I just called the number given in Mick Burdge's email for the governor's office (614 466 3555) with a question about the copies of birth and death certificates. I was referred to the Ohio Department of Health. Their response was that non-certified copies of either are five cents plus postage and they had no knowledge of any intent to increase the price. Mick's email says that non-certified copies will no longer be available after 1 July and certified copies will be $17. Certified copies will remain at ten dollars according to OD of H. Is there some confusion here???????????

Check out the Taft Family genealogy site maybe somebody could contact his relatives for help http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~taft/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mick Burdge" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [OHErie] Email Governor Taft to stop the 1700% price increase for birth & death certificates Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:41:57 -0400 IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have any chance of stopping this increase. Email Governor Taft to stop the 1700% price increase for birth & death certificates. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then you should immediately contact your state senators and representatives and ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it within just a day or two). Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. If you want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include your snail mail address. (I included mine.) Thanks Mick Burdge Dayton, Ohio Governors email address: [email protected] His office phone numbers: (614) 466-3555 (614) 644-0957 You can find your state senators & representatives here: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ My email to his office this morning: Dear Governor Taft -- I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 per copy. It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper research. I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the dept would make the records mor! e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. (2) This year, I made a! similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's records. The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have vetoed such an increase. Michael J. Burdge ==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== Listowner Email is [email protected] or [email protected] To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHERIE for the list name. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

IMPORTANT info for genealogists -- cost of Ohio birth & death certificates may go from $1 to $17. Your immediate action is necessary if we are to have any chance of stopping this increase. Email Governor Taft to stop the 1700% price increase for birth & death certificates. If Governor Taft signs the bill, then you should immediately contact your state senators and representatives and ask that they sponsor legislation to roll back the price increase and reinstate uncertified copies at reduced cost. I recently learned that the Ohio legislature has proposed a budget for 2002-2003 that will eliminate uncertified copies of birth and death records. If Governor Taft signs the bill as presented, you won't be able to get uncertified copies of those any more from the state or county depts of health after July 1 -- and your cost will go from $1 per uncertified copy to $17 for each certified copy -- a 1700% increase that will make the cost of genealogy research prohibitive, especially for retirees. Governor Taft has line item veto power which would enable him to veto the offending provisions of the bill -- but we must act NOW if we are to have any chance of influencing him to exercise his line item veto power. A campaign of email and phone calls should do it (letters will take to long, since Gov Taft is considering the budget now and is expecting to act on it within just a day or two). Please send Governor Taft an email -- or call his office and complain about the proposed increase. His email address and phone number are set forth below. Also below is a copy of an email I sent to the Governor this morning. You may also want to mention that many people begin researching their family histories after retirement -- but the proposed increase will make that cost prohibitive for them in particular. If just half of the subscribers to the Ohio rootsweb lists contact the Governor, we may be able to stop the increase. If you want the Governor to send you a written response, you must include your snail mail address. (I included mine.) Thanks Mick Burdge Dayton, Ohio Governors email address: [email protected] His office phone numbers: (614) 466-3555 (614) 644-0957 You can find your state senators & representatives here: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/ My email to his office this morning: Dear Governor Taft -- I am asking that you please use your line item veto, and whatever other powers you have, to remove the proposed increase in the cost of obtaining death and birth certificates -- to be specific, please remove from the proposed budget the requirement that the public can obtain such vital records only in the form of expensive certified copies. The proposal would mean that the Ohio public would have to suffer an increase from $1 to $17 per copy. It is quite ironic that in the year 2003, while Ohio purports to celebrate its bicentennial, Ohio is about to enact legislation that makes it too expensive to research part of Ohio's history. The proposed budget will eliminate uncertified copies that so many historians, genealogists, and newspaper reporters use in researching early Ohioans. Perhaps a reasonable and modest increase to $2 for uncertified copies would be appropriate; but raising the cost from $1 to $17 is outrageous. The proposed increase will make it cost prohibitive for Ohioans to conduct family and genealogical research in this state. These records, especially death certificates, are critical to doing proper research. Death certificates contain names of parents, places of birth, and other information necessary to do proper research. I understand that the Dept of Health has stated that it needs to increase the fees for such records because it does not receive enough in fees to pay for the manpower necessary to fulfill requests. In my opinion, that is a false and pretextual position -- and attempt to continue it current unreasonable restriction on access to public records. The fact is that the dept makes it virtually impossible for researchers to access the records to conduct their own research. If the dept would make the records more accessible for citizens to do their own research, the dept could avoid the high labor costs it complains about. In order to research the records a person has to make an appointment about 2-3 weeks in advance because the dept places an unreasonable restriction on the number of researchers per day. Then the dept charges just $3 for doing research for a 10-year period. No wonder the dept fees do not pay for the labor costs involved. If the dept would make the records mor! e accessible and charge an appropriate fee for doing research, it would no have to raise the raise the cost of certificates from $1 to $17. Let me give three examples that show how the proposed increase will make research cost prohibitive. (1) Last year, I prepared a family history report as a gift for an Ohio citizen that served as a pilot in both World War II and the Korean War. His ancestors were some of the first to settle in the Cincinnati area when it was then called Columbia in the Northwest Territory. One of his ancestors is mentioned in an article in the first newspaper printed in the Northwest Territory. In the course of doing that research, I had to get copies of about 30 death certificates. Insofar as the certificates were for research purposes, I did not need them to be certified and my cost was $1 per record, a total of about $30. Under the proposed budget, I would have to pay for certified copies at $17 each -- a total of $510 -- even though I did all the research to determine the precise record that I needed. There is no way I could afford to make that kind of gift. (2) This year, I made a! similar gift to another Ohio elderly Ohio citizen who served in World War II at Normandy. I had to obtain about 27 uncertified death certificates at a cost of $27. Under the proposed budget, the cost would be $459. (3) Over the last five years, in researching my own family, I have obtained approximately 300 uncertified death records. The proposed budget would make that absolutely cost prohibitive -- $5100. Also, please note that the Mormon research facilities are no substitute for public access to Ohio public records. Moreover, the Mormon library's material does NOT include Ohio birth and death records after 1908. There is nearly a 100 year gap between the info at the Mormon library and today's records. The simple fact is this -- there is no legitimate reason why researchers should not be able to do their own research, and to pay for the actual cost of obtaining copies that their own research has identified and located. Please, please -- do not eliminate uncertified copies of vital records -- and do not allow the cost of vital records to increase to $17 each. Such an increase will put an end to family and genealogical research in this state. Thanks for listening -- and I hope to read in the newspaper that you have vetoed such an increase. Michael J. Burdge

