I just got the marriage affidavit from Cuyahoga County described below. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me anything more that the marriage certificate or that I already know. It attests that the groom is at least 21 and the bride is at least 18, that they aren't currently married to anyone else, and that they are no closer than 2nd cousins in relation. It contains the date of the license and the date of the marriage on the return. I did get the grooms signature. It's also signed by the person who married them and the clerk. If the groom or bride were under age, there may be a different affidavit. I still trying to get through to the cathedral where they were married, but my emails have bounced or haven't been responded to. -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Archdekin Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:52 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? I'd also suggest you look at the city directories, but don't put 100% faith on the years they are included in the directories. I found myself still listed in one directory 3 years after I moved 1000 miles away. You might also check for newspaper accounts of their marriage - in Cleveland and in their hometowns. These may offer a clue as to why they married where they did. If those aren't available check for an article reporting an anniversary (25th, 50th) in a local newspaper. If you don't already have it, you might check the actual entry in the church records to see if there was a notation regarding their places of residence. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#CATH OLIC. Have you checked for a marriage license record in Cuyahoga County? This should also include their residences at the time the license was issued. An index to licenses from 1810 through April 1998 can be found at http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/. More details regarding this index and how to obtain a free copy of the record can be found at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhMarIndx.html. I did a search and found a William W Rowe and a Katherine F Davis in the index. Nancy At 01:09 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > > > >I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out. No >disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to >get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my >great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis. They >were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892. William >was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875. I'm reasonably sure it >was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin. A year later, their first >child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having >three more children born there. > > > >One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. >The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also >emigrated in 1875. I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they >were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. > > > >Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic. Was Saint >John's a big draw for marriages? > > > >My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York >city. Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she >has the school wrong? > > > >Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in >1890-92 like a tax list? Only if we had the 1890 census. > > > >Thanks for any help, > >Curt Rowe > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you contacted The Diocesan Archives? They have an online form for information requests. I know they are very helpful. At the bottom of the web you will see a link to an online form http://dioceseofcleveland.org/communications/archiveform.htm I don't know that you will find any more info than that which you have already. Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio http://www.croatianmuseum.com/index.php    --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: > From: Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 6:37 PM > I just got the marriage affidavit > from Cuyahoga County described below. > Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me anything more that the > marriage > certificate or that I already know. It attests that the > groom is at least 21 > and the bride is at least 18, that they aren't currently > married to anyone > else, and that they are no closer than 2nd cousins in > relation. It contains > the date of the license and the date of the marriage on the > return.  I did > get the grooms signature. It's also signed by the person > who married them > and the clerk.  If the groom or bride were under age, > there may be a > different affidavit. > > I still trying to get through to the cathedral where they > were married, but > my emails have bounced or haven't been responded to. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Nancy Archdekin > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:52 AM > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > > I'd also suggest you look at the city directories, but > don't put 100% > faith on the years they are included in the directories. I > found > myself still listed in one directory 3 years after I moved > 1000 miles away. > > You might also check for newspaper accounts of their > marriage - in > Cleveland and in their hometowns. These may offer a clue as > to why > they married where they did. If those aren't available > check for an > article reporting an anniversary (25th, 50th) in a local > newspaper. > > If you don't already have it, you might check the actual > entry in the > church records to see if there was a notation regarding > their places > of residence. See > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#CATH > OLIC. > > Have you checked for a marriage license record in Cuyahoga > County? > This should also include their residences at the time the > license was > issued. An index to licenses from 1810 through April 1998 > can be > found at http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/. > More details regarding > this index and how to obtain a free copy of the record can > be found > at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhMarIndx.html. > > I did a search and found a William W Rowe and a Katherine F > Davis in the > index. > > Nancy > > At 01:09 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > > > > > >I just joined the list to see you could help me figure > something out.  No > >disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to > travel some distance to > >get married there? I have a copy of the original > marriage license for my > >great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride > Catherine Davis.  They > >were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on > 2 Aug 1892.  William > >was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875.  > I'm reasonably sure it > >was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin.  A > year later, their first > >child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the > 1900 census having > >three more children born there. > > > > > > > >One possible answer is that William had a brother, > David Rowe, living > there. > >The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for > Cleveland and also > >emigrated in 1875.  I'm currently trying to find > more evidence that they > >were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the > moment. > > > > > > > >Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been > Catholic.  Was Saint > >John's a big draw for marriages? > > > > > > > >My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, > which is in New York > >city.  Is there any well known music schools in > Cleveland in the event she > >has the school wrong? > > > > > > > >Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence > in the city in > >1890-92 like a tax list?  Only if we had the 1890 > census. > > > > > > > >Thanks for any help, > > > >Curt Rowe > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >