Another hint for finding "missing" obits or notices, instead of just checking the papers for the days following the death, make sure you check subsequent Sunday newspapers or if a holiday was soon to follow, check that paper as well. A lot of times, families try to save a few dollars on the notice by putting notices into only the papers that would reach the most people: i.e. Sundays and holidays. Not everyone gets the paper every day. Jean --- sabolj@aol.com wrote: > If you know the date of death, check the newspapers > on the days following that date. I found my > great-grandfather's death notice (1922) and his > son's death notice (1907) in the Cleveland > newspapers, when they were not in the necrology. I > asked the librarian about this discrepancy, and he > replied that when the necrology file was in hard > copy in file cases people would remove them for > various reasons (they wanted a remembrance of the > death or they didn't want the record on public > view). He said this happened more than you would > imagine. Every time I can't find an item that I > really need in the necrology, I check the Cleveland > newspapers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cynthia Mac Suibhne <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:29:58 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] CPL Necrology Index > > > I've gone to CPL several times and I've ordered > online being from out of town > and I've never seen an copied obituary or indexed > cemetery card read any > different then what's on the CPL site. > > Only the CPL later obits (those after 1975) would > contain more information then > posted online (Clenix). Of course if someone is not > listed at either CPL site > then they didn't have an obit. > > The only way I've ever looked further would be in a > case where there might be a > small article on the death, my great grandfather was > a Cleveland Policeman and > was killed in 1923, that offered more then the obit. > > Cindy > Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: > Can anyone clarify a point? If a listing is found in > the CPL Necrology > Index will the death record ordered from > Microform.Center@cpl.org. reflect > the exact same information as that found online in > the CPL Necrology Index > or could there be more detail forthcoming e.g. an > obituary format? > > Bette > > > > >>3) If I couldn't find any records for them in the > Necrology index, should > >>I > >>bother looking further for obituaries? And who to > contact for assistance > >>with that? > > > > Yes, you should still look. The library will look > them up for a minimal > > charge. 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It can also pay to learn a little about the local paper. In the county where my in-laws lived, (next door to Cuyahoga County) the daily except Sunday paper is delivered free to all county residents on Tuesdays whether they subscribe or not. Notices for both my in-laws appeared in the free Tuesday paper. Another point, check for an obit/death notice a few days before the funeral or memorial service if you have some idea when that took place. They do not all happen within a few days of the person's death. In my in-laws case we published the obits the Tuesday before the memorial service which was two weeks after my mother-in-law's death and three weeks after my father-in-law's death so their only grandchild could come. The notice was not published until just before the service so local friends would not forget the time and place of the service in the weeks between the deaths and the services. One other suggestion is to check papers in the area where the person was born or may have lived for a long time before moving to the place where they died. This is especially true if they still have friends and family in the birthplace or long time place of residence. We ran the obits in two very different geographic locations. One ran where my in-laws lived at the time of their deaths' and one where they were born. Donna