In a message dated 10/11/2004 8:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kcs423@aol.com writes: Could this possibly be them in 1870 in 9-wd Cleveland? JOHNSON, James, 29, works in pipe factory, b. IRE Margaret, 28, keeping house, b. IRE Amanda, 2, b. PA ~~~ David, 21, works in pipe factory, b. ENG If this is them, they may possibly have lived in PA in 1860 census. Thank you so much for the reply. I had them in the 1900 census. I did not have them in the 1870 census. I did not know about David. With him working in a pipe factory and also James and a John worked for Scoville & Chase they had to all be family. James Named a son James DAVID Johnston. More to go on. Thanks again, Bob McKeon