"German Bob," thank you so much! Your information was wonderful. Now I can (hopefully) solve some mysteries--like why someone named John Galvin would have gotten married in The German Church on McLean.... I am so grateful to you. Sincerely, Catherine Galvin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now.

Diane, How do I get copies of the probate information? What do I need to show them. And what is the cost? Thank you, Sherri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Cox" <dcox@wwdb.org> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Info On Wills Needed > The Cuyaho County Archives has probate information if not the actual will. > I got information which tied an uncle to his family from the archives. > > Diane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Etwistedsister89@aol.com> > To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:42 PM > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Info On Wills Needed > > > > > > In a message dated 7/25/2004 7:32:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > Arbyjones2@aol.com writes: > > > > if 'home-made' wills, that is a will drawn up by a > > non-attorney, have to be filed? > > Can a will be viewed by the public? > > How and where can I view a will? > > > > > > > > > > all of the Above "depend". first there would need to be property to be > > divided a house or farm. Wills can be view with, it seems, some exceptions > for the > > "famous". If you know where they died and it was more or less where they > > lived try the court house. Some counties are better about keeping the very > old > > documents. > > Eliz > > > > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > > Reminder: Please do not send GEDCOM's or large files to the list. > > These must be sent to the user who requested them. Please contact the > County Coordinator, Katie McClellan-Ross at (kathryn.ross2@verizon.net) with > questions or concerns. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings > > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are not allowed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. > > A recent virus, and several imitations of it, may result in your receiving an e-mail (or a greeting card) with a virus attached, that appears to come from RootsWeb or from an address you are familiar with. Some virus will send a message to all the unread messages in the infected person's mailbox folders; another will use addresses found in the infected person's address book. They send messages using a forged address (for instance, using RootsWeb or the infected person in the return address). The subject line may be from a message that was recently received, making it even more credible. While it may appear to come from RootsWeb, that is only an illusion of the virus -- our address and the subject line is a forgery. > > What can you do? Protect yourself by never opening an attachment from someone you do not know, or that look suspicious. If an unexpected attachment comes from someone you do know, write to confirm that the attachment was sent by them prior to opening it. If you have an e-mail from RootsWeb, and there is an attachment of any kind, don't open it. Use a virus protection program. Know what viruses are out there so you will recognize one when if you get it. There are sites that will help you, including those shown below. > > http://housecall.antivirus.com/pc_housecall/ > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ > http://www.stanford.edu/group/partners/hoaxes.shtml > http://kumite.com/myths/ > http://www.mcafee.com/centers/anti-virus/default2.asp > http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/newapt.htm > > Remember, if you do not open the attachment, you can not get infected with the virus. Delete it. Then empty the trash bin to make sure it is gone. If you are using an e-mail program that stores attachments elsewhere on your computer, such as Eudora, find it there and delete it too. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Karen, I have 3 open wills in the Probate Court for Cuyahoga County. Do you know what I will need to request a copy of the open wills? And the cost? Thank you. Sherri ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kcs423@aol.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Info On Wills Needed > Ruth, > > Did you check with the Probate Court? I actually found a will filed with > them from my husbands great grandfather, which was still open and he died in > 1954. I found this through a search of their website, which is > > http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ > > Good Luck. > > Karen > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > If you have Cuyahoga County data to share or own any books > that you could offer lookups in, please the County Coordinator via email at (katemcclellan@vintagerecollections.com). > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Thanks. I'll try. Ruth

In a message dated 7/25/2004 10:07:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Rtvorik@aol.com writes: Can someone tell me if a worker could "opt out" of participating in the Social Security program when it went into effect in 1937? I wrote to Social Security Administration and sent check for $29.00 to obtain S5 application for my grand father. They came back with negative reply that no record could be found. I believe that you had to "opt in" in the beginning it is only really recently that everyone had to have a number. Try googling something like Social Security and history Eliz

In a message dated 7/26/2004 11:22:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, rchafin@mindspring.com writes: Can anyone tell me if they are having trouble receiving info from the archives? It has been over a year since I sent a pre-paid request in. I called to check on it three months ago and was told they do not have help any more. All look-ups were done by volunteers. I still have not received my request. Does anyone have a suggestion? They do have my request and did get the money. Cindy I would write and complain! Calls can be forgotten! I would ask for my money back if they don't intend to do the work. I have submitted quite a few requests by email and almost every one has been answered, but not right away. They send the bill after the work is done. I don't know how they can accept payment and not do the work and keep you on hold. Ceal

Can anyone tell me if they are having trouble receiving info from the archives? It has been over a year since I sent a pre-paid request in. I called to check on it three months ago and was told they do not have help any more. All look-ups were done by volunteers. I still have not received my request. Does anyone have a suggestion? They do have my request and did get the money. Cindy Richard Chafin rchafin@mindspring.com Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

You're right and to that list add government workers. That one is a dead end for me as I do not know how to access the equivalent of SS for government workers. One of my ancestors worked in the diplomatic services in Washington, D.C. Jackie

Ruth, Did you check with the Probate Court? I actually found a will filed with them from my husbands great grandfather, which was still open and he died in 1954. I found this through a search of their website, which is http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ Good Luck. Karen

Hi Thanks for taking the time to answer. I shall be able to use your helpful suggestion. Ruth

