This has nothing to do with this posting but in reading your reply, I noticed you were having trouble sending mail to the list. I to have been trying to post to the list and it has been several hour ago and nothing has gone through. Is there a problem? I apologize for the duplication of my posting that hasn't appeared yet. Thanks, Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "leoandlinda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Live out-of-state and need help in Cuyahoga County? > Peggy's been finding some really terific stuff!! Good work, lady! > > I have just a little bit, but I have more questions <sorry grin>. > > I sent some of this to the list at about 1:00, and now after 7:00, it > still hasn't appeared in my inbox..... Usually takes a few minutes, > not many hours, so I suspect it may have gotten lost or delayed in > cyberspace. If the short original eventually shows up on the list, I > do apologize for the duplication. > > I'm repeating a couple of things so that the pieces can be next to > each other for comparison. > > Id#: 0277397 > Name: Phillips, Minnie > Date: Jun 29 1949 > Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #064. > Notes: Phillips, Minnie (nee Briscoe), 9110 Blaine Ave.; June 27; > beloved wife of Harry; mother of Howard Bernard Phillips, Maybelle > Luis of Cleveland, Charlotte Hendricks of Los Angeles, Cal. Friends > may call at the House of Wills, where funeral services will be > conducied Thursday at 2:30 p. m. Interment Evergreen Memorial Park. > > Id#: 0671684 > Name: Phillips, Howard B. > Date: Jun 8 1968 > Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #144. > Notes: Phillips. Howard B. Phillips, dear husband of Maude, father of > Lois Moore of Los Angeles and Douglas, brother of Sharlotte Mosby of > Los Angeles and Mabel Luis, grandfather and uncle. Services Monday 1 > P. M. at Antioch Baptist Church. Family will receive friends at The E. > F. Boyd and Son Funeral Home, 2165 E. 89th St. On Sunday 7-9 P. M. > > Allowing for some variants in the girls' names [Charlotte/Sharlotte > would be Lottie in the 1910 census and Mabel/Maybelle would have been > our Mabel G in that census], this clearly seems to be son Howard. > > *The most exciting for clues on finding living relatives are:* > > It is likely that Mrs. Mabel (Phillips) Luis and her brother Howard's > son Douglas Phillips were somewhere roughly around the Cleveland area > as late as 1968, although possibly not in Cleveland itself. > > Mrs. Charlotte (Phillips) Hendricks was already in Los Angeles in > 1949. She later married someone named Mosby before 1968. And > Howard's daughter Mrs Lois (Phillips) Moore was in Los Angeles before > 1968. Both families were undoubtedly in contact out there. > > Howard's obit says he is 'grandfather and uncle'. So either son > Douglas or daughter Lois, or both, had children. Also, at least one > of Howard's siblings had children. > > As late as 1968, at least part of the family was associated with > Antioch Baptist Church, probably on the near east side of Cleveland. > If this church still exists, there may be records of this family. For > that matter, family may still be members....... Contact the church. > > If Minnie was buried in Evergreen Memorial Park, there may been other > family burials there, including family we haven't stumbled across so > far. Contact the cemetery. > > Peggy found: >> In 1930, Harry L. Phillips was 64, >>and lived with his wife Minnie, and children, Lee B. Phillips, Charlotte >>D. >>Phillips, Jessie M. Phillips, as well as his brother-in-law, Corwin C. >>Gossett >>(meaning that Minnie's maiden name was probably Gossett). > Her obit said 'Briscoe', so Gossett may have been a half-brother. Or > Corwin Gossett may have been married to one of Minnie's sisters. Not > uncommon to have a relative move up, get settled in a job, and then > move the family. > >>could not find address book but did look back at ancestry.com in the 1910 >>Cuyhoga,ohio Cleveland ,ward 26-found harry lee phillips(49) ,minnie >>m.(40)Lee >>Bernard(21,Howard(17,Mabel G.(17)Lottie(5),Jessie(3) all listed as >>mulattoes.he was a contractor and bernard is an apprentice in masonry.the >>youngest 3 >>born in ohio ,the mother in pa.and i think the first 2 boys were born in >>va.so >>harry was born 1860 > > Yep, Harry L. was apparently born in the 1860s. Per the 1930 census, > he was b prox 1866. Per the 1910, he was b prox 1861. The later one > might be the most trustworthy....... Many a young man 'aged' by about > 5 years when he moved to the city on his own. > > > Miscellaneous questions: > > Must admit, I am curious about Jessie. She is in the census with her > folks in 1930 at age abt age 33, and yet is not mentioned in either > later obit. I suspect she may have died before Minnie, but that is > just an assumption. Some families do not include mentions of deceased > family members in obits. I just don't know. > > I am also wondering about possible Bernard confusions..... In the > 1910 census, there is an elder Lee Bernard and a younger Howard no > middle name. In the 1930 census, there is clearly a Lee B., about > 41. In Minnie's obit in 1949 there is a Howard Bernard, but no Lee > mentioned. I guess I am wondering if Lee Bernard had died between > 1930 and 1949, and if Howard had taken his older brother's use-name as > his middle name. > > It's not impossible that people named one son Lee Bernard and another > son Harold Bernard....... Just sets off a small red flag in my head > to be careful, I guess. The 'Bernard' in your dad's early address > book was likely to have been Lee Bernard, who went by Bernard. > Especially since he seemed to be still in and close with his parents > as an adult. But we still haven't found out about what happened to > Lee Bernard after 1930. > > Hope things go well in finding the nowadays folks. > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >