH (1900 >census). > > > >I also have Jennie's 1st cousin, Emma Jane HORNER who m/1 George W. Harris, >son of an English born father. This George W. was b. ca 1836, Pittsburg, >PA (death record) and m/1 Elizabeth Unknown. George and Elizabeth had ch. >Charles b. c1862, Howard b. c1868, Jay b. c1870, Cora b. c1873 and George >b.c1875. > >George and Emma had ch: Hope Olivia b. 1884, Lucius Horner Harris b. 1886, >Lynn Asa b. 1887, Gordie Ruth b. 1890, Lucy Fano b. 1893 and Ralph Ted >(Ned) b. 1896. George W. then died in Huron Twp, Erie Co, July 1902. > > > >My question: Is the Charles E. HARRIS who m. Jennie HORNER the stepson >of Emma HORNER who m. George W. HARRIS? > > > >I'd love to connect with others researching these families in Erie, Huron, >Lucas counties. > > > >Marilyn in MI > > ============================================================================ Researching: Clipson, Gaunt (Gant), Hendrickson, Jarrett, Mason, Miteff, Schoonmaker, Siehl, Stickreth, Towne, Vladiff, Yaple (Jappel, Yeaple) Whoever said "Seek and ye shall find" was not a genealogist.

Dear Anna, I found him on the 1880 Milan Township census index. It only lists heads of households. Page 111B, family number 150. He is listed with a Jacob Kramer and Clarissa Shupe. Here is a little blurb from Hewson Peeke's 1916 History of Erie County, page 94: "Amont the first and last of the ship builders was Valentine Fries, a self-made man, who came to Milan about the year 1849 and began the grocery business in a small way. Careful attention to business and steady, hard work, together with the strictest integrity, gave Mr. Fries the necessary means to enlarge his business, and to invest a limited amount of money in vessel property. The time was opportune, and he soon increased his marine investments. In the '70s and '80s he built, at Fries' Landing (formerly called Wards and Abbotts), several of the largest and finest sailing vessels on the lakes, including the Marion Page, the Golden Age and others. He also built the steam barge Charles Foster. As a trustee of the township he was very active in bringing about the graveling of the flats north of Milan, an improvement that has been a very great benefit to farmers on that side of the town because the roads prior to this were next to impassable for several weeks every spring and fall." This may also be of interest. I have a 1940 Erie County Rural Directory. There is a Valentine A. Fries listed. He lived in Huron Township, but had land in Berlin Twp. He held 100 acres valued at $9,480. Hope this helps a little. Shelly Clipson-Shock Powhatan, Virginia In a message dated 2/10/03 9:42:56 AM, [email protected] writes: >I am looking for information on Valentine Fries, a shipbuilder in Milan. > He lived there from about 1845 to 1900 when he died. > > > >According to his obituary and other information I have gathered, he was >a wealthy and prominent citizen of Milan, but I cannot find any mention >of him in the censuses nor other family members (surname Paul) who were >alleged to have come to MIlan to work in his various enterprises. > > > >How could a man of his stature escape the census? > > > >Is there somewhere I can write to request the list of land transactions >during the late 1800s to ascertain his whereabouts that way? > > > >Thank you. > > > >anna > > ============================================================================ Researching: Clipson, Gaunt (Gant), Hendrickson, Jarrett, Mason, Miteff, Schoonmaker, Siehl, Stickreth, Towne, Vladiff, Yaple (Jappel, Yeaple) Whoever said "Seek and ye shall find" was not a genealogist.

Laurie: I researched and found the following information at the Erie County Probate Court. Birth and Death records in Probate Court are from 1867-1908. BIRTH RECORDS Vol 1 Page 330 No 37 Anna Frances Stow DOB 4 Feb 1876 Place: Berlin, Erie County, OH Father: Edward T Stow Mother: Sophia Groshoarer Residence: Berlin, OH Reported by: B F Fowler I also checked the DEATH RECORDS and thought this E S Stowe was interesting since he was born in NY and you said that Frances's father was also born in NY. Vol 1 Page 94 No 3 E S Stowe DOD: 24 Nov 1872 age 59 years 7 months 8 days Place of death: Milan, Erie County, OH Place of birth: Broome Co. NY Occupation: Farmer Condition: Married Sex: Male Vol 2 Page 29 No 19 Almia P Stow DOD 9 Jan 1884 age 69 years 0 months 28 days Place of Death: Milan Township, Erie County, OH Place of Birth: New Hampshire Occupation: none listed Condition: Widow Sex: Female Cause of Death: Rheumatism of the Heart Vol 2 Page 95 No 32 Samuel C Stow DOD 3 Aug 1888 age 34 years 6 months 0 days Place of Death: Milan, Erie County, OH Place of Birth: Milan, Erie County, OH Occupation: Post Office Money Clerk Condition: Married Sex: Male Cause of Death: Fever Last place of residence: California I hope this information is helpful. Janis Burke Erie County Chapter, Ohio Genealogical Society --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

Dear Elizabeth, A bit of interesting information from Hewson Peeke's 1916 History of Erie County, page 415: "In April 1851, August Ruemmele and Herman Ruess began the publication of the first German newspaper published in the county, called the Intelligente Blatt. It ceased publication in 1854. The Bay Stadt Demokrat was the next German paper and was established in 1856 by Louis Traub. In 1873 it was purchased by William Senn and appeared under the name of the Sandusky Demokrat by which name it has ever since been known. It is now the only German paper in the county. It is now published by William Ruemmele and has a strong influence among the German element." Sorry, can't find any info on Heinrich and Dewaldt families. Jacob Vogt is listed on the 1880 Kelley's Island census index. VOGT, Jacob o.p.17; n.p.75A --- o.p. means old page number, n.p. means new page number. Wish I could find more. Good luck! Shelly Clipson-Shock Powhatan, Virginia In a message dated 12/31/02 11:39:36 PM, [email protected] writes: >Researching Theresa Dewaldt d. 10 Nov. 1893 buried in Oakland ceme. Sandusky, >Ohio. Had a son Theodore Ruemmele by her 1st marriage (29 October 1855 >)to August Ruemmele. Theodore's children were Alma Ruemmele, Arthur Ruemmele >and Ralph Ruemmele. > >2nd husband was Joseph Dewaldt married 3rd December 1864. > >Believe her to be my great-great-grandmother, Johanna Vogt (Mrs. Jacob >Vogt) of Marblehead, Ohio sister. > >What village in Germany was she born? > >Elizabeth Stager > > ============================================================================ Researching: Clipson, Gaunt (Gant), Hendrickson, Jarrett, Mason, Miteff, Schoonmaker, Siehl, Stickreth, Towne, Vladiff, Yaple (Jappel, Yeaple) Whoever said "Seek and ye shall find" was not a genealogist.

Thank you so much. This is my gr grandfather's kid brother. He lived just far enough away that finding info on the family is taking on abit of a challenge. Marilyn

Found on the 1880 Florence Township census: 112 DELLEFIELD Anton c1837 H.C. wife Margaret c1844 H.C. son Augustus c1865 OH dau Christina c1866 OH dau Mary c1868 OH son George c1870 OH dau Catherine c1872 OH dau Margaret c1874 OH dau Elizabeth c1877 OH dau Barbara c1879 OH In a message dated 12/24/02 8:00:55 PM, [email protected] writes: >I have a Christina Dellifield that was married to Peter John Leimbach 1889. > >He passed away 1935. This is one Dellefield line I have yet to "flesh >out" > >Any help would be most appreciated >Marilyn Tyler >Thank you and Merry Christmas > ============================================================================ Researching: Clipson, Gaunt (Gant), Hendrickson, Jarrett, Mason, Miteff, Schoonmaker, Siehl, Stickreth, Towne, Vladiff, Yaple (Jappel, Yeaple) Whoever said "Seek and ye shall find" was not a genealogist.

Hello Everyone: Does anyone know if there are any city directories for Kelley's Island, starting in the 1850s? I thought Kelley's Island might be included with the Sandusky city directories, but I haven't found any mention of it in the Sandusky directories, unless I missed it completely. LDS has nothing for Kelley's except cemetery data. If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you! Paul C. Miller

