In a message dated 8/1/2004 12:33:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rjerin26@yahoo.com writes: If you follow the instructions you will delete part of your MS program!!! While it does no significant damage it will cause problems. I fell for this one 4 years ago and believe me it caused huge problems! I had to reformatt [thankfully I do full backups regularly but even so] I lost all of my bookmarks all those great little sites with fab genealogy information etc. I Just found out how to save them from JeffLevy.com lesson 140 free and quick and easy hints <<IE, click on File and then on Import and Export. The Import/Export wizard will open, and you can choose to import or export bookmarks and cookies.>> I made a file in my docs that will save every time I back up <G> Eliz

I am sorry for sending previous message, I believed the party sent it to me and to dumb to know it is a hoax. Very sorry for a false alarm. Peggy

Why oh why don't people check these out before sending them to others! This hoax is nearly as old as me! Does one really believe that neither Mc Afee nor Norton would not have the ability to detect most viruses! If you follow the instructions you will delete part of your MS program!!! While it does no significant damage it will cause problems. Here is a link to that specific hoax info: http://hoaxinfo.com/jdbgmgr.htm And here is one that you may easily check in the future http://hoaxinfo.com/ Best advice: 1) keep your MS updated http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp 2) keep you anti-virus program updated 3) run a second anti-virus program, some may be found on the net at no cost! http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp Robert Jerin Peggy Ferrier <pjf@phonewave.net> wrote: I just received a message from Joanie - follows: I was n notified today by someone whose address book I am in that she had found a virus on my C drive. Therefore,, since you are in my address book you will probably find it in your computer too. The virus (called jdbg.exe) is not detected by Norton or McAfee Antivirus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by 'messenger' and by address book, whether or not you've sent e-mail to your contacts. Here is how to check for the virus and > how to get rid of it. PLEASE DO THIS ASAP (it will only take a minute) 1. Go to Start, and then click your 'Find' or 'Search' option 2. In the folder option. type the name...jdbgm 3. Be sure to search your C Drive and all the folders and any other drives you may have 4. Click 'Find Now' 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe Do not open it! 6. Go to Edit (on the menu bar) and choose "Select All" to highlight the file without opening it. 7. Now go to File (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to the recycle bin. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your address Book so that they may eradicate the virus from their own address books. To do this: 1. Open a new e-mail message 2. click the icon Address Book next to "TO" 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC" 3. Copy this message and paste I found it in my system ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Please, everyone, when you get something like this, please go to symantec.com or the like and check it to see if it is a hoax. This is a well known hoax. If you do this, you are deleting a moderately important files from your system. Please. sharon Sharon Burton CEO, Anthrobytes Consulting 951-369-8590 www.anthrobytes.com -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Ferrier [mailto:pjf@phonewave.net] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:19 AM To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] This is important! I just received a message from Joanie - follows: I was n notified today by someone whose address book I am in that she had found a virus on my C drive. Therefore,, since you are in my address book you will probably find it in your computer too. The virus (called jdbg.exe) is not detected by Norton or McAfee Antivirus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by 'messenger' and by address book, whether or not you've sent e-mail to your contacts. Here is how to check for the virus and > how to get rid of it. PLEASE DO THIS ASAP (it will only take a minute) 1. Go to Start, and then click your 'Find' or 'Search' option 2. In the folder option. type the name...jdbgm 3. Be sure to search your C Drive and all the folders and any other drives you may have 4. Click 'Find Now' 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe Do not open it! 6. Go to Edit (on the menu bar) and choose "Select All" to highlight the file without opening it. 7. Now go to File (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to the recycle bin. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your address Book so that they may eradicate the virus from their own address books. To do this: 1. Open a new e-mail message 2. click the icon Address Book next to "TO" 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC" 3. Copy this message and paste I found it in my system ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

This is a hoax! Do not delete any files!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Peggy Ferrier [mailto:pjf@phonewave.net] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 8:19 AM To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] This is important! I just received a message from Joanie - follows: I was n notified today by someone whose address book I am in that she had found a virus on my C drive. Therefore,, since you are in my address book you will probably find it in your computer too. The virus (called jdbg.exe) is not detected by Norton or McAfee Antivirus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by 'messenger' and by address book, whether or not you've sent e-mail to your contacts. Here is how to check for the virus and > how to get rid of it. PLEASE DO THIS ASAP (it will only take a minute) 1. Go to Start, and then click your 'Find' or 'Search' option 2. In the folder option. type the name...jdbgm 3. Be sure to search your C Drive and all the folders and any other drives you may have 4. Click 'Find Now' 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe Do not open it! 6. Go to Edit (on the menu bar) and choose "Select All" to highlight the file without opening it. 7. Now go to File (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to the recycle bin. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your address Book so that they may eradicate the virus from their own address books. To do this: 1. Open a new e-mail message 2. click the icon Address Book next to "TO" 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC" 3. Copy this message and paste I found it in my system ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I just received a message from Joanie - follows: I was n notified today by someone whose address book I am in that she had found a virus on my C drive. Therefore,, since you are in my address book you will probably find it in your computer too. The virus (called jdbg.exe) is not detected by Norton or McAfee Antivirus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by 'messenger' and by address book, whether or not you've sent e-mail to your contacts. Here is how to check for the virus and > how to get rid of it. PLEASE DO THIS ASAP (it will only take a minute) 1. Go to Start, and then click your 'Find' or 'Search' option 2. In the folder option. type the name...jdbgm 3. Be sure to search your C Drive and all the folders and any other drives you may have 4. Click 'Find Now' 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe Do not open it! 6. Go to Edit (on the menu bar) and choose "Select All" to highlight the file without opening it. 7. Now go to File (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to the recycle bin. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your address Book so that they may eradicate the virus from their own address books. To do this: 1. Open a new e-mail message 2. click the icon Address Book next to "TO" 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC" 3. Copy this message and paste I found it in my system

