Hi Chuck, Sorry, but your Calvin Snyder and my Calvin Lorenzo Snyder are two different people. Calvin Lorenzo Snyder was born 10 Feb 1890 in DCO and died 10 Feb 1977 in DCO (according to his death cert). He was the son of Martin Luther Snyder and Elizabeth Alice Horine. Thanks for trying! --Teri >From: " " <bookfndr@microcore.net>(by way of Wally <wally@calweb.com>) >To: OHDARKE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [OHDARKE] Re: Marriage records >Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:19:10 -0700 > > >X-Message: #1 > >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:16:30 -0400 > >From: "Teri Templeton" <ttempl75@hotmail.com> > >To: OHDARKE-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <BAY2-F106VhGOD6gx3l000063e4@hotmail.com> > >Subject: [OHDARKE] Marriage records > >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > >I'm looking for marriage information in Darke County for the following. > >Please let me know if you have access to this information. > > > >Calvin Lorenzo Snyder & Laura Elsie Oliver - probably betw 1908 and 1916 > >John H Stump & Erma Mae Folck - 1950/1951 > >Orla Leon Snyder & Willowdean Lavaun Rex - probably betw 1938 and 1941 > >Jacob Rex & Catharine Kinney - probably betw 1837 and 1840 > >David Baker & Susanna Troutwine - probably betw 1880 and 1890 > > > >Thanks, > >--Teri >Terri, > >I show Calvin Lorenzo Snyder dying in 1905. Please correct me if that is >wrong. He was the second husband of three married to Effie Mae Beauchamp. I >would be interested in any additional information on Calvin to add to my >files. > >Chuck > > >==== OHDARKE Mailing List ==== >Visit the OHDARKE List Information page at >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/darke.html >Subscribe, unsubscribe, view list archives, etc. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

>X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 19:03:09 -0700 >From: BANDBINNS@aol.com (by way of Wally <wally@calweb.com>) >To: OHDARKE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030702190250.02daa7b0@pop.calweb.com> >Subject: [OHDARKE] WESTFALL/ROLL - 100th BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE TO MARY WESTFALL ROLL >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Don't know if you have ever seen this. >If not, I thought you may find it of interest. > >Sherry Jones Ryan >San Diego >bandbinns@aol.com > > > ONE HUNDRETH BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE TO MARY WESTFALL ROLL Thanks Sherry, I put it in my file on Mary Westfall in my database. Chuck

>X-Message: #1 >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:16:30 -0400 >From: "Teri Templeton" <ttempl75@hotmail.com> >To: OHDARKE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY2-F106VhGOD6gx3l000063e4@hotmail.com> >Subject: [OHDARKE] Marriage records >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >I'm looking for marriage information in Darke County for the following. >Please let me know if you have access to this information. > >Calvin Lorenzo Snyder & Laura Elsie Oliver - probably betw 1908 and 1916 >John H Stump & Erma Mae Folck - 1950/1951 >Orla Leon Snyder & Willowdean Lavaun Rex - probably betw 1938 and 1941 >Jacob Rex & Catharine Kinney - probably betw 1837 and 1840 >David Baker & Susanna Troutwine - probably betw 1880 and 1890 > >Thanks, >--Teri Terri, I show Calvin Lorenzo Snyder dying in 1905. Please correct me if that is wrong. He was the second husband of three married to Effie Mae Beauchamp. I would be interested in any additional information on Calvin to add to my files. Chuck

Please reply ONLY on the Board (link below): ============================================ This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Friederich, Ebling, Schnell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACE/227.1 Message Board Post: My Grandmother Elizabeth Schnell had relatives that settled in Darke County Ohio, arriving from Dittlesheim, Rhein Hessen, Germany. It's probably a longshot, but maybe a connection. Her ancestors were Eblings and Friederich's.Would love to see the photo.

Good morning, As many of you have read, the funding of Ohio's public libraries has been cut because of the slowing economy and unemployment. Last Fall we cut some staff time, our book budgets and began closing early on Friday. Beginning in August we are making a second round of staff, book budget and closing cuts. Beginning August 3, 2003 the Preble County Room will be closed on Sundays. Susan -- Susan H. Kendall, Director Preble County District Library 450 S. Barron Street Eaton, OH 45320 voice: 937-456-4250 - fax: 937-456-6092 eLibrary: http://www.pcdl.lib.oh.us/