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: STOWE, EKMAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1VB.2ACE/11419 Message Board Post: I am trying to find the parentage (and any siblings) of Frances A. Stowe, born 4 February 1874 in Milan. Father was (according to 1920 census) born in New York. Mother (according to same census) was born in Illinois. Frances's death certificate gives mother's given name as Sophie, surname unknown, but born in Germany. Father's given name is listed as unknown. Frances fetched up in Minneapolis, Minnesota in 1909-10, where she became engaged to Knut Otto Ekman from Sweden. They married 19 Feb. 1910 in Los Angeles. Twin daughters, Marie and Augusta, were born to them in 1911 in Oregon, but family returned to live in Minneapolis, where Knut died in 1929 and Frances in 1941. Any look-up or other information would be very gratefully received.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: O'Mara Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1VB.2ACE/11418 Message Board Post: I thought I'd share the obituary of Leo O'Mara of Milan, Ohio from the Bellevue Gazette of August 19, 1957 (p. 1; col. 8): Leo O'Mara Died Sunday; Services Will Be Wednesday Leo O'Mara, 69, Milan, O., died early Sunday morning at the home of his sister, Mrs. A. A. Wilhelm, Ellis Ave. He had been ill for six months. He spent most of his life in Lorain, O., moving back to Milan three years ago where he made his home with a sister and a brother. He was a member of St. Anthony's Church, Milan and the Holy Name Society. Surviving Mr. O'Mara are two sisters, Miss Louise O'Mara, and Mrs. Wilhelm; two brothers, Henry O'Mara, Lowell, Ind., and Ambrose O'Mara, Milan; several nieces and nephews. His wife preceded him in death in 1954. The Rosary will be recited at the Rawle Funeral Home, Milan, Tuesday at 7:30 p.m. Friends may call at the funeral home. Funeral services will be Wednesday at 9 a.m. from St. Anthony's Church, Milan, with the Rev. James McGowan officiating. Burial will be in Calvary Cemetery, Lorain, O.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: O'Mara Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/1VB.2ACE/11417 Message Board Post: I thought I'd share the obituary of Ambrose O'Mara of Milan, Ohio from the Fremont News Messenger dated October 9, 1962 (p. 2; col. 4): Ambrose O'Mara BELLEVUE, O. -- Funeral services will be held at 8 a.m. Wednesday in St. Anthony's church, Milan, for Ambrose J. O'Mara, 63, of Milan, brother of Mrs. A. A. Wilhelm, Bellevue. Mr. O'Mara, a life-long resident of Milan, died Sunday in Norwalk Fisher-Titus Memorail hospital after an illness of several months. Additional survivors are a sister, Miss Louise O'Mara of Milan and a brother, Henry, of Lowell, Ind. Friends may call at the residence Tuesday.

Mona: Information from Birmingham Cemetery, Florence Township, Erie County OH Jennee, Lovina C b. d. Aug 1, 1841 7 yrs 10 mon 19 days d/o Mary & Thomas J Jennee Janis Burke Erie County Chapter Ohio Genealogical Society --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

John: Here is all I could locate in the Castalia Cemetery, Margaretta Township, Erie Co, OH Franklin Stiles Jewett, 1859-1935 died Tues, 17 Sept 1935 Husband of Margaret Margaret Jewett, 1874-1911 Wife of Frank Sherman Franklin Jewett, 1905-1907 Son of George and Mabel Jewett Baby Jewett. 1924 Baby of G H & M L Jewett George H Jewett, 1898-1931 Husband of Mabel Father of Infant and Sherman Jewett Mabel L Jewett, 1897-1925 Wife of George Mother of Infant and Sherman Jewett Wilma A Jewett, 1925-1975 I did not locate: Henry Frank Jewett (prob. not buried here) - d. abt. 1850-70 George Jewett (died as child) -------------------- d. ca.1910 Arthur Jewett (died as child) --------------------- d. ca. 1910 There is a listing for: Christopher Nelson Martin, 1827-1909 Janis Burke Erie County Chapter, Ohio Genealogical Society --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

John According to the "Erie County, Ohio, Cemetery Census Before 1909" the only Margaretta Twp listing I found in Castalia Cem: JEWETT, Sherman, 1905-1907, s/o George & Mabel There are many MARTINs but no Christopher or Phoebe. I also check Sandhill Cem with no results. Crystal Rock is in Margaretta Twp, but you may want to check Sandusky County which is very close by. Carol --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

This family was named Hills, but on many records the name is recorded as Hill. Ebenezer B. Hills, wife Hannah Unknown. They arrived in Erie County from New York State sometime in the early 1830s. The last record I have of the family in Erie County was 1847. After that, nothing. Ebenezer and Hannah had several children. The only one I have information on is my g-g-grandfather James Melvin Hills. He married Sarah M. Patch in 1844 in Erie County. By 1850, they were in Louisiana with no other family members, except for their children. I do not have names of any of James Melvin Hills' siblings. He was b.1819 in NY and was one of the middle children. As far as I know, all siblings were b. NY. If you have any Hill or Hills marriages into your family who fit this profile, I would love to talk to you. Carol Kilgore

