Have you tried olivetreegenealogy.com? There is also a Rootsweb list for shipslists post 1820 and you might try it. Even searching the archives for the Carolus Magnus and the Avance might bring it up. If not, join the list and ask you question. Doris Waggoner Seattle -- BHurst1948@aol.com wrote: I found this information a few years back-does anyone have access to this record and tell me if a Crezenzia Singer accompanied Martin Singer on the Carolus Magnus? Another person has them both arriving on May 20, 1854 on a steamer called the Advance. He then said, that could be wrong... Thank you. N.Y. Passenger Lists 1851-1891 - line 12, roll 143, list # 994 Martin Singer arrived Aug-9-1854 age 27. Point of Departure: LeHavre France Place of origin - Baden Destination - USA Ship: Carolus Magnus Point of Arrival: New York ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Reminder: Please do not send GEDCOM's or large files to the list. These must be sent to the user who requested them. Please contact the County Coordinator, Katie McClellan-Ross at (kathryn.ross2@verizon.net) with questions or concerns. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx