Susan, I took a look but cannot locate your points of reference: "just east of Green and Euclid South side". Could you further identify the location by citing a specific map # on the Cuyahoga County 1852 Landownership map index @ http://www.clevelandmemory.org/titus/toc.shtml Many thanks, Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan" <myheritage@sbcglobal.net> To: <ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:52 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] "Cooper Rd., Euclid, Cuyahoga Co, Ohio", ca 1896 I think just east of Green and Euclid South side I downloaded Cuyahoga County 1852 Landownership map index/ compared to http://www.clevelandmemory.org/titus/toc.shtml --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: From: Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] "Cooper Rd., Euclid, Cuyahoga Co, Ohio", ca 1896 To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 12:28 AM Thanks to all (Julie B. Nancy Ann, Eliz H. & Susan) who took the time to enlighten me regarding my search for the location of Cooper Rd., Euclid Twp, ca 1896. While I have not yet found Cooper Rd. I will pursue some ideas that have come to mind after reading your contributions. A 'Google' search of mine turned up this link and while the book does not mention "Cooper Creek" it does bring back some childhood memories for me... places I had forgotten about after many years of living away from my *hometown*. http://books.google.com/books?id=83jNaF8cdMwC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=1900++euclid+creek&source=bl&ots=FnRacLtlV2&sig=aLMO4ZbmsTbNox14Ed71Fq0MdsU&hl=en&ei=RalnS6D7I4KalAfYmYyjCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=1900%20%20euclid%20creek&f=false All the best, Bette > Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, > ca > 1896: > > "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" > > I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property > owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office > states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek". I am > assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". > > A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. > > Bette > > Any info, thoughts or ideas on the exact location will be greatly > appreciated.

I'm looking for David Rowe. He was in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland. I'm trying to link him to a possible brother: William Walter Rowe. I also tried looking for Catherine Davis, who married William in 1892, prior to her marriage. That may explain with the first hit in the search was Catherine Rowe. David must appear shortly thereafter. I also got Catherine Rowe as the first hit for a search on William Rowe. Thanks for taking the time to straighten me out. I signed up for a month. Looking now -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of the cohens Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:58 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? I should have explained that the results only show the name of the first person on a page. For example, I am researching Lichtig now, and the hits mostly are for Lewis as the directory page identifiers. What name and year were you looking for again? Don't toss this aside as another resource, come back to it if the church records leave you with questions. On 2/2/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: > Thanks, the links worked. Unfortunately, there isn't anything even close. > I'm hoping the St. John's cathedral records tell me more. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cynthia, I wish I knew the answer to that one. I am not a resident of OH so my access to the Sanborn Maps is denied. Perhaps someone who does have a library card for the CPL system could check for the location of "Cooper Rd" ca 1896. I would be happy to learn more. Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Turk" <cynthia.turk@juno.com> To: <ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] "Cooper Rd., Euclid, Cuyahoga Co, Ohio", ca 1896 > Was that area included in the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps? > Cynthia in Lake County

I should have explained that the results only show the name of the first person on a page. For example, I am researching Lichtig now, and the hits mostly are for Lewis as the directory page identifiers. What name and year were you looking for again? Don't toss this aside as another resource, come back to it if the church records leave you with questions. On 2/2/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: > Thanks, the links worked. Unfortunately, there isn't anything even close. > I'm hoping the St. John's cathedral records tell me more. >

Thanks, the links worked. Unfortunately, there isn't anything even close. I'm hoping the St. John's cathedral records tell me more. -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of the cohens Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:11 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? Curt, You may have missed Eliz's comment that Cleveland city directories are online (although the images are not free) at Footnote. And it is a fairly complete collection, I have been using it for Cleveland research before 1890 up to past 1920. That would cover the time frame you are interested in. http://www.footnote.com/documents/_2/ The search engine does not always turn up the people who are listed, so I have learned to find and view the page my family should be on, and that works great. On 1/26/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: >... > I looked for online city directories, but didn't find anything yet. I may > have to make a trip to our local genealogy library in San Francisco. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Curt, You may have missed Eliz's comment that Cleveland city directories are online (although the images are not free) at Footnote. And it is a fairly complete collection, I have been using it for Cleveland research before 1890 up to past 1920. That would cover the time frame you are interested in. http://www.footnote.com/documents/_2/ The search engine does not always turn up the people who are listed, so I have learned to find and view the page my family should be on, and that works great. On 1/26/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: >... > I looked for online city directories, but didn't find anything yet. I may > have to make a trip to our local genealogy library in San Francisco. >

I think just east of Green and Euclid South side I downloaded Cuyahoga County 1852 Landownership map index/ compared to http://www.clevelandmemory.org/titus/toc.shtml --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: From: Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] "Cooper Rd., Euclid, Cuyahoga Co, Ohio", ca 1896 To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 12:28 AM Thanks to all (Julie B. Nancy Ann, Eliz H. & Susan) who took the time to enlighten me regarding my search for the location of Cooper Rd., Euclid Twp, ca 1896.  While I have not yet found Cooper Rd. I will pursue some ideas that have come to mind after reading your contributions.  A 'Google' search of mine turned up this link and while the book does not mention "Cooper Creek" it does bring back some childhood memories for me...  places I had forgotten about after many years of living away from my *hometown*. http://books.google.com/books?id=83jNaF8cdMwC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=1900++euclid+creek&source=bl&ots=FnRacLtlV2&sig=aLMO4ZbmsTbNox14Ed71Fq0MdsU&hl=en&ei=RalnS6D7I4KalAfYmYyjCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=1900%20%20euclid%20creek&f=false All the best, Bette > Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, > ca > 1896: > > "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" > > I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property > owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office > states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek".  I am > assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". > > A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. > > Bette > > Any info, thoughts or ideas on the exact location will be greatly > appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eliz, I have been told that the Cleveland directories per see do not contain addresses for areas outside the city limits of Cleveland proper. Since my focus during the 1896 time period is Cooper Rd., Euclid Twp., Ohio I doubt that a search of the city of Cleveland, Cuyahoga County directories would be productive. All the best, Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <elizhgene@gmail.com> Ummm how bout a name and we can search the Cleveland directories at footnote. Eliz On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: > > Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, > ca > 1896: > > "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" > > I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property > owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office > states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek". I am > assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". > A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. > > Bette

Thanks to all (Julie B. Nancy Ann, Eliz H. & Susan) who took the time to enlighten me regarding my search for the location of Cooper Rd., Euclid Twp, ca 1896. While I have not yet found Cooper Rd. I will pursue some ideas that have come to mind after reading your contributions. A 'Google' search of mine turned up this link and while the book does not mention "Cooper Creek" it does bring back some childhood memories for me... places I had forgotten about after many years of living away from my *hometown*. http://books.google.com/books?id=83jNaF8cdMwC&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq=1900++euclid+creek&source=bl&ots=FnRacLtlV2&sig=aLMO4ZbmsTbNox14Ed71Fq0MdsU&hl=en&ei=RalnS6D7I4KalAfYmYyjCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CBYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=1900%20%20euclid%20creek&f=false All the best, Bette > Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, > ca > 1896: > > "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" > > I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property > owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office > states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek". I am > assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". > > A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. > > Bette > > Any info, thoughts or ideas on the exact location will be greatly > appreciated.

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Euclid Township today includes parts of South Euclid, Cleveland Heights, Richmond Heights, and Lyndhurst, Ohio. I searched Google maps for Cooper Road in all of those communities and found nothing. There is a Cooper AVENUE today off East 40th Street in Cleveland but, according to the entry for Euclid Township in the Encyclopedia of Cleveland History, the Western boundaries of Euclid Township didn't go that far. N. Lee -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bette McIntosh Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:55 AM To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] "Cooper Rd., Euclid, Cuyahoga Co, Ohio", ca 1896 Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, ca 1896: "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek". I am assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. Bette Any info, thoughts or ideas on the exact location will be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ummm how bout a name and we can search the Cleveland directories at footnote. Eliz On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: > > Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, ca > 1896: > > "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" > > I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property > owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office > states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek".  I am > assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". > > A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. > > Bette > > Any info, thoughts or ideas on the exact location will be greatly > appreciated. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, the form appears to have been submitted successfully. The address to which it said it was sent was one I tried directly and got a bounce. Hopefully, I misspelled it in my attempt. -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Jerin Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 3:59 PM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? Have you contacted The Diocesan Archives? They have an online form for information requests. I know they are very helpful. At the bottom of the web you will see a link to an online form http://dioceseofcleveland.org/communications/archiveform.htm I don't know that you will find any more info than that which you have already. Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio http://www.croatianmuseum.com/index.php    --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: > From: Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 6:37 PM > I just got the marriage affidavit > from Cuyahoga County described below. > Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me anything more that the > marriage > certificate or that I already know. It attests that the > groom is at least 21 > and the bride is at least 18, that they aren't currently > married to anyone > else, and that they are no closer than 2nd cousins in > relation. It contains > the date of the license and the date of the marriage on the > return.  I did > get the grooms signature. It's also signed by the person > who married them > and the clerk.  If the groom or bride were under age, > there may be a > different affidavit. > > I still trying to get through to the cathedral where they > were married, but > my emails have bounced or haven't been responded to. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Nancy Archdekin > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:52 AM > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > > I'd also suggest you look at the city directories, but > don't put 100% > faith on the years they are included in the directories. I > found > myself still listed in one directory 3 years after I moved > 1000 miles away. > > You might also check for newspaper accounts of their > marriage - in > Cleveland and in their hometowns. These may offer a clue as > to why > they married where they did. If those aren't available > check for an > article reporting an anniversary (25th, 50th) in a local > newspaper. > > If you don't already have it, you might check the actual > entry in the > church records to see if there was a notation regarding > their places > of residence. See > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#CATH > OLIC. > > Have you checked for a marriage license record in Cuyahoga > County? > This should also include their residences at the time the > license was > issued. An index to licenses from 1810 through April 1998 > can be > found at http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/. > More details regarding > this index and how to obtain a free copy of the record can > be found > at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhMarIndx.html. > > I did a search and found a William W Rowe and a Katherine F > Davis in the > index. > > Nancy > > At 01:09 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > > > > > >I just joined the list to see you could help me figure > something out.  No > >disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to > travel some distance to > >get married there? I have a copy of the original > marriage license for my > >great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride > Catherine Davis.  They > >were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on > 2 Aug 1892.  William > >was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875.  > I'm reasonably sure it > >was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin.  A > year later, their first > >child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the > 1900 census having > >three more children born there. > > > > > > > >One possible answer is that William had a brother, > David Rowe, living > there. > >The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for > Cleveland and also > >emigrated in 1875.  I'm currently trying to find > more evidence that they > >were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the > moment. > > > > > > > >Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been > Catholic.  