I understand that everyone working paid into social security. I also understand that if no benefits were paid, the individual might not be in the index. Jackie

Last year I gave my info on the German Methodist churches to Gracelouise Sims Moore who edited the definitive book on the Greater Cleveland Methodist churches entitled THE TAPESTERY OF FAITH. THE HISTORY OF METHODISM IN THE CLEVELAND DISTRICT OF THE EAST OHIO CONFERENCE. You can contact her through her husband, Prof. Moore, at Baldwin-Wallace College in Berea, Ohio, Phone; 440=826-2900. Her book shows Rev. Caldwell was at the Bridge Street Methodist Episcopal Church which was sold in 1869. Through him another church and parsonage was bought from a German Evangelical congergation on Taylor Street between Bridge and Lorain Avenues and the name was changed to Taylor Street Methodist Episcopal Church. Over the years the name changed again when the church moved to Gordon Avenue. Through mergers it eventually became Peoples Hope Methodist Episcopal, 6515 Bridge Avenue, Cleveland, OH 44102. So did the German church on Lorain & McLean. Catherine Gal! vin <catgalvin@yahoo.com> wrote:Hello, I want to give you all a great big thanks for all the help that you have given me. I really, really appreciate it. Thank you especially to German Bob for the excerpt from his book. It looks like the church copies of marriage records are my last shot. Can anyone tell me where L. B. Caldwell M. E. M.( Methodist Episcopal minister?) might have preached @ August 1, 1870? Also, where would the marriage records be for the German Church on Loraine and McLean? Is it very, very difficult to get records like these? Thank you SO much, Catherine Galvin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Not everyone paid Social Security for instance RR workers paid into a RR Retirement system as did some governmental employees. Robert BrocLeLady@aol.com wrote: I understand that everyone working paid into social security. I also understand that if no benefits were paid, the individual might not be in the index. Jackie ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Register your surnames and queries at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Can someone tell me if a worker could "opt out" of participating in the Social Security program when it went into effect in 1937? I wrote to Social Security Administration and sent check for $29.00 to obtain S5 application for my grand father. They came back with negative reply that no record could be found. Several relatives state that my gf worked for Sherwin Williams Company in Cleveland up to about a year before his death in 1942. I concluded that he must have been participating in Social Security since he worked for an employer. However, at a recent seminar I mentioned my case and was told by one of the participants that a person could choose to not pay into social security and therefore not have an account number. Can anyone confirm what the rules where back then?

In a message dated 7/25/2004 7:32:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Arbyjones2@aol.com writes: if 'home-made' wills, that is a will drawn up by a non-attorney, have to be filed? Can a will be viewed by the public? How and where can I view a will? all of the Above "depend". first there would need to be property to be divided a house or farm. Wills can be view with, it seems, some exceptions for the "famous". If you know where they died and it was more or less where they lived try the court house. Some counties are better about keeping the very old documents. Eliz

Hi: Thanks for your help and suggestions. Ruth

Please, can anyone tell me if 'home-made' wills, that is a will drawn up by a non-attorney, have to be filed? Can a will be viewed by the public? How and where can I view a will? I will appreciate any information you can give me. Thank you, arbyjones2@aol.com

The Cuyaho County Archives has probate information if not the actual will. I got information which tied an uncle to his family from the archives. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: <Etwistedsister89@aol.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Info On Wills Needed > > In a message dated 7/25/2004 7:32:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Arbyjones2@aol.com writes: > > if 'home-made' wills, that is a will drawn up by a > non-attorney, have to be filed? > Can a will be viewed by the public? > How and where can I view a will? > > > > > all of the Above "depend". first there would need to be property to be > divided a house or farm. Wills can be view with, it seems, some exceptions for the > "famous". If you know where they died and it was more or less where they > lived try the court house. Some counties are better about keeping the very old > documents. > Eliz > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Reminder: Please do not send GEDCOM's or large files to the list. > These must be sent to the user who requested them. Please contact the County Coordinator, Katie McClellan-Ross at (kathryn.ross2@verizon.net) with questions or concerns. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello, I want to give you all a great big thanks for all the help that you have given me. I really, really appreciate it. Thank you especially to German Bob for the excerpt from his book. It looks like the church copies of marriage records are my last shot. Can anyone tell me where L. B. Caldwell M. E. M.( Methodist Episcopal minister?) might have preached @ August 1, 1870? Also, where would the marriage records be for the German Church on Loraine and McLean? Is it very, very difficult to get records like these? Thank you SO much, Catherine Galvin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!

Does anyone have or had any knowledge of EDWARD PAUL BASTIAN who was born April 18, 1916, son of Paul and Florence Corriigan Bastian?They lived in Cleveland. According to the Necrology File, Edward has/had a sister, Virginia Schultz, who has a daughter, Constance, who could be married with a different name now. These might be alternative ways to find Edward.... Id#: 0016540 Name: Bastian, Florence Date: Jan 10 1944 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #005. Notes: Bastian: Florence (nee Corrigan), wife of the late Paul, mother of Edward, Virginia Schultz, and grandmother of Constance Schultz, entered into rest Saturday a. m. Now reposing at Peter E. Eischen & Son's Funeral Home, 1923 Clark ave. Services Tuesday, St. Michael's Church 10:30 a. m.