The following is from the manuscript to my book, HISTORY OF THE CLEVELAND GERMANS: Deutsche Methodistenkirche der Westseite (a.k.a. Zweite Deutsche Methodisten-Gemeinde, St. Paul M.E. Church). Founded in 1850 in Ohio City. Edifice built in 1851 at Lorain & McLean (W.26th) under direction of Rev. C. Gahn as a mission of the Methodist Episcopal Society. New edifice built in 1880 at Bridge & Harbor (W.44th) and name changed to St. Paul Methodist Episcopal Church. It merged with Franklin Avenue Methodist Church as Wesley Methodist Church, later part of a merger into Hope-Wesley United Methodist Church, finally People�s Hope United Methodist (6515 Bridge). Clergy: John Balduf (Balduff) 1851-53, Philip B. Weber 1853-?, George Berg ?-1856, 1866-67, Gottlob Nachtrieb (b.22 March 1822 W�rttemberg, d. 7 Feb. 1895) 1856-57, George Reiter 1857-59, Christian Nachtrieb 1859-60, Gottlieb Nachtrieb 1860-61, Charles Bozenhart (Bosenhard) 1861-63, C. Heitmeier (Heidmeyer, Heitmeyer) 1863-64 , Nikolaus Nuhfer (b. 2 June 1814 Dirmstein, d. 2 June 1887) and C.F. Morf 1867-68, ! John S. Schneider (b.1835 near Galion, OH, d. 1904) 1868-71, 1874-76, H. Buttenbaum 1871-72, Albert Nast 1872-74, William Borcherding 1876-? Jakob Rothweiler served as its minister from in the 1880s. David Graessle (b.1871 Marion County, OH, d. 1936?) 1884-87. O. Klocksein by 1891, Carl Koch by 1894, John R. Bodmer by 1898. Herman Rogatzky by 1902, Emil G. Koch by 1906, Christian Baumann by 1912, Herman C. Beyer by 1920. John H. Holtcamp (b.1868 Elmore,OH, d. 1951 Lakewood, OH, buried Woodvale Cemetery) ministered from 1923 to 1932. Catherine Galvin <catgalvin@yahoo.com> wrote:Hello, Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get a copy of the application for a Cuyahoga marriage that took place in 1866? I thought that I could get it from the Cuyahoga County archives, but ended up with the marriage record for the second time. I would like to know 1. where to write 2. what information it may contain 3. how much it will cost Also, on the off-chance that the applications do not exist, does anyone know anything about the "German Church," which I believe was Methodist Episcopal, that was on McLean Street in Cleveland? The Minister at the time I am interested in was Nicholas Nuffer. Would these records still exist? Thank you all, Catherine Galvin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== If you have Cuyahoga County data to share or own any books that you could offer lookups in, please the County Coordinator via email at (katemcclellan@vintagerecollections.com). ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Hello Cuyahoga County Researchers: Most of you are aware the question of genealogical frauds and hoaxes must be of concern to genealogists and researchers since so much information out there is very questionable. We have several pages on our web sites that will be of great help to you in understanding what the problems are. We have updated one of the pages in our Fraudulent Lineages area. The page in question is titled; BEWARE OF THE SOURCE HOAX UPDATE #3 Many of you are quite unaware of the ways frauds and hoaxes are committed and you may need to review your lines to see if possibly they may contain some of the situations we cover. The URL for this page is; http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/ When there look for the FRAUDULENT LINEAGES link which you will enter and look for the listing for "Beware Of The Source Hoax Update #3 for the information. For those of you who are AOL members you may have trouble connecting to many pages that may come up with a message such as "Page Does Not Exist" and you can cure that by using your browser feature of Copy and Paste the URL to your browser and then enter from there. All pages contained within our web pages are free for viewing and study by all interested researchers. The very best to you and yours. Harold Oliver Director America's First Families
The records should exist. If you type Cuyahoga County Probate Court Ohio into your search engine, then click on it, and follow the links to the marriage licenses pages, you should be able to type in the bride's name, the groom's name, or the bride's first name and the groom's last name. If the application/marriage was in Cuyahoga County, I believe the information is online from 1810-1998. What you will get is not the license online. You will be given the Volume Number, Page Number, and Page Match Number. Then write a letter to the Court (address is on website). Tell the bride's name, groom's name, volume, pg., and pg. match. Enclose a check made out to the court for $.10 (yes, 10 cents for an uncertified copy!!! :) ). Include a self-addressed, stamped envelope. You should get a copy of the marriage license in about 1 month or less. I've done this frequently with much success. Good searching to you from Lorene in Ohio. P.S. There is also a website, I believe, for the churches and ministers, but I'm not sure what it is. Maybe someone else on the list can tell you (and me).
In a message dated 7/18/2004 10:34:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, catgalvin@yahoo.com writes: Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get a copy of the application for a Cuyahoga marriage that took place in 1866? I obtained my great-great grandparents' marriage application from the Cuyahoga County Archives. They were married in 1857.
Hello, Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get a copy of the application for a Cuyahoga marriage that took place in 1866? I thought that I could get it from the Cuyahoga County archives, but ended up with the marriage record for the second time. I would like to know 1. where to write 2. what information it may contain 3. how much it will cost Also, on the off-chance that the applications do not exist, does anyone know anything about the "German Church," which I believe was Methodist Episcopal, that was on McLean Street in Cleveland? The Minister at the time I am interested in was Nicholas Nuffer. Would these records still exist? Thank you all, Catherine Galvin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign!
I am going to be heading out to Woodland Cemetery (not Woodlawn), if anyone wishes to have photographs done of headstones please let me know. Michelle A Day http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohclecem
Hello Ohio Researchers: I have recently updated a page to our web site that should be of interest to you all. Titled "How Many Ancestors Do You Have?" It contains a chart that will show you how to determine how many ancestors you have and I have also included some valuable information on the importance of your grandmothers and their lines. Enter our Home Page at the web site at; http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/ Once there you will be looking for the link that takes you to the FAMILIES PAGES INDEX. When you get there you will see HOW MANY ANCESTORS DO YOU HAVE? That is where you want to go. For those of you who are AOL members you may have trouble connecting to many pages that may come up with a message such as "Page Does Not Exist" and you can cure that by using your browser feature of Copy and Paste the URL to your browser and then enter from there. All pages contained within our web pages are free for viewing and study by all interested researchers. Enjoy............ The very best to you all and keep safe. Harold Oliver Director America's First Families
While perusing the Heritage Quest census records, I checked out their help file and found this interesting tidbit that some of you might be interested in (unless I'm the only one who didn't know about this! <grin>) -- Sandy "In 1984, the National Archives produced a Cross Index to Selected City Streets and Enumeration Districts, 1910 Census, (publication M1283) which is a typescript (fifty-one microfiche cards) available at the FHL in Salt Lake City. It is an index to the city streets for 39 U.S. cities in 1910: [snipped list of cities -- but Cleveland is one of them] Researchers can use this street index to determine a census Enumeration District for a known address in one of the cities. This can shorten the time needed to locate a particular family in the census schedules for certain unindexed 1910 cities. The street indexes are arranged by the city and then by the street name and street numbers. It gives the page number, enumeration district, and FHL microfilm number for most addresses. The typescript is not available outside the FHL in Salt Lake City, but the microfiche version is available via interlibrary loan to the many Family History Centers across the country. ---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===--- }><(((((*> Sandy Rozhon <*)))))><{ ---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---
In a message dated 7/9/2004 9:24:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, germanbob@ameritech.net writes: Seek info on Konrad Klein whose tombstone in a small cemetery on Columbia Road in North Olmsted says he "died at sea March 29, 1867. He and his wife, Margaret E. (1`803-1868) were from Germany. Contact me directly at germanbob@ameritech.net I am sure you probably checked the Cleveland Necrology File. In case you didn't.... Id#: 0182946 Name: Klein, Konrad Date: 1867 Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #045. Notes: Maple Ridge Cemetery Dover, Ohio
Seek info on Konrad Klein whose tombstone in a small cemetery on Columbia Road in North Olmsted says he "died at sea March 29, 1867. He and his wife, Margaret E. (1`803-1868) were from Germany. Contact me directly at germanbob@ameritech.net
Hi All: Just wanted to pass along some information that I know would be very helpful to anyone that has ancestors buried at Scranton Cemetery on Scranton Road in Cleveland. Cynthia Turk has done a tremendous amount of research on people buried there, not only from cemetery records (which are sparse) as well as other documents, and has put it into book form. I ordered a book for myself this week and wanted to let you know about this great resource. I make no profit from this book, but just wanted to let those of you with ancestors in Scranton Cemetery know about it. I found the description below at this website and you'll also find ordering information there if you are interested: http://www.clossonpress.com/csearchresults.jsp?searchCriteria=Scranton&st atus=1&book=1 Scranton Road Cemetery, Cleveland, Ohio, Introduction, Inscriptions, Interments By: Cynthia Turk Scranton Road Cemetery, the oldest west side cemetery, is also known as North Brooklyn Cemetery. Since about 1812 it has served what is now known as the Tremont and Clark-Fulton Neighborhoods in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Its interees include some of the west sides earliest settlers as well as a large number of German immigrants. This book includes a history of the cemetery; complete lot and tier maps indicating all known burial locations; 929 gravestone inscription readings in row order; a German inscription translation guide; an index to the lot cards containing 2,740 names; and a composite interment record (originally intended to replace burned registers) of 4,983 persons. The composite record comes from a large number of sources, painstakingly extracted from death records; church, cemetery, and city records; deeds and obituaries. The resulting table includes (when known) name, dates of death and interment, address, birth date/age, cause of death, nativity, block-lot/tier-grave numbers, undertaker, and a variety of remarks including physician, relationships from stones, etc. It also includes the sources for each record. This book is an important source of burial information for west side Germans, especially since most of the cemeterys records are no longer available. If you are lucky enough to visit this quaint neighborhood cemetery, this book will ease navigation among your ancestors there. 466 pages. You might wish to browse the rest of the Closson Press site as they print a lot of books for Western PA and Eastern OH. Laura ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
1930 Census: 2935 Ash St. Bertha Grollmus Detroit, Wayne, MI 65 1864 Germany White Head , widowed, born Germany, paents born Germany/German, came to America 1813-Naturalized, Servant for private family, Edward Grollmus Detroit, Wayne, MI 26 1903, Son, born Michigan, electrician for housework Name: Bertha Grollmus Age: 65 Estimated birth year: 1864 Birthplace: Germany Relation to Head-of-house: Head Race: White Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan Image Source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan; Roll: 1045; Page: ; Enumeration District: 342; Image: 237.0. - - - - - home owner 423 Ash St. 1920 Census: Grollmus, Bertha, age 54 widowed, alien registration, born Germany/German (parents born Germany), general Carl, age 18, single, born Michigan, Electrician telephone company Edward, age 15, single, born Michigan - - - - - - - - 1910 Census: (on ancestry.com you'll have to go to the 1910 census and search it page by page for this address (I have dial up) and locate the residents at same address.) Bertha Grollmus 45 1864 White 12-WD DETROIT, WAYNE, MI Female Name: Bertha Grollmus Age in 1910: 45 Estimated Birth Year: 1864 Home in 1910: 12-WD DETROIT, WAYNE, Michigan Race: White Gender: Female Series: T624 Roll: 685 Part: 2 Page: 122A Year: 1910 - - - - - - - - - 1860 Census: I don't know if this is yours or not, it's the only name that's close in Detroit, MI. The One of the other censuses spelled the surname like this one: GUST.