Was Saint > >John's a big draw for marriages? > > > > > > > >My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, > which is in New York > >city.  Is there any well known music schools in > Cleveland in the event she > >has the school wrong? > > > > > > > >Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence > in the city in > >1890-92 like a tax list?  Only if we had the 1890 > census. > > > > > > > >Thanks for any help, > > > >Curt Rowe > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you contacted The Diocesan Archives? They have an online form for information requests. I know they are very helpful. At the bottom of the web you will see a link to an online form http://dioceseofcleveland.org/communications/archiveform.htm I don't know that you will find any more info than that which you have already. Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio http://www.croatianmuseum.com/index.php    --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> wrote: > From: Curt Rowe <amroots@zetcho.com> > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 6:37 PM > I just got the marriage affidavit > from Cuyahoga County described below. > Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me anything more that the > marriage > certificate or that I already know. It attests that the > groom is at least 21 > and the bride is at least 18, that they aren't currently > married to anyone > else, and that they are no closer than 2nd cousins in > relation. It contains > the date of the license and the date of the marriage on the > return.  I did > get the grooms signature. It's also signed by the person > who married them > and the clerk.  If the groom or bride were under age, > there may be a > different affidavit. > > I still trying to get through to the cathedral where they > were married, but > my emails have bounced or haven't been responded to. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Nancy Archdekin > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:52 AM > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? > > I'd also suggest you look at the city directories, but > don't put 100% > faith on the years they are included in the directories. I > found > myself still listed in one directory 3 years after I moved > 1000 miles away. > > You might also check for newspaper accounts of their > marriage - in > Cleveland and in their hometowns. These may offer a clue as > to why > they married where they did. If those aren't available > check for an > article reporting an anniversary (25th, 50th) in a local > newspaper. > > If you don't already have it, you might check the actual > entry in the > church records to see if there was a notation regarding > their places > of residence. See > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#CATH > OLIC. > > Have you checked for a marriage license record in Cuyahoga > County? > This should also include their residences at the time the > license was > issued. An index to licenses from 1810 through April 1998 > can be > found at http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/. > More details regarding > this index and how to obtain a free copy of the record can > be found > at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhMarIndx.html. > > I did a search and found a William W Rowe and a Katherine F > Davis in the > index. > > Nancy > > At 01:09 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > > > > > >I just joined the list to see you could help me figure > something out.  No > >disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to > travel some distance to > >get married there? I have a copy of the original > marriage license for my > >great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride > Catherine Davis.  They > >were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on > 2 Aug 1892.  William > >was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875.  > I'm reasonably sure it > >was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin.  A > year later, their first > >child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the > 1900 census having > >three more children born there. > > > > > > > >One possible answer is that William had a brother, > David Rowe, living > there. > >The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for > Cleveland and also > >emigrated in 1875.  I'm currently trying to find > more evidence that they > >were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the > moment. > > > > > > > >Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been > Catholic.  Was Saint > >John's a big draw for marriages? > > > > > > > >My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, > which is in New York > >city.  Is there any well known music schools in > Cleveland in the event she > >has the school wrong? > > > > > > > >Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence > in the city in > >1890-92 like a tax list?  Only if we had the 1890 > census. > > > > > > > >Thanks for any help, > > > >Curt Rowe > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I just got the marriage affidavit from Cuyahoga County described below. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me anything more that the marriage certificate or that I already know. It attests that the groom is at least 21 and the bride is at least 18, that they aren't currently married to anyone else, and that they are no closer than 2nd cousins in relation. It contains the date of the license and the date of the marriage on the return. I did get the grooms signature. It's also signed by the person who married them and the clerk. If the groom or bride were under age, there may be a different affidavit. I still trying to get through to the cathedral where they were married, but my emails have bounced or haven't been responded to. -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Archdekin Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:52 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Why Marry in Cleveland? I'd also suggest you look at the city directories, but don't put 100% faith on the years they are included in the