Interesting... my wife's Grandfather who was born 1890 told tales about fighting Indians in PA... funny stories Robert Jerin Click below to see my May 2009 Croatia tour http://www.kollander-travel.com/media/jerincroatia09.pdf --- On Sun, 11/30/08, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] how did folks arrive at Ohio from Britain 1850s? To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 9:11 AM Robert, Hmmm. It was not necessarily in Ohio, but in the mountains en route to or from there to or from the Oil fields in Pennsylvania. Maybe I have the decades mixed up, it sounded a bit strange. I don't have an exact year, was guessing based on other facts, which would make it after 1870. Maybe they were just needlessly afraid. Have not been able to go further back with this as we don't have the names of William B. LICHTIG's parents yet, and they would be the adults involved. I got his marriage license, and it sadly had no names of parents on it. But, thank you for that great explanation of how people chose a mode of travel. It's quite helpful On 11/30/08, Robert Jerin <rjerin26@yahoo.com> wrote: > The last Indians\ tribe left Ohio c 1843 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Robert, Hmmm. It was not necessarily in Ohio, but in the mountains en route to or from there to or from the Oil fields in Pennsylvania. Maybe I have the decades mixed up, it sounded a bit strange. I don't have an exact year, was guessing based on other facts, which would make it after 1870. Maybe they were just needlessly afraid. Have not been able to go further back with this as we don't have the names of William B. LICHTIG's parents yet, and they would be the adults involved. I got his marriage license, and it sadly had no names of parents on it. But, thank you for that great explanation of how people chose a mode of travel. It's quite helpful On 11/30/08, Robert Jerin <rjerin26@yahoo.com> wrote: > The last Indians\ tribe left Ohio c 1843 >
Marge: In the Ohio Death Index I found an Eleanor Mette from Parma Heights died on 2 Nov 1972. She was born abt. 1893 and died at home. David --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Momjeep@aol.com <Momjeep@aol.com> wrote: > From: Momjeep@aol.com <Momjeep@aol.com> > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Looking for two obits > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 8:31 PM > Hello, > > I am looking for two obits: > > Herbert B. METTE dod Dec 7 1976 > > and > > Eleanor C. METTE dod Nov 2 1976 > > both are listed as living in Parma Heights OH > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Marge > **************Life should be easier. So should your > homepage. Try the NEW > AOL.com. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message
The last Indians\ tribe left Ohio c 1843 Robert Jerin Click below to see my May 2009 Croatia tour http://www.kollander-travel.com/media/jerincroatia09.pdf --- On Sun, 11/30/08, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] how did folks arrive at Ohio from Britain 1850s? To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 1:54 AM Obviously from England to America by boat. Whether or not they continued by boat further inland, families could travel by covered wagon. I would guess since one of my families did that in the 1870's, going from Cleveland to Pennsylvania, that it was a common mode of transportation before the railways became used more for long hauls. The wagon broke down, and rather than take the time to fix it, the family split up into different wagons with other people and left much behind rather than risk getting "attacked by Indians." On 11/29/08, harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> wrote: > Dear listers: > > I wonder if someone has stories of how folks came from Britain in 1850s > and how they got to Ohio? especially Euclid township? > > Would they have travelled by boat to the northern Ohio shore? or some > other means? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Of course once the Erie canal (1825) and the Wellend Canal (1829) this would have been the prefered (faster) method of travel. By the 1820s Ohio towns and villages were connected by rail and by the 1850s interstate rail was in use and this would have been faster than traveling on oft times muddy "roads" or by canal. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?gmd:13:./temp/~ammem_taCF:: And I know that when my ancestors came from Croatia and from Belgium that a rail ticket to their destination was purchased in Europe, this was between 1891 and 1905 (Croatia) and in 1907 (Belgium) Robert Jerin Click below to see my May 2009 Croatia tour http://www.kollander-travel.com/media/jerincroatia09.pdf --- On Sat, 11/29/08, harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> wrote: From: harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> Subject: [OHCUYAHO] how did folks arrive at Ohio from Britain 1850s? To: OHCUYAHO@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 10:19 PM Dear listers: I wonder if someone has stories of how folks came from Britain in 1850s and how they got to Ohio? especially Euclid township? Would they have travelled by boat to the northern Ohio shore? or some other means? thanks Liz of BC Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Once reaching America through one of the many ports of Baltimore or NYC, many traveled by wagon to OH and points beyond. Some even took the trip on foot. However, many also would travel as far as Buffalo, NY and then depart from there via Lake Erie. Buffalo, NY, at the time, was considered one of the gateways to the west for many years in the mid-1800's. The Erie Canal terminus was located in Buffalo, NY and it was a major port in our country at the time. the cohens wrote: > Obviously from England to America by boat. Whether or not they > continued by boat further inland, families could travel by covered > wagon. I would guess since one of my families did that in the > 1870's, going from Cleveland to Pennsylvania, that it was a common > mode of transportation before the railways became used more for long > hauls. > > The wagon broke down, and rather than take the time to fix it, the > family split up into different wagons with other people and left much > behind rather than risk getting "attacked by Indians." > > On 11/29/08, harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Dear listers: >> >> I wonder if someone has stories of how folks came from Britain in 1850s >> and how they got to Ohio? especially Euclid township? >> >> Would they have travelled by boat to the northern Ohio shore? or some >> other means? >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Obviously from England to America by boat. Whether or not they continued by boat further inland, families could travel by covered wagon. I would guess since one of my families did that in the 1870's, going from Cleveland to Pennsylvania, that it was a common mode of transportation before the railways became used more for long hauls. The wagon broke down, and rather than take the time to fix it, the family split up into different wagons with other people and left much behind rather than risk getting "attacked by Indians." On 11/29/08, harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> wrote: > Dear listers: > > I wonder if someone has stories of how folks came from Britain in 1850s > and how they got to Ohio? especially Euclid township? > > Would they have travelled by boat to the northern Ohio shore? or some > other means?
A search at http://freebmd.org.uk yielded a few possible births for which you could order records for more information. The dates are : Registered Apr-May-Jun 1852 Clements Phoebe District: Faversham Vol: 2a Page: 495 Registered Apr-May-Jun 1853 Clements Phoebe W District: Bromwich Vol: 6b Page: 523 I would make sure John and Mary are not in the British Census for 1861 before hunting for them here, unless you know for sure they arrived before 1860. There is a Maria Elizabeth at freebmd in 1856, who may not be yours: Registered July-Aug-Sep 1856 Clements Maria Elizabeth District: Bethnal Green Vol: 1c Pg: 248 And many Mary's, Elizabeths, and Edward's, but you didn't say if these latter were likely to be born in the UK or here, so I'll let you check freeBMD for other entries yourself. Just be sure to click on "Search FreeBMD" instead of filling in the boxes in the advertizement. On 11/29/08, harvieandliz <hebarker@shaw.ca> wrote: > Dear listers: > > I am needing some assistance: I found 3 graves in the Willoughby > Village Cemetery: > > Phoebe Clements died Dec 29 1862 age 9+ child of Wm and M Clements > Sarah Clements died Dec 30 1862 age 3+ child of Wm and M Clements > > then Herbert Clements died January 13, 1863 age 2yrs child of J and M > Clements > > I believe these poor little folks to be the children of 2 Clements > brothers: John and William who came from Warwickshire between 1854 and > 1860? > > I found a William "Clemens" family at Euclid, Cuyahoga, in 1860 and the > two daughters are there. but I cannot find John and Mary Clements and > their 2 children: Mary Elizabeth [b. about 1856] > and Edward [born about 1859] anywhere. > The two brothers have naturalization cards from Cleveland in 1863. > > I hope someone can guide me for the following: > 1. find John and Mary Clements [Clemens?] somewhere nearby? in 1860? >...
Dear listers: I wonder if someone has stories of how folks came from Britain in 1850s and how they got to Ohio? especially Euclid township? Would they have travelled by boat to the northern Ohio shore? or some other means? thanks Liz of BC Canada
Dear listers: I am needing some assistance: I found 3 graves in the Willoughby Village Cemetery: Phoebe Clements died Dec 29 1862 age 9+ child of Wm and M Clements Sarah Clements died Dec 30 1862 age 3+ child of Wm and M Clements then Herbert Clements died January 13, 1863 age 2yrs child of J and M Clements I believe these poor little folks to be the children of 2 Clements brothers: John and William who came from Warwickshire between 1854 and 1860? I found a William "Clemens" family at Euclid, Cuyahoga, in 1860 and the two daughters are there. but I cannot find John and Mary Clements and their 2 children: Mary Elizabeth [b. about 1856] and Edward [born about 1859] anywhere. The two brothers have naturalization cards from Cleveland in 1863. I hope someone can guide me for the following: 1. find John and Mary Clements [Clemens?] somewhere nearby? in 1860? 2. how can I find the births of these children? between 1856 and 1863? thanks and looking forward to your help, Liz of BC Canada
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In a message dated 11/28/2008 3:06:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ohcuyaho-request@rootsweb.com writes: I am looking for two obits: Herbert B. METTE dod Dec 7 1976 and Eleanor C. METTE dod Nov 2 1976 both are listed as living in Parma Heights OH. Any help would be appreciated. Hi Marge: A listing of post 1975 obits can be found at this site: _http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX_ (http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX) Herbert is listed, but not Eleanor. You can e-mail the Cleveland Public Library to be mailed a free copy of the obit, at: _Microform.Center@cpl.org_ (mailto:Microform.Center@cpl.org) If a copy of Eleanor's death certificate would be helpful, this site will tell you how to obtain one: _http://genealogy.about.com/library/vital/blohio.htm#Death_ (http://genealogy.about.com/library/vital/blohio.htm#Death) Paul **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)
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Hello everyone, Yesterday, I was at the Main Cleveland Library, History Department. On a table someone had left a book that peaked my interest. It is titled "Psychic Roots--Serendipity & Intuition in Genealogy" by Henry Z. Jones, Jr. What a strange title. I checked the book out and am now trying to read it. Trying is not a bad thing in this case. Its the remembering that is holding me from getting through the book. I would like to recommend this book to everyone as a light read. It is written by a genealogist and he narrates instances from others on how they found a long lost relative, a piece of information, etc. without really looking for them or it. The book is about those "AHA!" moments where one can offer no explanation on how or why information was found or (another example) how someone has gone into an unknown cemetery and walked right to an ancestor's gravesite This is not a "how to do anything and everything connected with genealogy" book but a book that offers hope to those of us who have those brick walls or elusive relatives who refuse to be found. It reinforces the "AHA!" moment for all of us and says, "Yes, that moment is alive and well; we just have to wait and recognize it when it happens" The book can be ordered from the Cleveland Public Library from this link: http://search2.clevnet.org/web2/tramp2.exe/log_in/guest?SETTING_KEY=CLEVNET (Type in the title in the lower section) Have a great weekend. Pat
In case you get up early to read your e-mail, yes- today is the day for our Lake County Genealogical Society meeting. I am sorry this is coming your way so late. Lois Wheeler will be speaking on "Why Use Newspapers? - Beyond the Obituary." 10:00 am Morley Library, 184 Phelps St., Painesville, OH 44077. Guests always welcome! See you soon! Genially, Cynthia Turk 440-951-0914 H ____________________________________________________________ Looking for a romantic getaway? Click now for amazing cruise deals. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2if41iiWz9ubrc9B1R0kTnszMONt7YKJSzCqR6oO8mcizNf/
Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan" <myheritage@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Skinner Avenue > Skinner Ave. changed in 1906 to 57th St. SE near Fleet > > Susan > > --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Gina Ramsey <mamasita6752@comcast.net> wrote: > From: Gina Ramsey <mamasita6752@comcast.net> > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Skinner Avenue > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 9:45 PM > > Could someone please tell me where Skinner Avenue was/is in Cleveland? I > think > it's in the Broadway area? > > Thanks, > Gina Ramsey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Could someone please tell me where Skinner Avenue was/is in Cleveland? I think it's in the Broadway area? Thanks, Gina Ramsey
Skinner Ave. changed in 1906 to 57th St. SE near Fleet Susan --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Gina Ramsey <mamasita6752@comcast.net> wrote: From: Gina Ramsey <mamasita6752@comcast.net> Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Skinner Avenue To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 9:45 PM Could someone please tell me where Skinner Avenue was/is in Cleveland? I think it's in the Broadway area? Thanks, Gina Ramsey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Cindy, I have never heard of this resource before so thank you for posting! Gina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Mac Suibhne" <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> To: "Cuyahoga County" <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center, Obituraries Hello Fellow Reasearchers, I want to point out that although a researcher might not have family in the area covered by the obituaries at the center, it should still be considered while looking because I've found people mentioned that had no connection with counties they have on the list. For instance when sending for HOGAN information related to the Erie County area I received an article that contained news from Cleveland and sited death news from Schenectady N.Y., Jewett, Harrison, Ohio and Painesville, Lake, Ohio. None of these places including Cuyahoga are listed as in the counties that the center reports having obituaries from. The article not only tells me the names of these deceased but the manner in which they died. All were listed in the Sandusky Register in 1924. It maybe unlikely that your surname will be found but it's worth the look. Thanks, Cindy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message