Dear listers: I am needing some assistance: I found 3 graves in the Willoughby Village Cemetery: Phoebe Clements died Dec 29 1862 age 9+ child of Wm and M Clements Sarah Clements died Dec 30 1862 age 3+ child of Wm and M Clements then Herbert Clements died January 13, 1863 age 2yrs child of J and M Clements I believe these poor little folks to be the children of 2 Clements brothers: John and William who came from Warwickshire between 1854 and 1860? I found a William "Clemens" family at Euclid, Cuyahoga, in 1860 and the two daughters are there. but I cannot find John and Mary Clements and their 2 children: Mary Elizabeth [b. about 1856] and Edward [born about 1859] anywhere. The two brothers have naturalization cards from Cleveland in 1863. I hope someone can guide me for the following: 1. find John and Mary Clements [Clemens?] somewhere nearby? in 1860? 2. how can I find the births of these children? between 1856 and 1863? thanks and looking forward to your help, Liz of BC Canada

A search at http://freebmd.org.uk yielded a few possible births for which you could order records for more information. The dates are : Registered Apr-May-Jun 1852 Clements Phoebe District: Faversham Vol: 2a Page: 495 Registered Apr-May-Jun 1853 Clements Phoebe W District: Bromwich Vol: 6b Page: 523 I would make sure John and Mary are not in the British Census for 1861 before hunting for them here, unless you know for sure they arrived before 1860. There is a Maria Elizabeth at freebmd in 1856, who may not be yours: Registered July-Aug-Sep 1856 Clements Maria Elizabeth District: Bethnal Green Vol: 1c Pg: 248 And many Mary's, Elizabeths, and Edward's, but you didn't say if these latter were likely to be born in the UK or here, so I'll let you check freeBMD for other entries yourself. Just be sure to click on "Search FreeBMD" instead of filling in the boxes in the advertizement. On 11/29/08, harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> wrote: > Dear listers: > > I am needing some assistance: I found 3 graves in the Willoughby > Village Cemetery: > > Phoebe Clements died Dec 29 1862 age 9+ child of Wm and M Clements > Sarah Clements died Dec 30 1862 age 3+ child of Wm and M Clements > > then Herbert Clements died January 13, 1863 age 2yrs child of J and M > Clements > > I believe these poor little folks to be the children of 2 Clements > brothers: John and William who came from Warwickshire between 1854 and > 1860? > > I found a William "Clemens" family at Euclid, Cuyahoga, in 1860 and the > two daughters are there. but I cannot find John and Mary Clements and > their 2 children: Mary Elizabeth [b. about 1856] > and Edward [born about 1859] anywhere. > The two brothers have naturalization cards from Cleveland in 1863. > > I hope someone can guide me for the following: > 1. find John and Mary Clements [Clemens?] somewhere nearby? in 1860? >...