Remember Eliza POWERS HILL and our correspondence? Carol, this seemed creepy to me when you mentioned the relationship between Patch Grove, Wisconsin and the Hill name. Do you think we have a connection? Pat Hansen -----Original Message----- From: Carol Kilgore [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 12:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHErie] Hill / Hills This family was named Hills, but on many records the name is recorded as Hill. Ebenezer B. Hills, wife Hannah Unknown. They arrived in Erie County from New York State sometime in the early 1830s. The last record I have of the family in Erie County was 1847. After that, nothing. Ebenezer and Hannah had several children. The only one I have information on is my g-g-grandfather James Melvin Hills. He married Sarah M. Patch in 1844 in Erie County. By 1850, they were in Louisiana with no other family members, except for their children. I do not have names of any of James Melvin Hills' siblings. He was b.1819 in NY and was one of the middle children. As far as I know, all siblings were b. NY. If you have any Hill or Hills marriages into your family who fit this profile, I would love to talk to you. Carol Kilgore ==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== Feel free to share your research tips, get help from others and discuss ideas on research and resources for Erie County. To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHERIE for the list name.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jennee, Jenney, Jenne ect.. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1VB.2ACE/11416 Message Board Post: Looking for surname: Jennee, Jenne, Jenney ect.... (Thomas??) Jefferson Jennee married to Mary (born in PA) Children: Isaac Jennee born abt 1838 Elyria, OH Debbie Anne Jennee born abt 1838 OH Lovina(???) born abt 1833 buried Florence Twp. Eire County Cem 1841

Could someone look up JEWETTs in Castalia Cemetery for me? Especially: Henry Frank Jewett (prob. not buried here) - d. abt. 1850-70 Franklin Stiles Jewett (son & husband) ------ d. Sep 1935 Margaret (Maggie) Jewett (wife) -------------- d. ca. 1910 Sherman Jewett (died as child) ------------------ d. ca. 1907 George Jewett (died as child) -------------------- d. ca.1910 Arthur Jewett (died as child) --------------------- d. ca. 1910 Also search for MARTINs in a cemetery near Crystal Rock: Christopher Martin (husband) -------------------d. 1901 Phoebe Martin (wife) ---------------------------- d. aft. 1880 Many thanks for any help anyone could give. John _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Regarding my mailings to all of the Senators and the Governor of Ohio, I received quite a few responses. While they are all probably form letters at least there was a response, Senator DiDonato had this suggestion in his reply: <He really appreciates your input on this item. He will consider your thoughts during the budget process. He also urges you to contact Senate President Doug White to inform him of your opinion on this matter. You may contact his office at: Senate President Doug White Statehouse Columbus, OH 43215 614-466-8082 Once again, thank you for contacting Senator DiDonato in regard to the uncertified copy choice.  If you have any future questions or concerns feel free to contact his office. Sincerely, Melissa Melissa Fazekas Administrative Aide Greg L. DiDonato Senate Minority Leader 30th District> >From Senator Kirk Schuring <Thank you for your letter regarding your interest in the state biennial operating budget for FY 2004 and FY 2005 concerning open records.  I appreciate hearing from you about this important issue.The bill addressing the budget cycle (House Bill 95) was recently passed in the House.  The Senate Finance Committee will amend the bill and send it to the Senate floor sometime in early June.  Typically, the budgetary process is not concluded until mid June.  I mention all of this because you will see and hear many proposals between now and June.  This is a very contentious budget, and it will require an extraordinary amount of deliberation and debate.  Please be patient when a proposal is submitted.  I appreciate your feedback during this challenging budgetary process, and I can assure you that your thoughts and views will be taken into consideration as we proceed. Thank you again for sharing your opinion with me.  Please feel free to contact me whenever there is an issue that concerns you. Sincerely,   Kirk Schuring State Senator 29th Senate District> >From Senator Bill Harris <Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding House Bill 145, which was amended by the House of Representatives into HB 95, the biennial operating budget. As you are well aware, this language would prohibit a governmental agency within the state from providing electronic services if the same services can be provided by private industry.  While I certainly understand the intent of this language, I have met with numerous officials from state departments and agencies, as well as other interested parties, who have expressed strong opposition to the amended language.     This provision, in addition to the entire biennial operating budget, is currently being discussed between members of the Senate Finance Committee and the various interested parties.  While it is too soon what changes may occur to this particular language, I can assure you that we are looking very closely at the impact this provision may have on informational services provided by the state. Once again, thank you for your correspondence.  If I can be of further assistance to you with this or any other state-related matter, please feel free to contact me. Sincerely,  Senator Bill HarrisChairman, Senate Finance Committee19th Senate District> I intend to just keep writing. I made a form letter on an email and send it to myself and then went to the site with all of the senators listed and just clicked on their email connection and did a cut and paste from my own email. Took about half an hour to send to every senator and the governor. There is probably a better way but this was quick and easy for me. Sharon in So. California

Recently, the Ohio House of Representatives passed House Bill 95 (the state budget bill). Included in sections 3705.23 and 3705.24 is language that would: -- eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- add a $5 surcharge to what is already charged for a certified copy (raising the total cost of a single document to anywhere between $12 and $17, depending on the agency) -- creates a "certification of birth," which does not require the parents' names to be listed In addition, the certified copy is not required to be a photocopy of the record. Unlike other states where the threat to vital records access is based on fears about identity theft and homeland security, the Ohio legislature is doing this under the guise of "fiscal responsibility." Although nobody has been able to get someone to speak on the record, my sources at the Ohio Historical Society tell me that they have heard from the State Vital Statistics officials, who say that they cannot afford to process uncertified copies. (Because the way the open records law is written, agencies must charge "at cost," which cannot include the cost of labor or any overhead, such as maintenance and preservation of the record.) Ohio has had a long tradition of open records. The Ohio Revised Code section 149.43 requires that "...all public records shall be promptly prepared and made available for inspection to any person at all reasonable times during regular business hours. Subject to division (B)(4) of this section, upon request, a public office or person responsible for public records shall make copies available at cost, within a reasonable period of time. In order to facilitate broader access to public records, public offices shall maintain public records in a manner that they can be made available for inspection in accordance with this division." House Bill 95 does not exclude vital records from what are defined as public records. There are many other ways to keep uncertified photocopies available to the public, including setting a statutory fee (perhaps at $1 per page) or setting the fee at a percentage of the certified fee. The full text of Ohio HB95 can be found at: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/BillText125/125_HB_95_PH_N.html It is a very large page. Use your Internet browser to find 3705.22 (3705.24 immediately follows.) The bill has passed the House, and has been forwarded to the Senate, where the Finance and Financial Institutions Committee is hearing testimony. Links to contact information for the members of the Ohio Senate can be found at: http://www.senate.state.oh.us/senators/by_name.html Members of the Finance and Financial Institutions Committee are: Bill Harris, Chair Ron Amstutz Louis Blessing John Carey James Carnes Eric Fingerhut Randy Gardner David Goodman Jay Hottinger Jeff Jacobson Mark Mallory Ray Miller C.J. Prentiss Even if you do not live in Ohio, there is nothing to say that you cannot contact any member of the Ohio Senate or the Ohio House and tell them how the language in sections 3705.23, 3705.24, etc. would affect you. At 09:39 AM 5/6/2003, [email protected] wrote: >Hello, >I just wanted to say that I was talking to someone yesterday from the office >of the death records and was told that we are not going to be able to get the >uncertified copies of death certificates in a month or so it will be >certified copies only and the price is being raised to $15.00. I asked what >this new law that is being put in to affect will do to the researcher and I >was told it will hurt the researcher. So my advice is if you have any death >or birth certificates to get from Erie County get them as soon as you can >before they are not as easy for you to get. >Thanks, >Norma > > >==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== >Feel free to share your research tips, get help from others and discuss >ideas on research and resources for Erie County. >To search this list go to >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHERIE for >the list name.

Hello, I just wanted to say that I was talking to someone yesterday from the office of the death records and was told that we are not going to be able to get the uncertified copies of death certificates in a month or so it will be certified copies only and the price is being raised to $15.00. I asked what this new law that is being put in to affect will do to the researcher and I was told it will hurt the researcher. So my advice is if you have any death or birth certificates to get from Erie County get them as soon as you can before they are not as easy for you to get. Thanks, Norma