Hi, I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out. No disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis. They were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892. William was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875. I'm reasonably sure it was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin. A year later, their first child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having three more children born there. One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also emigrated in 1875. I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic. Was Saint John's a big draw for marriages? My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York city. Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she has the school wrong? Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in 1890-92 like a tax list? Only if we had the 1890 census. Thanks for any help, Curt Rowe

I'd also suggest you look at the city directories, but don't put 100% faith on the years they are included in the directories. I found myself still listed in one directory 3 years after I moved 1000 miles away. You might also check for newspaper accounts of their marriage - in Cleveland and in their hometowns. These may offer a clue as to why they married where they did. If those aren't available check for an article reporting an anniversary (25th, 50th) in a local newspaper. If you don't already have it, you might check the actual entry in the church records to see if there was a notation regarding their places of residence. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#CATHOLIC. Have you checked for a marriage license record in Cuyahoga County? This should also include their residences at the time the license was issued. An index to licenses from 1810 through April 1998 can be found at http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/. More details regarding this index and how to obtain a free copy of the record can be found at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhMarIndx.html. I did a search and found a William W Rowe and a Katherine F Davis in the index. Nancy At 01:09 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > > > >I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out. No >disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to >get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my >great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis. They >were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892. William >was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875. I'm reasonably sure it >was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin. A year later, their first >child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having >three more children born there. > > > >One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. >The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also >emigrated in 1875. I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they >were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. > > > >Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic. Was Saint >John's a big draw for marriages? > > > >My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York >city. Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she >has the school wrong? > > > >Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in >1890-92 like a tax list? Only if we had the 1890 census. > > > >Thanks for any help, > >Curt Rowe > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not situated in Ohio. Can anyone offer thoughts as to the best online resource(s) to use to check for local newspaper articles regarding Cleveland, Cuyahoga happenings (e.g. marriages etc.). I am not so interested in contemporary news articles as I am in those that were written ca. 1870-1950. I have used www.newspaperarchive.com, available through my local library, for locations other than Cuyahoga Co, but unfortunately Cleveland papers are not included in the website's database. Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Archdekin" <archde.omaha@cox.net> To: <ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > You might also check for newspaper accounts of their marriage - in > Cleveland and in their hometowns. These may offer a clue as to why > they married where they did. If those aren't available check for an > article reporting an anniversary (25th, 50th) in a local newspaper. > Nancy

Oh my yes there is a well known music school to the west of Cleveland, Oberlin Music Conservatory is the oldest operating such institution in the US!  Founded 1892  Next to Julliard this may be the best known such school in the US   http://new.oberlin.edu/conservatory/at-a-glance.dot   In addition Baldwin Wallace located about 10 SW of Cleveland has a conservatory but it was not founded until 1899   http://www.bw.edu/academics/conservatory/about/ Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio       --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: From: Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? To: OHCUYAHO@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:09 PM Hi, I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out.  No disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis.  They were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892.  William was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875.  I'm reasonably sure it was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin.  A year later, their first child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having three more children born there. One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also emigrated in 1875.  I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic.  Was Saint John's a big draw for marriages? My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York city.  Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she has the school wrong? Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in 1890-92 like a tax list?  Only if we had the 1890 census.  Thanks for any help, Curt Rowe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Curt, there are lots of wonderful city directories for Cleveland at Footnote.com Eliz On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out.  No > disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to > get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my > great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis.  They > were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892.  William > was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875.  I'm reasonably sure it > was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin.  A year later, their first > child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having > three more children born there. > > > > One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. > The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also > emigrated in 1875.  I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they > were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. > > > > Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic.  Was Saint > John's a big draw for marriages? > > > > My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York > city.  Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she > has the school wrong? > > > > Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in > 1890-92 like a tax list?  Only if we had the 1890 census. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Curt Rowe > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Licensed to Marry William W. Rowe and Katherine Davis 1892-08-02; Paper: Plain Dealer Also found this: Date: 1892-07-06; Paper: Plain Dealer O.N.G. Guard Officers Commissioned Columbus, July 5 (Special) The Following commissions were issued to day by Adjutant General Pocock:..... David M. Rowe ...... first lieutennants Company G, Third infantry, Dayton;

Thanks for taking the time to look. Curt -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:24 PM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? Licensed to Marry William W. Rowe and Katherine Davis 1892-08-02; Paper: Plain Dealer Also found this: Date: 1892-07-06; Paper: Plain Dealer O.N.G. Guard Officers Commissioned Columbus, July 5 (Special) The Following commissions were issued to day by Adjutant General Pocock:..... David M. Rowe ...... first lieutennants Company G, Third infantry, Dayton; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What site did you find the Plain Dealer information? Do you know what years are covered? Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Susan <myheritage@sbcglobal.net> To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2010 6:23 pm Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? Licensed to Marry William W. Rowe and Katherine Davis 1892-08-02; Paper: Plain Dealer Also found this: Date: 1892-07-06; Paper: Plain Dealer O.N.G. Guard Officers Commissioned Columbus, July 5 (Special) The Following commissions were issued to day by Adjutant General Pocock:..... David M. Rowe ...... first lieutennants Company G, Third infantry, Dayton; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the mess

http://www.genealogybank.com --- On Tue, 1/26/10, bhurst1948@aol.com <bhurst1948@aol.com> wrote: From: bhurst1948@aol.com <bhurst1948@aol.com> Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:30 PM What site did you find the Plain Dealer information?  Do you know what years are covered? Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: Susan <myheritage@sbcglobal.net> To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2010 6:23 pm Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? Licensed to Marry William W. Rowe and Katherine Davis 1892-08-02; Paper: Plain Dealer Also found this: Date: 1892-07-06; Paper: Plain Dealer O.N.G. Guard Officers Commissioned Columbus, July 5 (Special) The Following commissions were issued to day by Adjutant General Pocock:..... David M. Rowe ...... first lieutennants Company G, Third infantry, Dayton; ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the mess ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You don't say what your ggfather did for a living. That may be why he was in Cleveland. Where were Catherine Davis' parents living at the time of their marriage? Maybe they were in Cleveland. The cornerstone for St. John's Cathedral was laid in 1848 and work on the Gothic style church was completed in 1852. It also housed a school. It is a gorgeous church. As for music schools, the Cleveland Music School Settlement was founded in 1912 and the Cleveland Institute of Music in 1920. All of the above information on these sites is online. You can also Google "The Encyclopedia of Cleveland History" and find out lots about Cleveland institutions there by using the index and searching alphabetically. Nancy L. -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Curt Rowe Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:10 PM To: OHCUYAHO@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? Hi, I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out. No disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis. They were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892. William was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875. I'm reasonably sure it was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin. A year later, their first child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having three more children born there. One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also emigrated in 1875. I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic. Was Saint John's a big draw for marriages? My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York city. Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she has the school wrong? Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in 1890-92 like a tax list? Only if we had the 1890 census. Thanks for any help, Curt Rowe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are city directories for Cleveland. Some are at Ancestry.com but I don't know the years off the top of my head. As to why they went to Cleveland, some things simply cannot be explained. The couple I search got married in Lake County when both lived in Cleveland/Cuyahoga. We will never know why. Lila > From: amroots@zetcho.com > To: OHCUYAHO@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:09:47 -0800 > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > > Hi, > > > > I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out. No > disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to > get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my > great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis. They > were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892. William > was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875. I'm reasonably sure it > was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin. A year later, their first > child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having > three more children born there. > > > > One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. > The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also > emigrated in 1875. I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they > were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. > > > > Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic. Was Saint > John's a big draw for marriages? > > > > My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York > city. Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she > has the school wrong? > > > > Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in > 1890-92 like a tax list? Only if we had the 1890 census. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Curt Rowe > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message