Don't know if you have ever seen this. If not, I thought you may find it of interest. Sherry Jones Ryan San Diego bandbinns@aol.com ONE HUNDRETH BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE TO MARY WESTFALL ROLL Mary Westfall Roll, a former resident of Wingate, Indiana, Reaches Her One Hundreth Milestone and Celebrates The Occasion by: J. C. Gregory, her grandson All the citizens, in the middlewest part of our country, knew Mary Westfall Roll, affectionately known as "Aunt Polly," who for many years lived here, and who for seventy two years was a member of the Pleasant Hill Christian Church at Wingate. Aunt Polly went West several years ago, and last Saturday celebrated her one hundredth birthday at Minneapolis, Minnesota. The following article appeared in the Minneapolis Sunday Times. "The one hundreth birthday anniversary of Mary Westfall Roll, was celebrated at the residence of her daughter, Mrs. S. C. Hayes at 3005 Bryand Avenue South. The rooms were appropriately decorated with wheat heads and ripened grain; and loads of roses, asters and carnations were brought in by the guests. Over one hundred and fifty called to greet the vererable hostess. Thirty-four of the one hundred thirty-three decendants of the old lady were present, many of them coming from distant states. At noon the guests were called to order and Mrs. Roll was seated in State in a new oaken chair upholstered in green leather, one of her birthday presents. J. C. Gregory of St. Louis, Missouri, a Grandson, addressed the assembled guests. In part, Mr. Gregory said, "Grandma Roll, kinfolk and friends: The occasion of our coming together is an unusual one, celebration of a centennary birthday, and to many of us it has a deep and thrilling interest, in this wonderful nineteenth century. Mary Westfall Roll has enjoyed the privilege and distinction of extending her span of life through the full one hundred years. As far back as I can remember, it was quoted in our family that "Aunt Polly" Roll, as she called herself, intended to live to be one hundred years old. To those of us who remember the vigor and energy she displayed in her middle life, it is not surprising that she has fulfilled her promise. Often have I heard her relate that on her fiftieth birthday she spun her dozen cuts of yarn, set a blue dye, and in the evening walked three miles to church. That walk was over unimproved roads in central Indiana, a region that at that time was heavily timbered. Born Mary Westfall in Dayton, Ohio, in a log cabin, the first white child born in this city, and in a region infested by wandering Indiana. She experienced the deprivations, dangers and inconveniences of pioneer life. Her early experiences occured at a time and under conditions which required people to do for themselves, whether they wanted to or not. They grew their own wool, sheared, scoured, carded, spun and wove it. They raised their own flax and carried it through every stage of manufacture, from the field to the homely, but serviceable garment of homespun. Even their bread was made by pounding corn into a course meal on a hominy block until civilization so progressed that by going 50 miles on horseback, through the wilderness, they could reach a primitive grist mill with a bag of grain. There to have the grain ground into meal. Their cattle, hogs and poultry and forests filled with wild game, supplied abundant animal food and wood. And the woods also furnished them with honey and sugar, fruits and nuts. They lived like Lords and Peasants in one. Independent, rich in the profusion of all the necessities of life. Their log cabin embowed in beauty and filled with love and laughter where they dwelt on puncheon floors or on the bare earth. They rocked their babies in an ax-made sugar trough and eked out their furnished (sic) by the skin of beasts. They had oiled paper for glass in their single-paned windows. In 1822, soon after Mary Westfall married John Roll, they moved to Montgomery County, Indiana, making the trip here on horseback still in the frontier, among savage beasts, and no less savage men. They reared their family, and when the youngest was an infant in arms, the husband and father, at the age of 34, heard the call of Israel to turn aside in the shadowy land. The undaunted mother kept her children together and reared them in the manner and respect of the times and people. At the same time, amid all her duties, spared so much time and effort in visiting and caring for the sick and afflicted, that the name of Aunt Polly Roll is cherished in that region up to the present generation. Few of whom have ever seen her. As her children grew up and married they removed, one by one, still westward, still on the frontier, into Illinois. And, of course, the Mother now became, many times, a Grandmother, followed them. Twenty years ago when some of them talked of moving to Dakota, "Granny" laid down the law with the bark on it and said, "I've been on the frontier nearly all my life, and I am not going to endure any more of it. If you young ones want to go to a new country, you may, but I'm going to stay here. She meant it at that time. But when all the children and grandchildren went to Dakota, Granny was with them. On the monotonous terrain of what is now South Dakota, near Pierre, she settled and proved up a government claim after she was eighty-five years old. Now after so much hardship, she is rounding out her century amid the comforts of this beautiful city. And as she is entitled to 90 years more of life to make up for the hardships of the frontier we, her decendents and multitude of friends, hope to see her journey a long, long way into her second century amid happy conditions. Notwithstanding her hardships, it has been Grandmother Roll's privilege to live through a golden century indeed. She says that almost everything on earth which is of much value, has been invented, thought out and wrought since she was born. Now on this centennial birthday we, your decendents, scattered throughout nearly one third of the States of the Union, together with friends have gathered together a small testimonial of our esteem. This golden purse contains one hundred and ten dollars in gold coin. One gold coin for each year of your age and ten percent to grow on. It is a gift, dear Grandmother, which typifies the love your children and friends bear you, and the wish that your precious life may be prolonged many years, and may grow in beauty and comfort until you shall have attained unto the golden perfect peace of God toward which every child of his is tending. In this gift and those accompanying it, this chair, this cloak, and other articles, every decendent is represented, those who have gone before as well as those living. Some decendents have contributed more, some less, but all are represented. The total number being one hundred thirty-three." Resolutions of appreciation were read at the Christian Church at Pleasant Hill (Wingate) with which Aunt Polly Roll has been connected for 72 years. A letter of congratulations was read from the Historical Society of Dayton, Ohio. An interesting original poem was read by Mrs. E. J. Newcomb. Robert Harper, who is 101 years old is guest of honor due to his 101 years. He sat beside the venerable hostess. Mr. Harper arose to the occasion and proposed marriage to Mrs. Roll, who responded, "Widowers have been my greatest trouble for the past sixty-five years, but I have kept them at a distance, and I can't afford to break my record. Group pictures were taken of Aunt Polly and her decendents to the number of 34, by Mr. Hays, her son-in-law. Other sums of money and gifts, innumerable to mention, were among the offerings. A picture of Aunt Polly Roll over the name of Mary Westfall, is hanging in the log cabin where she was born in Dayton, Ohio, owned and operated by the Historical Society, who sent a letter of congratulations.

Hello, David's Cemetery, Montgomery Co., OH Have some gravestones photos courtesy of Karen Krugman uploaded to my CREAGER family site. Most of the CREAGERs in Darke Co., OH are descendants of the families found also in Montgomery Co., OH. Remember, long URLs may be truncated/cut off at the end and thus not clickable. Copy the entire URL through "xxx.html" and paste in your browser window. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/CREAGER-KRIEGER/Memoria lGallery4.html If anyone can identify names, dates, or relationships, please let us know. Thank you. Audrey

Rex & Kinney is not shown in the early marriages for Darke Co.???? Baker & Troutwine were married 2 February 1882 by J M Mohler, MG ------------------------- Calvin Snyder married Effie May Kimmel 22 Aug 1901 (Effie was d/o Wm Beauchamp & Catherine Burton) Laura E Oliver married Edgar P Collins 25 Dec 1902 (Laura was d/o Milo Oliver & Lina Thorne) -------------------------- Well, that's not what you were looking for <frown>. Let's see. Published marriages have only been done through 1911. There is no listed marriage between Calvin Sydner and Laura Oliver to 1911. However.... Effie Beauchamp married Shannon Kimmel 5 July 1886 so the marriage to Calvin Snyder was a second marriage for her. My database on OLIVER (information from Bradford resident Leo Rasor) shows Laura Elsie Oliver b 1888 d 1967 married to Calvin Lorenzo Snyder b 1890 d 1977. No date of marriage <frown>. Leo descends from Laura's sister Vertie (that is, Leo is Laura's nephew). Laura Elsie and Laura E----- are not the same person as Laura Elsie was d/o Hyrcanous Oliver & Rebecca Mendenhall (making Laura Elsie a cousin to me in the Mendenhall line). Laura E is shown as d/o Milo Oliver. Milo's marriage to Lina was shown as Milo F Oliver to Landora Thorn 6 Jan 1881 with William Oliver & Jno. W Thorn approving. This shows that the two Olivers cousins were close in age but different people. Someone would have to go to the Probate Court in Greenville to find marriages later than 1911. If you descend from Laura Elsie, keep me posted as I would like to add her marriage date to my file. We would be distant cousins in the MENDENHALL/DAVIDSON families. I have ancestry for Laura Elsie, but no descendant data.... At 6/30/03 03:16 PM -0400, you wrote: >I'm looking for marriage information in Darke County for the following. >Please let me know if you have access to this information. > >Calvin Lorenzo Snyder & Laura Elsie Oliver - probably betw 1908 and 1916 >John H Stump & Erma Mae Folck - 1950/1951 >Orla Leon Snyder & Willowdean Lavaun Rex - probably betw 1938 and 1941 >Jacob Rex & Catharine Kinney - probably betw 1837 and 1840 >David Baker & Susanna Troutwine - probably betw 1880 and 1890 > >Thanks, >--Teri > >_________________________________________________________________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >==== OHDARKE Mailing List ==== >Visit the OHDARKE List Information page at >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/darke.html >Subscribe, unsubscribe, view list archives, etc. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I'm looking for marriage information in Darke County for the following. Please let me know if you have access to this information. Calvin Lorenzo Snyder & Laura Elsie Oliver - probably betw 1908 and 1916 John H Stump & Erma Mae Folck - 1950/1951 Orla Leon Snyder & Willowdean Lavaun Rex - probably betw 1938 and 1941 Jacob Rex & Catharine Kinney - probably betw 1837 and 1840 David Baker & Susanna Troutwine - probably betw 1880 and 1890 Thanks, --Teri _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Please reply ONLY on the Board (link below): ============================================ This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACE/229 Message Board Post: Looking for the descendents of Robert M and Lucetta Elisabeth Vining. They were married in 1875 in Darke Co. OH. He died 24 Oct 1898 and she died 2 Sept 1910. I would like to trade family information.