* GROLLNER State: MI County: Wayne County Township: 4 W. Detroit Year: 1860 Record Type: Federal Population Schedule Page: 261 Database: MI 1860 Federal Census Index - - - - - - - ----- Original Message ----- From: <SaturdayCoffee@aol.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:15 PM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry Family & Local History Lookup Needed > Can anyone do a lookup in Ancestry.com for me, please? > > Last name: GROLLMUS > > Family & Local Histories: > > Detroit City Directory 1893: 1 entry > Detroit City Directory 1894: 3 entries > Detroit City Directory 1895: 1 entry > > I am searching for Bertha Grollmus and her husband > children were: > Anne > Alma > Agnes > Carl b. 8/22/1900 > Edward b.03/07/1904 > > I am looking for information before 1920. > > Thank you. > > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb website at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >
1900 Michigan, Wayne Co, 12-wd Detroit GROLLMUS, Charles, Head, July 1863, 36, married 11 yrs, b. GER, immigrated, 1889, first papers filed, teamster, rents house Bertha, wife, June 1864, 35, 4 children / 3 living, b. GER Alma, daughter, Feb 1890, 10, b. MI Anna, daughter, July 1894, 5, b. MI Agnes, daughter, May 1896, 4, b. MI Will send you image. Karen
Detroit City Directory Aug, 1 1894 pg. 1783 Charles Grollmus grocer Myrtle St. (546)intersects NW Corner Christ German Luthern Church 1893 Directory Charles Grollmus 271 26th St. 1895 Business Directory 1014 Buckenhizerf GROLLMUS C. Saloon 27th from Myrtle St. North to McGraw Ave. second west of 25th
Can anyone do a lookup in Ancestry.com for me, please? Last name: GROLLMUS Family & Local Histories: Detroit City Directory 1893: 1 entry Detroit City Directory 1894: 3 entries Detroit City Directory 1895: 1 entry I am searching for Bertha Grollmus and her husband children were: Anne Alma Agnes Carl b. 8/22/1900 Edward b.03/07/1904 I am looking for information before 1920. Thank you.
On Monday, July 12, 2004 come celebrate with old friends and new friends at the annual Lorain County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society picnic at the Duck Pond picnic shelter, Lorain County Metro Parks, Diagonal Road, Elyria, OH. Enjoy a relaxing evening of shared memories, fun, and food from 6:00 PM until dusk. The chapter will provide hot dogs, buns, condiments, and a hot grill. Please bring a dish to share as well as your own table service and refreshments. For further information contact Margaret at margcheney@aol.com, or Jean at atmmom1@aol.com. Respectfully submitted, Jean Copeland Vice President, LCC/OGS
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In a message dated 7/4/2004 7:00:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patnart@preferred.com writes: Albert J & Esther (Moylan) PERRAULT probably married about 1920-1922 place unknown. Children: Albert, Raymond, & Dolores. The family is said to be living in Cleveland by 1931, perhaps at same Rockport Twp property (W 136th St) they owned in mid 40's I saved the image and can send it to you, there were only two boy in this census <G> and Esthers brother. They seem to have married in 1921.. Eliz Albert J Perrault and Esther Age: 35 Estimated birth year: 1894 Birthplace: Minnesota Relation to Head-of-house: Head Race: White Home in 1930: west 135 St Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio Occupation: View image Education: View image Military Service: View image Rent/home value: View image Age at first marriage: 26 Parents' birthplace: View image Owned a radio: View image Image Source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio; Roll: 1782; Page: ; Enumeration District: 268; Image: 848.0.
Albert J & Esther (Moylan) PERRAULT probably married about 1920-1922 place unknown. Children: Albert, Raymond, & Dolores. The family is said to be living in Cleveland by 1931, perhaps at same Rockport Twp property (W 136th St) they owned in mid 40's. A search of 1930 census would be greatly appreciated. Would also like to hear from others researching this family. Thanks Pat
I would like to contact Margaret Anne Borgers or her sons.William M. Borgers or Mark Borgers. Or they can contact me at LoisEH@comcast.net I am looking to share information on Margaret Anne Weisenborn Borgers' parents, Jack and Anne Reese Weisenborn and Anne Reese' parents Thomas Reese and Ella Thomas Rees. Lois Hopkins