That 1910 Cleveland Township census bothers me. What make you sure it is him, as opposed to one of many other Andrew Fill's, when the age isn't even recorded (as far as I could tell)? And how do you know they didn't meet and get married in, say, New York? It sounds good to write the church, but I'd continue to check other scenarios out as well. Did you find a passenger list for her return to the U.S.? Do you know if she came alone or with her family? Names of her parents if she came with them? If she was here in 1910, we should be able to find her, and that's bugging me, not finding her then if she was here. Could have been with relatives while hubby was in that camp, if that was him. On 10/5/08, Ellyn <ellynf@mindspring.com> wrote: > Andro (Andrew) Fill came to US via Trieste in January 1906 on Francesca when > he was 19. Name on manifest is Andreas Ful (with an accent over the 'u') or > Fyl, or Fyil. Handwriting is very difficult to read. 1930 census shows age > at first marriage as 23 which tracks with the DOB I have for him of 10 Dec > 1886. Mary's DOB is different on almost every document; 1930 date of first > marriage is, of course, written over and could be anything from 16 - 20. > 1910 census has "Andy" Fill in Cleveland Township living in the Erie Railway > Construction Camp (taken April 27th) which does not jive with my marriage

I do not know that the 1910 Township census is our Andy but I do know he used that name and he had been in the US since 1906 and that he went directly to Ohio from New York as he had at least 1 older brother there at that time. His brother and/or brothers worked in the Steel Mills and the family legend is that Andy hated the steel mills so the railroad could be an alternate job. I agree that it bugs me that I can't find her in 1910. Pennsylvania is my wild card for the marriage as Mary/Maria's age is different on every document I find and range is 3-5 years. She could have been under age 16; I also believe she may have a brother or uncle who was a Russian Orthodox priest in PA and he could have married them in PA. I believe her parents are Eva Frensko (spelling could be one of several different ways) and Theodor Horbal (that name came from her death certificate). I believe her sibs are Andrew, Teckla and Bogdan but I don't know where I got those names from. I am in the process of going back through all these names/records and doing better source documentation. I have been unable to find passenger lists for her going back and forth but the name could be so many variations. -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of the cohens Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:30 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Marriage Records: Fill/Horbal 1909 That 1910 Cleveland Township census bothers me. What make you sure it is him, as opposed to one of many other Andrew Fill's, when the age isn't even recorded (as far as I could tell)? And how do you know they didn't meet and get married in, say, New York? It sounds good to write the church, but I'd continue to check other scenarios out as well. Did you find a passenger list for her return to the U.S.? Do you know if she came alone or with her family? Names of her parents if she came with them? If she was here in 1910, we should be able to find her, and that's bugging me, not finding her then if she was here. Could have been with relatives while hubby was in that camp, if that was him. On 10/5/08, Ellyn <ellynf@mindspring.com> wrote: > Andro (Andrew) Fill came to US via Trieste in January 1906 on Francesca when > he was 19. Name on manifest is Andreas Ful (with an accent over the 'u') or > Fyl, or Fyil. Handwriting is very difficult to read. 1930 census shows age > at first marriage as 23 which tracks with the DOB I have for him of 10 Dec > 1886. Mary's DOB is different on almost every document; 1930 date of first > marriage is, of course, written over and could be anything from 16 - 20. > 1910 census has "Andy" Fill in Cleveland Township living in the Erie Railway > Construction Camp (taken April 27th) which does not jive with my marriage ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message