The Lorain County Chapter of Ohio Genealogical Society will meet on Monday, August 9 at the Carlisle Visitor Center, Lorain County Metro Parks, 12882 Diagonal Road, LaGrange, Ohio. The Chapter is pleased to welcome the ever popular Eli Beachy as the guest speaker.  Mr. Beachy, a retired farmer and carpenter, is now an educator, newspaper columnist, author, and Civil War Historian.   Mr. Beachy will educate and entertain with his program, "Solving a Mystery with Genealogy." Social time is 6:30PM., followed by a general meeting and guest speaker at 7:00PM. The public as always is welcome to attend. For further information, contact Margaret at margcheney@aol.com or Jean at atmmom1@aol.com. Respectfully submitted, Jean Copeland Vice President, LCC/OGS

Am researching the family of Randall Layman, born Oct 4, 1919 in Cleveland, Ohio and died Aug 1983 in Cleveland. Anyone connected? Judy in Va

Just ran across this on Ebay, and thought that someone here might be interested. This is an auction for a CD containing the Civil War census that was taken in Cuyahoga county in 1890. Looks interesting . . . Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20927&item=5511455214 James __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Melanie, You might try the necrology file and see if you can find your g-granpa as a survivor. Dick Alden ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracing Footprints" <melanie@tracingfootprints.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] birth certificate question > Hi everyone- > > I've gotten far with my brickwall family recently, but I just got some marriage certificates from the Cuyahoga County Probate Court and my great-grandfather was apparently married before he married my g-grama. It said his first wife was deceased and I need help figuring out who she is. I've looked in the Probate Court historical marriage index to no avail. Only the marriage to my g-grama is listed. > > My immediate question, though, is how can I go about getting an Ohio birth certificate (from a birth in 1911)? I found on www.ohiohistory.com that it you can pay $11 for one, but thought someone had said it's possible to get one for less somehow. Any help is much appreciated!! > > Sincerely, > Melanie > www.tracingfootprints.com > > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi everyone- I've gotten far with my brickwall family recently, but I just got some marriage certificates from the Cuyahoga County Probate Court and my great-grandfather was apparently married before he married my g-grama. It said his first wife was deceased and I need help figuring out who she is. I've looked in the Probate Court historical marriage index to no avail. Only the marriage to my g-grama is listed. My immediate question, though, is how can I go about getting an Ohio birth certificate (from a birth in 1911)? I found on www.ohiohistory.com that it you can pay $11 for one, but thought someone had said it's possible to get one for less somehow. Any help is much appreciated!! Sincerely, Melanie www.tracingfootprints.com

Sorry to hear about what you have been through Have a Nice Day! Jill I am currently researching the following names: Barlag,Bochenski,Bogdanski,Bredehoft,Brinkmann,Cawley,Ciesielski,Cieszkiewiez, Drehs,Dress,Dufelmeyer,Dufelmeier,Fuelling/Fulling,Frese,Fresen,Hunken,Klindtw orth,Hirschy,Jalonski,Kaminski,Kozielecki,Kozielewski,Kurgan,Leimkuehler,Leime nkuhler,Lydon,Mazgaj,Mesch,Obyc,Ostmeier/Ostmeyer,Obrock,Piechalski,Poertner,P ranten,Quell,Rak,Reker,Redecker,Schwetscher,Speckmann,Springhorn, Thiessecharpen/Thieschaper,Thunhorst,Viel/Viets,Winteregg,Wistinghausen,Wolers,/Wohlerst,Z inzack, Zynczak,Zinczak Jill Leimkuehler (MagdalenaJLM@aol.com)

yes thank you I realized I had done that after I sent out the email! -----Original Message----- From: Steve Krahn [mailto:millcity@cpinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:48 PM To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Re: German translation That would be ei - Heirat ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please remember to change your subject lines to correspond with your message and capitalize all surnames. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

T something on page 2 is probably "Taufen" or baptisms. You should see a fancy capital then chicken scratch with a little dot (that's an "a" in this so-called Sytterlin script), then two more chicken scratches, which are a "u", then something approaching a cursive "f" then lots of chicken scratches because e and n in Sytterlin look very similar. And "Heirath" is the old-fashioned spelling for "Heirat" or marriage. Jeff Richards Münster, GERMANY, which is why I know... ----- Original Message ----- From: "German Bob" <germanbob@ameritech.net> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] German Bob I have a question > It is definitely Heirathen, the old spelling for marriges. > > "Flowers, Lucie" <LFlowers@AltadisUSA.com> wrote: > in the documents I received, I have 4 loose pages (German forms filled in by hand in German one says at the bottom Ger. Cath.)that belong to a family record. page 1 is a marriage record (I was able to translate almost all of the form except the hand writing) page 2 I cannot figure out. The fancy lettering at the top I am unable to translate (I have been using bablefish) page 3 is Todesfälle which is Deaths & page 4 is Geburten which is Births. I have tried for hours to try to figure out what page 2 is. (first letters on these records are printed fancy- the T in Todesfälle looks like a G) > > The word looks like: Feirathen or Beirathen, or the ie could be a "u" and honestly I don't know what the first letter is due to its flourished typeset. I am able to scan it to a pdf file if you are willing. > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Reminder: Please do not send GEDCOM's or large files to the list. > These must be sent to the user who requested them. Please contact the County Coordinator, Katie McClellan-Ross at (kathryn.ross2@verizon.net) with questions or concerns. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

That would be ei - Heirat

All Aboard for Ft. Wayne! Anyone wishing to take a bus trip to Allen Co. Public Library, the largest public library genealogy collection in the country, is welcome to join Lake County Genealogical Society. We will be leaving early morning Wednesday Sept. 15, 2004. There will be pickups in Lake and Cuyahoga Counties. Two nights in a motel, breakfasts and the trip are included. Return will be Friday evening. Fee due by August 12. Space is limited to one bus. The brochure and application are on the project site for the society at www.rootsweb.com/~ohlcgs/ Last time we had a wonderful time, and there were many ancestral finds among the group. Come for passenger lists, periodicals (indexed in PERSI), a huge collection of books and microforms or a little socialization. Cynthia Turk, pres. Lake County Genealogical Society

Hello Everybody: Today there is a lot of talk about about web sites that contain dubious genealogy material. Let us not overlook those sites that have excellent material. Three members of our Society have referred us to such a site and as per our policy of passing on good information I would like to direct you to it. Although it will not direct you to genealogy lines it will answer a lot of questions you may have regarding our early Pilgrim and Puritan ancestors. How they lived, what they believed in and their contribution to the history of this great country. I urge you all to go to the site at; http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CAP/puritan/purmain.html It contains much information on the Pilgrims and Puritans and includes additional links and a well done list of additional sources etc. Well written by Scott Eric Atkins and includes an email address of where you may ask Questions, and include Comments and/or Suggestions. Please limit your emails to the subject matter. This is first class material and belongs in your library. Congratulations Mr. Atkins for your fine work. Enjoy Harold Oliver Director America's First Families

I wrote them an email...they said they know there's a problem and in the process of fixing it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James O'Donnell" <jfwlodonnell@erols.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Probate Court Marriage License Index > Does anyone know what the problem is with the Cuyahoga County Probate > Court Marriage License index <probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/> ? I keep > getting an error message when clicking on "Historical Marriage License > Index". I've sent a message to the Probate Court but received no answer. > > Jim > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > If you have Cuyahoga County data to share or own any books > that you could offer lookups in, please the County Coordinator via email at (katemcclellan@vintagerecollections.com). > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

thank you, that makes sense -----Original Message----- From: Jazmyne@aol.com [mailto:Jazmyne@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:11 PM To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Re: German translation The word for marriage is ''Hierat''. I've seen a longer version of the word used in German church books. **** In a message dated 07/28/04 9:01:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, OHCUYAHO-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: The word looks like: Feirathen or Beirathen, or the ie could be a "u" and= honestly I don't know what the first letter is due to its flourished typ= eset. I am able to scan it to a pdf file if you are willing. ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb website at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

It is definitely Heirathen, the old spelling for marriges. "Flowers, Lucie" <LFlowers@AltadisUSA.com> wrote: in the documents I received, I have 4 loose pages (German forms filled in by hand in German one says at the bottom Ger. Cath.)that belong to a family record. page 1 is a marriage record (I was able to translate almost all of the form except the hand writing) page 2 I cannot figure out. The fancy lettering at the top I am unable to translate (I have been using bablefish) page 3 is Todesf�lle which is Deaths & page 4 is Geburten which is Births. I have tried for hours to try to figure out what page 2 is. (first letters on these records are printed fancy- the T in Todesf�lle looks like a G) The word looks like: Feirathen or Beirathen, or the ie could be a "u" and honestly I don't know what the first letter is due to its flourished typeset. I am able to scan it to a pdf file if you are willing. ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Reminder: Please do not send GEDCOM's or large files to the list. These must be sent to the user who requested them. Please contact the County Coordinator, Katie McClellan-Ross at (kathryn.ross2@verizon.net) with questions or concerns. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237