I am really trying to organize all the things I gathered in the past wk and will be getting bk on RAOGK in a few wks for research volunteering in Darke/Montgomery & Preble Cos. I signed on Darke since I had heard at the Darke fest that many were not aware of what has come to past. I hope one day this damage can be repaired for those wanting documentations of family members. If I had paid the amount they are now going to ask for the ones I have in Holmes Co alone I would be almost in debt. But for those of you who will need help in the Darke Co area you will find me on RAOGK in Jul sometime. I have also donated some and will donate all the photos I have taken for people and eventually will donate the obits as well. I will get that site to this list in case you might want to see if any I have done are related to you. The one that stands out the most is the name DAVIS/SCHANK/MEYER. I have the Catherine (nee Schank) Davis and daughter at Abbottsville then I followed this line to Potsdam Cemetery and found a son of Catherine's in Dayton. I know this family has some members in the Greenville Cemetery and I did find a book at the Greenville library with some of this line so I think someone has done some of this branch. Just and FYI. I also did some for a Van Tilburgh. I really must try and get these new documents organized then prepare myself to spend the big bucks. I am just hoping that all the info will be left on the new vitals since I am told they might not be. Pat Jones riverrat111@earthlink.net

I have just received word that Ohio's biennial budget has been signed by the Gov. He did veto a number of items but, unless I missed it, I saw no veto about the birth/death fees. Susan -- Susan H. Kendall, Director Preble County District Library 450 S. Barron Street Eaton, OH 45320 voice: 937-456-4250 - fax: 937-456-6092 eLibrary: http://www.pcdl.lib.oh.us/

The OHDARKE list is for postings about genealogy IN Darke Co. and families who had/have roots there. The List is not the place for -continued- political discussions about how genealogy is done (or what it will cost) in the state of Ohio nor for recruiting listmembers to letter writing campaigns, etc. An announcement or two is tolerated, but please keep the continued, detailed discussions of what is essentially finance and politics to private e-mail. Thanks...... [yes, I know it's important, but it is not appropriate for the list archives.] At 6/25/03 11:00 PM -0400, you wrote: >You should see the activity about this over on the Franklin County >Board.....I think possibly ....as some of them have said...that the messages >have come back undeliverable....that the mailbox could be FULL!!!! :-) > >Cindy in Forida

Need information please ---- (1) what genealogy software should one purchase that is compatible with the data bases of this list? 2. Does anyone use the ancestry.com data base to enter your info? And if so why do you like it? Just trying hard to "get started" in the right direction. Thanks bunches. June E. Hulit kerryoh@sssnet.com Wooster, OH USA

You should see the activity about this over on the Franklin County Board.....I think possibly ....as some of them have said...that the messages have come back undeliverable....that the mailbox could be FULL!!!! :-) Cindy in Forida -----Original Message----- From: Pat Jones [mailto:riverrat111@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:24 PM To: OHDARKE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHDARKE] I will call gov since they might shut off e-mail as done in past. I think I will place a phone call and ask if they are shutting their e-mail off to certain issues or addresses as was done when whe tried to write senators before it passed. I know this was done for a fact since I wrote all senators and asked if this was so and I received a reply, yes. Mine would be one that would be blocked. I have pushed for saving this since 7 May. I also e-mailed the woman who wrote the article and told her that the governors office is unaware of the price change and any concerns from citizens. Maybe if we all write her as well or cc a copy to her they governor's office will not be able to deny we sent them. Pat Jones riverrat111@earthlink.net ______________________________

