Marriage is HEIRAT. The verb form is HEIRATEN, but the older spelling is HEIRATHEN. "Flowers, Lucie" <LFlowers@AltadisUSA.com> wrote:thank you, that makes sense -----Original Message----- From: Jazmyne@aol.com [mailto:Jazmyne@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:11 PM To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Re: German translation The word for marriage is ''Hierat''. I've seen a longer version of the word used in German church books. **** In a message dated 07/28/04 9:01:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, OHCUYAHO-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: The word looks like: Feirathen or Beirathen, or the ie could be a "u" and= honestly I don't know what the first letter is due to its flourished typ= eset. I am able to scan it to a pdf file if you are willing. ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb website at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please remember to change your subject lines to correspond with your message and capitalize all surnames. ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/

> Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ben Ringland Cornell > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:33:48 EDT > From: Wateringwheels@aol.com > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > > David: > > I believe, if you go to the Cleveland Public Library Ohio website, that you > can give them his name and they will look him up in the City Directories you > request and send you a printout of the page. I'm not 100% on this, but my > friend said it worked for her. > > Lorene in Ohio Lorene, Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try. David

The word for marriage is ''Hierat''. I've seen a longer version of the word used in German church books. **** In a message dated 07/28/04 9:01:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, OHCUYAHO-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: The word looks like: Feirathen or Beirathen, or the ie could be a "u" and= honestly I don't know what the first letter is due to its flourished typ= eset. I am able to scan it to a pdf file if you are willing.

In a message dated 7/28/2004 11:30:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djcmgf@optonline.net writes: What I am hoping to to is verify my conjecture that the Ben Cornell on the draft registration card is my great uncle and to find out when he was living in Cleveland and where he may have gone next. He sounds like my grandfather a musician who went where the work was, making him all but impossible to find. But what can I expect with a William Davis <G> The draft card sounds wonderful! That is how I found one of my Grandmothers uncles who finally showed up in the 1930 last week <G> Eliz

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On Saturday, September 18 and Saturday, September 25 there will be a clean-up/fix-up day at East Cleveland Township Cemetery. At the present time the City of Cleveland Heights will also be assisting in the project by providing chipper/grinder, dumpsters, water tank, and some forestry employees. We are hoping to get a great turn out and some involvement by other organizations. Your assistance would be also be greatly appreciated. For more information please check out the link on the Cemetery's website at www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuycem Thanks Michelle and Nancy

David: I believe, if you go to the Cleveland Public Library Ohio website, that you can give them his name and they will look him up in the City Directories you request and send you a printout of the page. I'm not 100% on this, but my friend said it worked for her. Lorene in Ohio

> > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ben Ringland Cornell > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:41:04 EDT > From: Etwistedsister89@aol.com > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > > > Where would Ben have been born? I too just did a quick and dirty on the > census and found one in Kentucky. I can't find an online 1917-22 directory, but I > am sure you can get them at a Family History Center. Here is a free online > 1900 Cleveland Directory > _http://distantcousin.com/Directories/OH/Cleveland/1900/_ > (http://distantcousin.com/Directories/OH/Cleveland/1900/) > Eliz Eliz, Thanks for the information on the online 1900 Cleveland directory. I had debated about including additional information in my initial post, but I was afraid of sending people off on a wild goose chase, because I really don't know much about my great-uncle and what little I do know is often conjectural. All I know for sure is that he was born in Lewiston, NY, about 1882 and that he had siblings Harriet, James (or John), and Edith. He appears in the 1892 NY State census, which was taken just after his mother died. My great-grandfather remarried shortly thereafter and his second wife (my great-grandmother) apparently did not want the children from the first marriage around, as they do not appear with my great-grandfather's new family in the 1900 census. They were apparently farmed out to relatives, as Harriet appears with an uncle and someone who appears to be Ben is listed in the 1900 census with one of my great-grandfather's cousins in Niagara County, NY. The next I hear of Ben is an address book that my father used during World War I. Here he lists Ben Cornell as living at 3784 31st Street in Cleveland. The exciting thing about the draft registration card that I mentioned in my initial post is that it lists his home address as "37?? 10 31st Cleveland", where the ? are illegible digits. It also lists his nearest relative as a "Mrs. Charles Greene" in Buffalo, NY. Ben's sister, Edith, married a man named Greene (first name unknown). Ben Cornell disappears after that. He does not appear in the 1920 or 1930 census, nor in the Social Security Death Index. His sister Harriet moved to western Canada about 1901 and married a John Maltby. His brother James (or John) also moved to western Canada and is last recorded in the 1901 British Columbia census. I looked for Ben in British Columbia without luck. Ben does not seem to have served in World War I, as he was still a civilian in September 1918 and the war was effectively over in November 1918. My grandfather, who did serve, was being shipped home in early 1919. That, aside a from a few wild rumors and a couple of mysterious postcards, is about all I have on my great uncle. What I am hoping to to is verify my conjecture that the Ben Cornell on the draft registration card is my great uncle and to find out when he was living in Cleveland and where he may have gone next. I will check with the LDS to see if I can order the city directories from them. Thanks again for your help. David

in the documents I received, I have 4 loose pages (German forms filled in by hand in German one says at the bottom Ger. Cath.)that belong to a family record. page 1 is a marriage record (I was able to translate almost all of the form except the hand writing) page 2 I cannot figure out. The fancy lettering at the top I am unable to translate (I have been using bablefish) page 3 is Todesfälle which is Deaths & page 4 is Geburten which is Births. I have tried for hours to try to figure out what page 2 is. (first letters on these records are printed fancy- the T in Todesfälle looks like a G) The word looks like: Feirathen or Beirathen, or the ie could be a "u" and honestly I don't know what the first letter is due to its flourished typeset. I am able to scan it to a pdf file if you are willing.

Does anyone know what the problem is with the Cuyahoga County Probate Court Marriage License index <probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/> ? I keep getting an error message when clicking on "Historical Marriage License Index". I've sent a message to the Probate Court but received no answer. Jim

Bitte sch�n (You're welcome).---Bob Ward Catherine Galvin <catgalvin@yahoo.com> wrote: "German Bob," thank you so much! Your information was wonderful. Now I can (hopefully) solve some mysteries--like why someone named John Galvin would have gotten married in The German Church on McLean.... I am so grateful to you. Sincerely, Catherine Galvin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Register your surnames and queries at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

"Flowers, Lucie" wrote: > I have recently found a letter to my great great grandmother from her brother , I only have the 2nd page, in it he indicates that it is too bad she is in the hospital & not home with her children, I know she died soon after (although I cannot locate her in the necrology index) at the time she lived on at 845 Wilson Ave (in the rear) & most of the letters or news was passed along though a Mrs. Wahl. what hospital would be close to there & how would I go about getting her records? > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please remember to change your subject lines to correspond with your message and capitalize all surnames. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 I tried to get my father-in-law's medical records 10 years ago to try to determine if his type of cancer had a genetic link. He died in 1987. I was told that the hospital no longer had the records. I tried the record service that had them stored. They told me the records no longer existed.....I had waited too long to request them. Good luck with your search. Melanie

On 27 Jul 2004 at 13:40, Flowers, Lucie wrote: > > I have recently found a letter to my great great grandmother from her > brother , I only have the 2nd page, in it he indicates that it is too > bad she is in the hospital & not home with her children, I know she > died soon after (although I cannot locate her in the necrology index) > at the time she lived on at 845 Wilson Ave (in the rear) & most of the > letters or news was passed along though a Mrs. Wahl. what hospital > would be close to there & how would I go about getting her records? There are several possibilities: Cleveland Hospital (this is NOT what was known as "City Hospital") Cleveland Homeopathic Hospital St. Vincent Charity Hospital St. Alexis Hospital St. Clair Hospital Lakeside Hospital Huron Street Hospital 835 Willson Avenue (present-day E.55th) was south of Euclid Ave and almost near Perkins Ave. Of the above list, the least likely was St. Alexis. That's about all I can say. Sandy---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===--- }><(((((*> Sandy Rozhon <*)))))><{ ---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---

In a message dated 7/27/2004 12:48:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djcmgf@optonline.net writes: If anyone has easy access to the 1917 - 1918 city directories, I would be grateful for a look up. Also, any suggestions for other places I could look for information on Ben Ringland Cornell would be greatly Where would Ben have been born? I too just did a quick and dirty on the census and found one in Kentucky. I can't find an online 1917-22 directory, but I am sure you can get them at a Family History Center. Here is a free online 1900 Cleveland Directory _http://distantcousin.com/Directories/OH/Cleveland/1900/_ (http://distantcousin.com/Directories/OH/Cleveland/1900/) Eliz

Wilson was E 55th St

I have recently found a letter to my great great grandmother from her brother , I only have the 2nd page, in it he indicates that it is too bad she is in the hospital & not home with her children, I know she died soon after (although I cannot locate her in the necrology index) at the time she lived on at 845 Wilson Ave (in the rear) & most of the letters or news was passed along though a Mrs. Wahl. what hospital would be close to there & how would I go about getting her records?

Hi Karen: That amazes me because here in Florida the judges force wills closed if they aren't closed within a few years. Wonder what the hold-up was. christie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kcs423@aol.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Info On Wills Needed > Ruth, > > Did you check with the Probate Court? I actually found a will filed with > them from my husbands great grandfather, which was still open and he died in > 1954. I found this through a search of their website, which is > > http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ > > Good Luck. > > Karen > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > If you have Cuyahoga County data to share or own any books > that you could offer lookups in, please the County Coordinator via email at (katemcclellan@vintagerecollections.com). > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

July already? Yes, it is almost over!! It must be picnic time in Lake County. Lake County Genealogical Society will sup and sip at Concord Woods on Spear Road in Concord, OH (I 90 to SR 44 S to Auburn Road E/N past Quail Hollow to Spear Rd. E) Thursday July 29, 2004. Donna Gruber, professional genealogist will talk on "The Truth of the Matter--Evaluating the Evidence." Bring tableware and dish to share. Drinks provided. Guests welcome! Cynthia Turk 39165 Johnnycake Ridge Road Willoughby, Ohio 44094-7951 440-951-0914

I am seeking information on Ben Ringland Cornell, who registered for the WW I draft in Cleveland on September 17, 1918. This Ben Cornell may be my grandfather's older half brother, who is said to have lived in Cleveland circa 1920. I had previously checked the Cleveland city directories for 1919 - 1922, but didn't find any likely candidates. I have also looked in the 1920 and 1930 US census, but cannot locate him. If anyone has easy access to the 1917 - 1918 city directories, I would be grateful for a look up. Also, any suggestions for other places I could look for information on Ben Ringland Cornell would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. David Cornell

They were $32.00 a few months ago and the "next of kin" has to get it. I do know you need a certified death certificate also. When I went downtown they gave me forms that needed to be filled out. I will look for them in a couple days (I'll going out of state tomorrow), and I'll let you know what they are. There are two children alive and I have to get them to do it, yet. It was something I set aside! Karen