directories. I found myself still listed in one directory 3 years after I moved 1000 miles away. You might also check for newspaper accounts of their marriage - in Cleveland and in their hometowns. These may offer a clue as to why they married where they did. If those aren't available check for an article reporting an anniversary (25th, 50th) in a local newspaper. If you don't already have it, you might check the actual entry in the church records to see if there was a notation regarding their places of residence. See http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#CATH OLIC. Have you checked for a marriage license record in Cuyahoga County? This should also include their residences at the time the license was issued. An index to licenses from 1810 through April 1998 can be found at http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/. More details regarding this index and how to obtain a free copy of the record can be found at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/CuyOhMarIndx.html. I did a search and found a William W Rowe and a Katherine F Davis in the index. Nancy At 01:09 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote: >Hi, > > > >I just joined the list to see you could help me figure something out. No >disrespect to Cleveland, but is there any reason to travel some distance to >get married there? I have a copy of the original marriage license for my >great grandfather William Walter Rowe and his bride Catherine Davis. They >were married at Saint John's Cathedral in Cleveland on 2 Aug 1892. William >was born in Canada emigrated to the U.S. in 1875. I'm reasonably sure it >was to Michigan. Catherine was from Wisconsin. A year later, their first >child was born in Detroit and they appear there in the 1900 census having >three more children born there. > > > >One possible answer is that William had a brother, David Rowe, living there. >The latter appears in the 1900 and 1910 census for Cleveland and also >emigrated in 1875. I'm currently trying to find more evidence that they >were brothers as the linkage is quite tenuous at the moment. > > > >Catherine's parents were Irish so she may have been Catholic. Was Saint >John's a big draw for marriages? > > > >My Aunt tells me Catherine studied piano at Juilliard, which is in New York >city. Is there any well known music schools in Cleveland in the event she >has the school wrong? > > > >Finally, is there anything I can look at for residence in the city in >1890-92 like a tax list? Only if we had the 1890 census. > > > >Thanks for any help, > >Curt Rowe > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Euclid Historical Museum Euclid Historical Museum 21129 North St., Euclid, OH 44123 216/289-8577 www.euclidhistory.org. Tu.-Sa. 1-4 PM; Cost: Free They may be able to help. --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: From: Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> Subject: [OHCUYAHO] "Cooper Rd., Euclid, Cuyahoga Co, Ohio", ca 1896 To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 10:55 AM Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, ca 1896: "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek".  I am assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. Bette Any info, thoughts or ideas on the exact location will be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help me by locating the following location in Cuyahoga County, ca 1896: "Cooper Rd., township of Euclid, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co" I have tried to identify the precise location as it relates to property owned by my ancestor. A deed filed in the Cuyahoga Co. Assessor's Office states that the property was situated on "the west bank of a creek". I am assuming that this may be a reference to "Euclid Creek". A check of the 1900 Euclid, Cuyahoga Census has not been productive. Bette Any info, thoughts or ideas on the exact location will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you. Of the ten young men shown for my hometown I went to school with 5 of them. Too young to be gone - too sad. Bring our boys home from Afghanistan and Iraq and where ever else they are in the mideast. -----Original Message----- From: Barbara I. Amburgey <b.amburgey@worldnet.att.net> To: ohstark@rootsweb.com; ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 10:09 pm Subject: [OHCUYAHO] vietnam vets site I haven't tried this yet, but a friend sent the link to me. http://www.virtualwall.org/iStates.htm First click on a state......then when it opens .........a name.......then it should show you a picture of the person or at least his bio and medals...... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These are fantastic. Nelson's probable mother and her second husband are mentioned in two of the deeds. Bedtime now, but I'll be exploring some more. Lila Garner's law comes into play here: A breakthrough comes when one is busiest with something else. I have a busy week ahead including a houseguest, but I'll be back. Thanks so much!! > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:18:18 -0800 > From: myheritage@sbcglobal.net > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > http://recorder.cuyahogacounty.us/ > last name bestor 1800 - 1900 there are 9 records after looking at all 9 parents maybe anson and julia w from summit county > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> wrote: > > From: Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:13 PM > > > Yes, that's William, but what I need is information about his parents, and I thought there was an outside chance that something further about his sister might lead to parent information. > > > > The records at Sandusky are on microfiche and I've taken notes from the parts of them that I could read, but there is no copy capability. I have ordered LDS films for the time frame of his admission and hope they are the same records and will be entirely legible and I can copy and study them. I also ordered death recods, hoping that something there was recorded about his parentage. Salt Lake is running behind on supplying orders due to a new system that is in the testing stage. > > > > Since Millie disappears from the city directory soon after the 1900 census, she either died or moved away. Hope springs eternal that she went somewhere else where death certificates were created--or maybe I haven't been creative enough, spelling-wise, to find her name in indexed death records. If the indexer made a typo on the first letter of Reed, the record could be hidden anywhere. (The first letter of my father's surname was omitted on SSDI, simply a mistake. I found him by searching his SSN.) > > > > Both of her brothers, William and Nelson, died before 1900. Nelson's. > > > > Thank you for your interest and help. > > > > Lila > > > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 11:52:45 -0800 > > From: myheritage@sbcglobal.net > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > > > I think we need more info. > > If William died 3/12/1899 and is William H this may help > > > > The Ohio Soldiers and Sailors Home is now called the Ohio Veterans > > Home. It is located in Sandusky,Ohio, 44870.They have records of > > veterans who lived and died there. Their phone number is 419-625-2454. > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:53 PM > > > > > > Thank you for that info...can anyone think how I will find anything about her death, true age (10-year discrepancy among censuses) and parentage? I actually need parent information for her brothers, Nelson and William Bestor. Millie (Amelia, Emilia) and the two men are definitely siblings, named in William's CW Pension record. > > > > > > > > Lila > > > > > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:02:55 -0800 > > > From: myheritage@sbcglobal.net > > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > > > > > She is not in the 1901 or 1902 Cleveland City Directory > > > Susan > > > > > > --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > From: Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:19 PM > > > > > > > > > What a treasure-trove you've found. Is there anything about Millie Reed? She was the widow of Charles Reed and I've also found her as Amelia and Emilia. She was living in 1900 but I cannot find her in 1910. > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks if you can help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:21:34 -0800 > > > > From: myheritage@sbcglobal.net > > > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > > > > > > > DIED > > > > > > > > > > > > Murphy, Thomas Murphy, 45 years old, at his home, No. 2 Ellwell st., Sunday, April 8. Funeral from the family home Tuesday at 8 a. m. Services at St. Edward's church at 8:30 a. m., standard. Members of Catholic Order of Forresters requested to meet at the house. Burial at St. John's cemetery. Erie (Pa.) papers please copy. > > > > > > > > Date: 1900-04-09;Paper: Plain Dealer > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for this info. He served in Co. B 6th U.S. Cav, having been discharged about 1864, and later enlisted for 1 year in Co. B 38 Ohio Vol. Inf, with discharge in mid-July 1865. His CW Pension record says nothing about him having been captured, but since the Aldrich History says he was, that must have somehow been overlooked when he told about his service. I had noticed before that Co B was recruited from Henry County, and have wondered why he was there. Only this weekend we have new information that leads us to believe that his mother, Mary Quantrell (various spellings) Bestor (later Mrs. Bearby) had relatives in the northwest part of Ohio and the southern part of Michigan. We have been unable to find the Quantrell family on a passenger list. William Quantrell, Jr.'s bio in a county history says that they came with their mother from Norfolk, England, and the times mentioned seem to work out to about 1830 immigration. > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:24:44 -0800 > From: myheritage@sbcglobal.net > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > Also if William is William H > found this > > The 38th Regiment O.V. Infantry Company B was recruited from Henry County > William H Bestor was captured July 9, 1864 perhaps at Chattahoochie River-they were there July 4th > Title: History of Henry and Fulton Counties, Ohio > Authors: Aldrich, Lewis Cass. > City of Publication: Syracuse, N.Y. : > Publisher: D. Mason & Co., > Date: 1888 > > Susan > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> wrote: > > From: Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:53 PM > > > Thank you for that info...can anyone think how I will find anything about her death, true age (10-year discrepancy among censuses) and parentage? I actually need parent information for her brothers, Nelson and William Bestor. Millie (Amelia, Emilia) and the two men are definitely siblings, named in William's CW Pension record. > > > > Lila > > > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:02:55 -0800 > > From: myheritage@sbcglobal.net > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > > > She is not in the 1901 or 1902 Cleveland City Directory > > Susan > > > > --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: Lila Garner <lilagarner@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 11:19 PM > > > > > > What a treasure-trove you've found. Is there anything about Millie Reed? She was the widow of Charles Reed and I've also found her as Amelia and Emilia. She was living in 1900 but I cannot find her in 1910. > > > > > > > > Many thanks if you can help. > > > > > > > > Lila > > > > > Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:21:34 -0800 > > > From: myheritage@sbcglobal.net > > > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Cleveland Newspapers 1900-1904 > > > > > > DIED > > > > > > > > > Murphy, Thomas Murphy, 45 years old, at his home, No. 2 Ellwell st., Sunday, April 8. Funeral from the family home Tuesday at 8 a. m. Services at St. Edward's church at 8:30 a. m., standard. Members of Catholic Order of Forresters requested to meet at the house. Burial at St. John's cemetery. Erie (Pa.) papers please copy. > > > > > > Date: 1900-04-09;Paper: Plain Dealer > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message