I am looking for any information on a William BLOOMER who was living in Huron Township, Erie County, Ohio in the 1840 Federal Census. He was born in about 1806 in New York. He may have been a ship carpenter. Listed in the household were the following people: 1 male 5/10 years 2 male 10/15 years 1 male 30/40 years 2 female 0/5 years 1 female 30/40 years I believe he may have married a Eliza NELSON some time between 1835 and the 1840 census. She would have been a widow with 4 or 5 Nelson children. Any information on a NELSON or BLOOMER family in Erie County would be much appreciated. I will gladly share what information I have on these people. Lynn Dever [email protected] Researching Dever, Littler, Nelson, Barr, Thornton and Sjurset Families

In a message dated 6/21/2003 1:51:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Those are the only Weingates/Winegates listed. > Ed > Hello Ed: Thank you very much for the information. I was very helpful. Paul C. Miller

Hello Paul, In the book: Frank Weingates b. April 12, 1826 d. March 22, 1903 (father) Bridget Weingates (Teehen) June 22, 1906 76 yrs. w/o Frank J. Weingates Those are the only Weingates/Winegates listed. Ed > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:20:26 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OHErie] St. Joseph's Cemetery - Sandusky > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:20:33 -0600 > > Hello Everyone: > If anyone has access to the book listing pre 1909 burials, I would greatly > appreciate a look-up in St. Joseph's Cemetery. The surname is > Weingates/Winegates. The first names that I have are Frank and Bridget, but I > would also be > interested in any other family members, as well as Bridget's maiden name, if > that happens to be mentioned. > Thank you very much! > Paul C. Miller > > > ==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== > Listowner Email is [email protected] or [email protected] > To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > and enter OHERIE for the list name. > >

Hello Everyone: If anyone has access to the book listing pre 1909 burials, I would greatly appreciate a look-up in St. Joseph's Cemetery. The surname is Weingates/Winegates. The first names that I have are Frank and Bridget, but I would also be interested in any other family members, as well as Bridget's maiden name, if that happens to be mentioned. Thank you very much! Paul C. Miller

I just purchased a post card. the post card is written by Alfred Brant to his father. On this post card are several people and 3 children on a ship named the Bayern. It is written in German. According to the ships Manifest Alfred Brant was 33 when he came to the US with his wife Magnelena and his daughter Grete who was 4. It states that his cousin paid his passage and he had $75.00 on him when he arrived. He would be staying with his cousin Carl Feick at 321 Decatur Street Sandusky, Ohio, the date on the postcard is June, 1923. the postcard is written to his father Johannes Brant in Lubeck Germany. Does this sound familiar to anyone? thanks Norma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Steele Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1VB.2ACE/11429 Message Board Post: I am trying to locate information on Stanley and/or Clara Steele. They lived in Huron and were live-in caretakers for the Coakley home in Huron. They had no children.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1VB.2ACE/11428 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Rsalia Malvina Elwood born Nov 06, 1849 in Florence Ohio married John Nolan and is buried in Spring Grove Cemetary 1909 under Derby stone. Anything on her birth, marriagae to John Nolan would be interested in knowing about. Thank you, J Hughes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/1VB.2ACE/110.1 Message Board Post: I am Maria Inez Rodriguez daughter and I happen to cross this post, its late but my condolences to the family.

C.W. I researched the Erie County Probate Court birth and death records prior to 1908 and did not locate a Sarah Perry. Question: Is Perry her maiden or married name? Do you think your GGrandfather was also born in Erie Co? If so, what was his name? Do you think they were married in Erie Co or the Detroit area? If you are interested in having me check further, please email me with a little more information. jb Janis Erie County Chapter Ohio Genealogical Society ---Message--- Looking for any information on Sarah H. Perry, it was said that she was born in Erie County. I don't know when she married my GGrandfather, but they lived in the Detroit area prior to her death. Since my grandfather was raised by an aunt from the time he was 6 I'm going on the assumption that she died sometime between 1893 and 1899. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

Carol: I did a quick check of the Florence Township Cemeteries and found the following: Cable Cemetery Rowland, Fanny b.____ d._____ 90 yrs, 10 m. 20 d. w/o Sylvester Rowland Rowland, Frances S b.____ d. 12 April 1847 27 yrs. 11 m. 6 d. w/o William J Rowland Rowland, Sylvester . _____ d. 30 Dec 1863 76 yrs. 7m. 16 d. I didn't check the name Aldrich yet. jb Janis Sandusky, Erie County, OH Erie County Chapter Ohio Genealogical Society --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by LRBCG.COM, Inc.]

Check the following: Huron Historical Society 401 Williams St Huron 44839 ----Original Message Follows---- From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [OHErie] cemetery Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:30:36 EDT Can anyone tell me the name of the cemetery on River Road in Huron? Also who holds the records for this cemetery? I found out that my mother's sister is buried there. she died when she was 6 weeks old oh whooping cough. I was told that she had no marker so I cannot go and look for myself. Appreciate any help you can give. Norma ==== OHERIE Mailing List ==== Feel free to share your research tips, get help from others and discuss ideas on research and resources for Erie County. To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHERIE for the list name. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Can anyone tell me the name of the cemetery on River Road in Huron? Also who holds the records for this cemetery? I found out that my mother's sister is buried there. she died when she was 6 weeks old oh whooping cough. I was told that she had no marker so I cannot go and look for myself. Appreciate any help you can give. Norma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Roland (Rowland) Aldrich Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1VB.2ACE/11427 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the Roland or Rowland family in Erie Co., Florence township. They are in both the 1860 and 70 census records. The names are Sylvester, born abt.1787 in Conn., Fanny, born abt. 1788 in Conn. Sylvester and Fanny's son was William, born about 1816 in Conn. William's children were Isabella and Nancy Roland. Nancy married Nehemiah Aldrich (son of Ruel Aldrich and Mary Ann Marsh). Nehemiah's and Nancy's children were: Charles, Emma J., and Mary Belle (or Mamie). If anyone has information about this family please contact me directly. Thankyou Carol Horrigan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kreimes, Ocker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1VB.2ACE/11327.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Fred and Daisy are my grandparents (their youngest son Andrew was my father). I have all the info on their children and probably all the info on Fred's brothers and sisters. It's his mother and father (Cathrine Ocker and Andrew Kreimes) that I've hit a brick wall on. If you'd like, e-mail me off list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1VB.2ACE/11327.1.1 Message Board Post: Fred and Daisey are my great grandparents. they had a lot more children then just those two. I am looking for information on Andrew, Fred's father, and any information on Daisey's parents. If you have anything or would like the names of the other children, let me know.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/1VB.2ACE/1006.1 Message Board Post: Werner, I am researching Lichtenstein, Butzen, Fulver,Reis, Bartzen, Fritzen, Nagel, Jungblut, Schmitz, Schweisthal, Daniel, Berlin, Clemens, Roth, Breithbach/Breidbach, Muller, Schneider, Schul, Streusser/Strausser, Thomas, Verhaag, Coenen/Koenen, Hommerding, Kees, Burg, Bitdinger, Geiffes, Simon, all possibly from Reil on the Mosel Germany/Bavaria. My lines all ended up in the Chicago, Ill area, bit on my mother's side of the family I have many relatives (Kruszynski from Posen) in the Fostoria/Sandusy area iof Ohio. If you can provide more information, I will keep it on hand when I search Ohio records........ Let me know if I am in the right ballpark with your family - I have info on many of these names back to the early-mid 1600s in Reil. Regards, Maureen Murray Webb

I need a person located in Erie County to obtain some records for me before the new fees go into effect on July 1st. I will pay for your time, gas, parking and of course the records and postage. Please contact me at [email protected] if you are able to assist me. Deeply indebted to anyone willing to go the extra mile.