Oh EXCELLENT find! Thanks. I had found some postcards on Ebay that showed the park but couldn't figure out where that it was located because it didn't look like Edgewater or any of the other parks I am familiar with. Guess this is just more of Cleveland's lost history. Sandy On 10 Nov 2008 at 23:02, Patricia Cornacchione wrote: > Go to http://www.railsandtrails.com/Cleveland/index.html and scroll > down to "1894 Souvenir Map of Cleveland, Lake Shore & Michigan > Southern Railway." Click on the name of the map; in the next screen > click on the righthand image of the map itself. You will get a > magnifier which will help you find the park along the lake shore in > sections C5/C6. According to patcle67857's excellent response, the > park ran along the shore of Lake Erie between Erie and Bank Streets. > These are now East 9th Street and what appears to be West 6th Street. > The map, however, makes it appear to run between Erie (E. 9) and > Seneca (W. 3) Streets. It looks to me as if this park was the > precursor of what became the Donald Gray Gardens and Boudreau Blvd., > between the old Cleveland Municipal Stadium and the lake. > > Edgewater (west side) and Gordon (east side) Parks are different from > this park. > > Pat C. in Cleveland > > ohcuyaho-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:03:30 -0500 > > From: "Sandy Rozhon" <srozhon@oh.rr.com> > > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Lake View Park > > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <4912CF02.27962.A0EA46@srozhon.oh.rr.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > > Can anyone tell me the exact location of Lake View Park in > > Cleveland? > > I'm not talking about the cemetery, but rather a park that > > overlooked Lake Erie around 1900. Was this an earlier name for > > Edgewater? Or Gordon Park? > > > > Sandy > > > > <<snip>> > > > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:50:35 -0500 > > From: <patcle67857@peoplepc.com> > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Lake View Park > > To: <ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <78BC9C256AC941159D81EF3641A4E4DA@Sweetheart> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Hello all, > > The following was taken from "The Jubilee Edition of the Cleveland > > Wachter und Anzeiger, 1902"; translated from the German by Steven > > Rowan for the Western Reserve Historical Society, 2000. > > > > "Lake View Park: Passing to the west, we reach Lake View Park, > > which begins at Erie Street and runs along the humming rail line of > > the L.S. & M.S. Railroad to Bank Street. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: > 11/10/2008 7:53 AM > >

Go to http://www.railsandtrails.com/Cleveland/index.html and scroll down to "1894 Souvenir Map of Cleveland, Lake Shore & Michigan Southern Railway." Click on the name of the map; in the next screen click on the righthand image of the map itself. You will get a magnifier which will help you find the park along the lake shore in sections C5/C6. According to patcle67857's excellent response, the park ran along the shore of Lake Erie between Erie and Bank Streets. These are now East 9th Street and what appears to be West 6th Street. The map, however, makes it appear to run between Erie (E. 9) and Seneca (W. 3) Streets. It looks to me as if this park was the precursor of what became the Donald Gray Gardens and Boudreau Blvd., between the old Cleveland Municipal Stadium and the lake. Edgewater (west side) and Gordon (east side) Parks are different from this park. Pat C. in Cleveland ohcuyaho-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:03:30 -0500 > From: "Sandy Rozhon" <srozhon@oh.rr.com> > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Lake View Park > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4912CF02.27962.A0EA46@srozhon.oh.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Can anyone tell me the exact location of Lake View Park in Cleveland? > I'm not talking about the cemetery, but rather a park that > overlooked Lake Erie around 1900. Was this an earlier name for > Edgewater? Or Gordon Park? > > Sandy > > <<snip>> > > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:50:35 -0500 > From: <patcle67857@peoplepc.com> > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Lake View Park > To: <ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <78BC9C256AC941159D81EF3641A4E4DA@Sweetheart> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello all, > The following was taken from "The Jubilee Edition of the Cleveland Wachter > und Anzeiger, 1902"; translated from the German by Steven Rowan for the > Western Reserve Historical Society, 2000. > > "Lake View Park: Passing to the west, we reach Lake View Park, which begins > at Erie Street and runs along the humming rail line of the L.S. & M.S. > Railroad to Bank Street.

An ancestral cousin of mine claims to be the youngest City Councilman in Cleveland. Does anyone know anything about councilmen and if Oscar was even on the City Council? Eliz One of my cousins has the below on his tree http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=060806&id=I0289 Found Retirement Too Strenuous, So Oscar Still Runs Shop Can't Sell His "Town Hall" In Election Year By Scotty McLeod About 1940 HOPKINTON—<snip> Born in Cleveland on "ground Hog Day, 1854," Mr. Lewis came to Delaware County with his parents two years later. The family settled on a farm purchased from the government between Hopkinton and Delhi in the Upper Buck Creek neighborhood. He attended Hopkinton schools until 1870 when the family moved back to Cleveland. SOLD HORSE TO JOHN D. He was in the real estate business, ran a pool hall and liquor business, a printing business, found time to serve on the city council (Mr. Lewis claims he at 27, was the youngest councilman Cleveland ever had) and was a friend of a man named John D. Rockefeller. During the period that Rockefeller was acquiring his Pennsylvania oil properties, Mr. Lewis sold him a black mare, a standardbred trotter. <snip

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Hello Fellow Reasearchers, I want to point out that although a researcher might not have family in the area covered by the obituaries at the center, it should still be considered while looking because I've found people mentioned that had no connection with counties they have on the list. For instance when sending for HOGAN information related to the Erie County area I received an article that contained news from Cleveland and sited death news from Schenectady N.Y., Jewett, Harrison, Ohio and Painesville, Lake, Ohio. None of these places including Cuyahoga are listed as in the counties that the center reports having obituaries from. The article not only tells me the names of these deceased but the manner in which they died. All were listed in the Sandusky Register in 1924. It maybe unlikely that your surname will be found but it's worth the look. Thanks, Cindy

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I would love to know some of the places mentioned--if you have the time. I seem to get 'stuck' giving classes-etc. and any new ideas are appreciated. Kathy Carey Illinois  Save the Earth--- It's the ONLY planet with chocolate! --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Cynthia C Turk <cynthia.turk@juno.com> wrote: From: Cynthia C Turk <cynthia.turk@juno.com> Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Finding Records in Unusual Places To: eastcuyahoga@yahoogroups.com, members@neocag.net, OHCAGG-L@rootsweb.com, ohcuyaho-L@rootsweb.com, OHGEAUGA-L@rootsweb.com, OHLAKE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 12:48 PM Saturday 8 November 2008 9:00 am -12:30 pm NorthEast Ohio Computer-Aided Genealogy Society (NEOCAG) holds its regular meeting. Sandy Malitz will present "Finding Records in Unusual Places." Please join us for our sessions and genealogy program user groups. Only $1.00 cover charge for nonmembers. Easy to find - St. Bartholomew Church, 435 SOM Center Road in Mayfield across from the water park. See you Saturday! Cynthia Turk 440-951-0914 http://neocag.net ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mDcGG6UCYl8gneZXATzZ0aCojUM1ZeM2Ab14N5nQSPOOyI5/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, The following was taken from "The Jubilee Edition of the Cleveland Wachter und Anzeiger, 1902"; translated from the German by Steven Rowan for the Western Reserve Historical Society, 2000. "Lake View Park: Passing to the west, we reach Lake View Park, which begins at Erie Street and runs along the humming rail line of the L.S. & M.S. Railroad to Bank Street. This is more of a promenade than a park. It has an area of 10 acres, drawn along Summit Street, falling in a gentle slope, penetrated by roads and foot paths, to the rail line. Unfortunately, the vegetation in many cases has developed in an unfortunate way, since the eternal smoke from the stacks of the locomotives ruins all plant life. Correspondingly the appearance of the park is depressing, varying from black to gray. The little trees look crooked, and they will never grow to full size. "The sparse bushes have little value, and since there is no shadow in Lake View Park, visiting the park is depressing. Added to this is the fact that the park is inhabited by persons of low repute, so that it is often dangerous to remain there after dark. The park is not exactly an attractive piece of land, and the only attractive part is the pond with its harmless dragon and the nearby bridge. The rail line going north has degenerated into a common nuisance, and the eternal racket and smoke of locomotives make lingering in the park almost impossible. If it ever does come to pass that the Lake Shore line alters its entry into the city, then perhaps Lake View Park can become something, but not before then." Edgewater Park is listed as being located at Lake Avenue and Lake Erie with an attached Edgewater Parkway and Edgewater Park Boulevard consisting of almost 300 acres. Lake View Park was its own entity. Hope this helps, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Rozhon" <srozhon@oh.rr.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Lake View Park > Can anyone tell me the exact location of Lake View Park in Cleveland? > I'm not talking about the cemetery, but rather a park that > overlooked Lake Erie around 1900. Was this an earlier name for > Edgewater? Or Gordon Park? > > Sandy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Can anyone tell me the exact location of Lake View Park in Cleveland? I'm not talking about the cemetery, but rather a park that overlooked Lake Erie around 1900. Was this an earlier name for Edgewater? Or Gordon Park? Sandy

I'm searching for information about Mary Sue MONCRIEF, who married Kenneth R. SHELDON in Cuyahoga County. They had 2 daughters--Dorothy Mae, born circa 1952 and Cindy Sue, born circa 1957. Kenneth died in Nov 1963 in St. Louis and is buried there at Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery. Any information about this family would be appreciated.

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The site opened on my computer. Email me off list and I will send a copy of the .pdf file to you. Al, Thank you for sharing this with all of us! I don't know if I have any relatives buried in that cemetery, I did have a number of relatives in Kenmore, NY (as well as in Cleveland, OH too), so this is "reel" cool to see! Thank You Anne Ruggeri Brewerton, NY **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)

This site will not open on my cumputer. Auntie1m@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al W" <birds@roadrunner.com> To: <OHCUYAHO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:31 AM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] View-Master reels of cemetery scenes - information to share and wanted Cc: >I posted this a month or so ago and before removing the document from > my FTP site, I want to give everyone a final chance to access it. I > will leave it there till the end of November. > > You probably know about View-Master, the 3D picture toy with the > round reels and viewer to watch them with. They have been around in > one form or another since the 1938. > > What is less well known is that around 1940 the company issued three > reels of cemetery scenes which were used for marketing and not sold > to the general public. The first two reels have scenes I have > identified as taken in Emlawn Cemetery in a small town near Buffalo > New York. Now I am trying to find where the scenes on the third reel > were taken. Since they include scenes of a chapel exterior and > interior and the business office at the time, there is hope. > > Here is a link to a pdf document on what I know about these reels: > > http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/publish/alwooden/Auctions/View_Master_Emlawn_Draft5.pdf > > If you have any further information on these reels, please let me > know. Also, I am a collector of View-Master items, so if you have > anything sold by or related to the company that you would like to > turn into cash, email me. > > Al Woodcock > Cleveland, Ohio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I am looking for few volunteers willing to take grave photos at the following Cleveland, Ohio area cemeteries: 1. Bet Olam Cemetery, Beachwood; 2. Lansing Cemetery, Cleveland; 3. Ridge Road Cemetery, Cleveland; 4. Warrensville West Cemetery, Shaker Heights; 5. Zion Memorial Park, Bedford Heights. 6. Mayfield Cemetery, Cleveland I have specific grave locations. Please email me privately for specific grave locations Thank you! Shelly selsi1098@gmail.com Cleveland: BERKA, BERMAN, BLAZ, CHESSIN, DAVIS, ELSON, FABER/FARBER, FABRYTZKI, FINE, FROMSON, GABELMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG, KOTOFSKY, KUREJWOWSKY, KURSON, KWAIT, LANGUS, LEFELMAN, LEVIN, LIPOFF, LIPOWICZ, MILEWICZ, MILLER, NAFTULIN, NUDEL, NUDELMAN, RABINOWITZ, SALKIN, SHAPIRO, SPERO, SHIFFMAN, SILVERSTEIN, SOLNIK, SUMERFELD, TUSHMAN, WILKOFF, WILKOFSKY, WITKEWICZ,

I posted this a month or so ago and before removing the document from my FTP site, I want to give everyone a final chance to access it. I will leave it there till the end of November. You probably know about View-Master, the 3D picture toy with the round reels and viewer to watch them with. They have been around in one form or another since the 1938. What is less well known is that around 1940 the company issued three reels of cemetery scenes which were used for marketing and not sold to the general public. The first two reels have scenes I have identified as taken in Emlawn Cemetery in a small town near Buffalo New York. Now I am trying to find where the scenes on the third reel were taken. Since they include scenes of a chapel exterior and interior and the business office at the time, there is hope. Here is a link to a pdf document on what I know about these reels: http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/publish/alwooden/Auctions/View_Master_Emlawn_Draft5.pdf If you have any further information on these reels, please let me know. Also, I am a collector of View-Master items, so if you have anything sold by or related to the company that you would like to turn into cash, email me. Al Woodcock Cleveland, Ohio

Pat, Thank you very much for your help on the libraries. I really appreciate your input. Judy

Judy, come down to Pearl and State Roads. Look at a map and you will see where these two streets intersect. (they are a little ways from Metro, but right up West 25th until it becomes Pearl--actually it is the same street but it changes its name once you go over the freeway bridge.) At this intersection is the South Brooklyn Branch library. A whole lot better with a parking lot, albeit small. Try to get there at 9:30 am (when it opens) to use a computer. (If you can't do this, go to the Cleveland Public Library website to get the phone number, branch information, etc. Call to make an appointment to use a computer. There are time limits, so plan your research) This is the branch I use and I like it. I also use the Cuyahoga County Library at Snow Road near Broadview. Again, you will have to look at a map. The South Brooklyn branch library get crowded very early on, but I think you will feel comfortable there. It is small with little room to spread out your notes. Stay away from Fulton, South and the Brooklyn branch libraries. They get a lot of school children during the day and in the evening hours the computer are all taken by teenagers--no exception. Hope this helps. Yours, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bluetea54@aol.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:45 PM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland libraries > Forgive me for being slightly off-topic. > I am looking for a library that is close to Metro Health Systems near W > 25. > It appears that the Fulton Branch and the Brooklyn Branch are close by. > Is anyone familiar with either of these? > All I need is computer access and a neighborhood where I will not be > afraid > to get out of my car. > Thank you > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message