In a message dated 2/10/2005 7:32:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, rgvanidour@execulink.com writes: I387 Name: Kathleen FOX Given Name: Kathleen Surname: Fox Sex: F Birth: 16 JUL 1890 in Lorain,Ohio Death: 13 DEC 1996 in Lorain,Ohio > the above is on ancestry.com on the "family tree" But Lorain is So close and he did live in Cleveland in 1930 SO it seems we have not tried the census or did you?? Anyway I found the below and some interesting neighbors Ray Vanidour {stone ship Amasa] berthed next to Colby ship I have saved the image if you don't have it - I am finding it fascinating all these people living on ships <G> Eliz Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Canada Relation to head-of-house: Ship Keeper Race: White Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio Family and neighbors: View Results Occupation: View Image Education: View Image Military service: View Image Rent/home value: View Image Age at first marriage: View Image Parents' birthplace: View Image Owned a radio: View Image Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio; Roll: 1763; Page: ; Enumeration District: 720; Image: 625.0. Moses Thomas Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1901 Michigan Fireman John Telling Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1881 Michigan Fireman Arthur Garant Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1879 Canada Steward John Garant Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1912 Wisconsin Cook Harold Armstrong Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1888 New York Chief Engineer William Best Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1891 Canada Oiler William Handy Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1898 Estonia Fireman

The proximity statement was my thought also. Some of the items on Ancestry refer to Lorain and Kathleen as a fundraiser for the YMCA and private parties for sororities. The info on Ray, which you sent, I too had plus what I was able to acquire form Amherstburg. The yahoo address is my alternate for that site due too spam. I know that he was in Milwaukee in 1932 per a newspaper article his son, Ridgley, had sent me. So he was still alive then. But Ridge never mentioned were or when he died in his letters or phone conversations. Ridge had returned to the US prior to his mothers death in 1996 and lived in Colorado after .Then returned to Germany, the home of his wife and where he had been for 40 yrs, where he died in Aug. 2003. His widow, never having had anything to do with his family let alone meet them before, just feels that she is back with her kin-leave it at that. Don't really blame her. She can live on his army pension quite comfortably in Germany. Ridge had also sent me a picture of Ray with Harry in front of the "Harry Coulby" and was initially a chef on board for the private guest's.One of whom, per the newspaper article, was Sir Henry Lipton. Eventually he became integral to Interlake, per these letters, in designing many of the fleet that Interlake owned.Also according to Ridge he chefed in the fine/est restaurants in Cleveland and New York. This he must have done off season. So there must be some record or source I could get into to that would give me more then what is on the net or already accumulated. Hence why Kathleen's obit may be the best resource--if I can find it. I'm sending you the following of the work I have done too date beyond the Rootsweb site your were at. http://www.nhb.com/hunter/Vanorder.pdf Robert Vanidour London Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <Etwistedsister89@aol.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Raymond & Kathleen VANIDOUR > In a message dated 2/10/2005 7:32:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, > rgvanidour@execulink.com writes: > I387 Name: Kathleen FOX Given Name: Kathleen Surname: Fox Sex: F > Birth: 16 JUL 1890 in Lorain,Ohio Death: 13 DEC 1996 in Lorain,Ohio > > the above is on ancestry.com on the "family tree" > > > But Lorain is So close and he did live in Cleveland in 1930 SO it seems we > have not tried the census or did you?? Anyway I found the below and some > interesting neighbors > Ray Vanidour {stone ship Amasa] berthed next to Colby ship I have saved > the image if you don't have it - I am finding it fascinating all these people > living on ships <G> > Eliz > Age: 42 > Estimated birth year: abt 1888 > Birthplace: Canada > Relation to head-of-house: Ship Keeper > Race: White > Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio > Family and neighbors: View Results > Occupation: View Image > Education: View Image > Military service: View Image > Rent/home value: View Image > Age at first marriage: View Image > Parents' birthplace: View Image > Owned a radio: View Image > Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio; Roll: > 1763; Page: ; Enumeration District: 720; Image: 625.0. > > > > > > > > > > > Moses Thomas Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1901 Michigan Fireman > John Telling Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1881 Michigan Fireman > Arthur Garant Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1879 Canada Steward > John Garant Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1912 Wisconsin Cook > Harold Armstrong Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1888 New York Chief Engineer > > William Best Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1891 Canada Oiler > William Handy Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1898 Estonia Fireman > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb website at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >