Hi Rose... Thank you for your message in reply. Now, that's a good thought and one I would hope to pursue if only I knew where to look. <sigh> Bette ====================> > baptismal records were also used > > Rose ======================== >> > The brothers are known to have had Social Security numbers; in the case of the oldest I have his actual S.S. application record. However, when I did a search for the birth records (using a complete birth date) via the Cuyahoga County Archives as well as the LDS/FHL films I came up empty handed. > > I have heard it explained that in some cases family members vouched for the applicant but would there not have to be some documentation on record, even after the fact, to substantiate the birth.