Good morning, Today I was searching through some of our Darke Co. books to help a researcher. It appears I am missing the Darke Co. Estates book. This was one of the books I took to share at List Fest. I seem to recall there were copies for sale by the Genealogical Society. I am hoping that it was mixed in with the new copies. But, please check your bags, etc. to see if it accidentally got interfiled among your materials. If you find it please return it to the address below. Many thanks, Susan -- Susan H. Kendall, Director Preble County District Library 450 S. Barron Street Eaton, OH 45320 voice: 937-456-4250 - fax: 937-456-6092 eLibrary: http://www.pcdl.lib.oh.us/

kmcallister@DaytonDailyNews.com ; Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us Pat Jones riverrat111@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Anderson <tiaki@prodigy.net> To: Pat Jones <riverrat111@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [OHDARKE] I will call gov > Good idea. But what would be the e-mail address of this other lady? >

I think I will place a phone call and ask if they are shutting their e-mail off to certain issues or addresses as was done when whe tried to write senators before it passed. I know this was done for a fact since I wrote all senators and asked if this was so and I received a reply, yes. Mine would be one that would be blocked. I have pushed for saving this since 7 May. I also e-mailed the woman who wrote the article and told her that the governors office is unaware of the price change and any concerns from citizens. Maybe if we all write her as well or cc a copy to her they governor's office will not be able to deny we sent them. Pat Jones riverrat111@earthlink.net

Apparently not many family history researchers are making any "noise" about the OHIO fee increase!!!!! I just telephoned the governor's office concerning the uncertified certificates legislation. The person taking calls claimed to be unaware of this increase in fees and promised to pass on my concerns agreeing with me that the increase seemed unreasonable for uncertified copies. Call or send those Emails now. Elaine another list There was a good article in this morning's Hamilton Journal News on the Vital Records issue. I can't find a link to it on the web yet. I believe I heard yesterday that Gov. Taft does have the power of the "line item veto". I plan on writing him today at Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us and asking him to veto the portion of the bill that deals with uncertified copies of vital records. Pat Jones riverrat111@earthlink.net

This article may not be the same as you referred to but is pretty good, although not entirely accurate as to "free" records through the Mormon church. They certainly don't have ALL of them, and it is necessary to rent the films through Salt Lake for the most part. The FHC here in Mesa AZ is their third largest facility, but many records are not available and some films were even pulled from circulation because they contained data about persons who "might still be living." Someone else said Mormon libraries only have b. and d. certifs. up to 1908 although this may not be the case in all of them. The state of AZ is working with the LDS to scan and put such records on computer where they are then available FREE at the FHC. The only cost is 5 cents per page to print the scanned certificate. Only a few years have been done so far however. Karen -----Original Message----- There was a good article in the Dayton Daily News several days ago on the Vital Records issue. See... http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0621certifi cate.html I believe I heard yesterday that Gov. Taft does have the power of the "line item veto". I plan on writing him today at Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us, asking him to veto the portion of the bill that deals with uncertified copies of vital records. -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com -----Original Message----- From: Pat Jones [mailto:riverrat111@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 7:05 AM To: OHDARKE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHDARKE] "line item veto" uncertified vitals please read I am not certain most of you know who I am. My name is Pat Jones and I have been fighting the possible loss of uncertified vital records here in OH. I pleaded my case before the senate hearing in June and seemed to have lost that battle for my ancestors and other researchers. I received this from the Hamilton list this a.m. and am hoping it makes all the county lists as well as local OGS chpts, and other states that have interest in OH roots or just care enough to speak up. I am going to Jackson/Gallia to work on some of the families tomorrow. I just thought that if such a # of people wrote or phoned the governor our families my get a last minute reprieve from the state. I just wanted to post and let anyone know. If you are on other lists and feel as compelled as I it would be nice to see all counties and anyone else make a statement to the governor on our ancestors behalf. I am sending this to those I have helped along with family members as well. "There was a good article in this morning's Hamilton Journal News on the Vital Records issue. I can't find a link to it on the web yet. I believe I heard yesterday that Gov. Taft does have the power of the "line item veto". I plan on writing him today at Governor.Taft@das.state.oh.us and asking him to veto the portion of the bill that deals with uncertified copies of vital records." Pat Jones riverrat111@earthlink.net ==== OHDARKE Mailing List ==== Visit the OHDARKE List Information page at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/darke.html Subscribe, unsubscribe, view list archives, etc. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/03