Does anyone have any more info on Frederick Neuhofer who lived at least part of his life in Cleveland? He was born in Germany in about 1842 and married Alice Eckert in Danville, Pa, . Their daughter Caroline was born in Danville in 1875. There was another daughter who is mentioned in her mother's obituary as Mrs. C. Platt. (If anyone knows more about her, she's another brick wall for me.) She shows up on a census as Lisy and was born in Cleveland about 1878. I have found a reference in FamilySearch for a Frederick/Frank Neuhofer born to Frederick and Alice Neuhofer in Cleveland in 1878. The name is so rare, I have to believe it is the same family. However no mention of this son appears in the mother's obit, so I presume he died young. Perhaps little Fred and Lisy were twins? I also presume Fred, Sr, died young (or they were divorced) for Alice later married Ernst Clausing. Fred and Alice are in the 1880 Cuyahoga census as Newhofer, but that is the only mention I have seen. There is an intriguing census entry for a Fred Newhoffer in Lorain in 1910, but there is a 5 year difference in the ages with Fred, Sr. There is also a Florence Kitsteiner mentioned in Alice's obit as a granddaughter. I do not believe this is Carrie's child, so she probably belongs to Lisy. Florence was born in 1900 in Ohio and died in Miami in 1975. I believe her husband's name was William. Can you help?

Would someone be so kind to do a Census lookup for Jennifer Varey and her husband in Cleveland on 1910 and 1920 Ohio Census? In 1910 she would be about 25 years old...do not know her husband's name. She was born in Ohio. Thanks for any help. Kathie

Thank all of you that responded to my requests. The response was overwhelming! and I got the date & obit for my 1/2 sister Patricia. Thanks so very much especially to Laura Hine

I sent off for a death record of my great great- grandmother, unfortunately she was not in there. there are 13 names. the writing is slightly difficult to decipher. I will try my best. If you would like a copy let me know Alan, George Steruin (or maybe) Sterssin, Robert Frey, Baby Mezera, Elenor Rorchirt, Matilda Arnhold, Robert Meyers, Alvina Roloff, Carl Ruetz, Maria Heratiz, Geo. Dunbert, George Ulc, Stra (?) Weiscuberger, Aaron

Need any information on a Patricia Brokowski, born 28 Dec 1947, died in Cleveland area circa 1979. Not sure of Married name. May have had children Laureen, Susan, andPaul, last name uncertain. thank you david strickland dnstrickland@access4less.net dallas, x

Other than on a birth certificate record that is supposed to be for my husband's grandmother, I can find no record of this family - father, mother, and daughter, Frances Agnes. Can anyone help? A birth certificate for "baby girl", dated July 12, 1906, lists parents as Joseph Glaser, 35, and Caroline Pessinger(sp?), 25, living at 1700 Loraine in Cleveland, OH. The girl was delivered by a midwife, Rosa Bolivar, living a few blocks away. Joseph Glaser's family was Bohemian and Caroline's was German. There was nothing on the birth certificate about occupation or the place of birth of the parents. I have been able to find out a lot about Rosa Bolivar's family, but that doesn't help me much. Any help would be appreciated.

Sandy Rozhon <srozhon@comcast.net> wrote: On 21 Sep 2004 at 6:33, Michelle A. Day wrote: > My mothers maiden name is Bogdan; however she is from Washington and it > was shorten from Bogdanowicz. They were from Lithuania. Unfortunately, > there will be no relationship here but there maybe a possibility since I > can't find the name of my greaet grandfathers brother who I think went > to Michigan. I do know his sisters stayed in Lithuania. The BOGDAN's I am referring to were from a small village called Dobrynin, near Mielec, Poland. Unfortunately for you, that is a hefty distance from Lithuania. Sandy Lithuania and Poland actually border on another! However it is quite a distance from the town in s. Poland that you are speaking of. However.... historically Lithuania was at one time part of the Polish Empire... and the Lituanian aristocrats used Polish as their main language. But then BOGDAN is such a common name... that it appears in many Slavic countries, as well as non-Slavic speaking Lithuania Robert Jerin ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== If you have Cuyahoga County data to share or own any books that you could offer lookups in, please the County Coordinator via email at (katemcclellan@vintagerecollections.com). ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Daily Press (Newport News, VA) - October 22, 1993 Deceased Name: PAUL PALMENTERA III GARFIELD HEIGHTS, Ohio - Paul Palmentera III, 54, a former resident of Hampton, died Wednesday, Oct. 20. Mr. Palmentera was a superintendent at the M. Weingold Co., Cleveland, for 24 years. Survived by his wife, Linda M. Palmentera; five daughters, Linda Palmentera of Garfield Heights, Ohio, Robin Walsh, Christal Seidnitzer, Bridget Norris and Hope Howell of Hampton; a son, Paul Palmentera IV of Hampton; seven sisters, Delores Schadowsky of Hudson, Ohio, Sarah Tucholski of Parma, Ohio, Rose DeJesus, Theresa Phalgoo, Caroline Palmentera, Paula Palmentera and Anna Palmentera of Cleveland; two brothers, Ross Palmentera of Garfield Heights and Anthony Palmentera of Cleveland; and eight grandchildren. Funeral 9:30 a.m. Saturday at Saint Therese Church, Garfield Heights. Burial in All Saints Cemetery, Northfield, Ohio. Arrangements by Rybicki & Son Funeral Home.

On 21 Sep 2004 at 6:33, Michelle A. Day wrote: > My mothers maiden name is Bogdan; however she is from Washington and it > was shorten from Bogdanowicz. They were from Lithuania. Unfortunately, > there will be no relationship here but there maybe a possibility since I > can't find the name of my greaet grandfathers brother who I think went > to Michigan. I do know his sisters stayed in Lithuania. The BOGDAN's I am referring to were from a small village called Dobrynin, near Mielec, Poland. Unfortunately for you, that is a hefty distance from Lithuania. Sandy

My mothers maiden name is Bogdan; however she is from Washington and it was shorten from Bogdanowicz. They were from Lithuania. Unfortunately, there will be no relationship here but there maybe a possibility since I can't find the name of my greaet grandfathers brother who I think went to Michigan. I do know his sisters stayed in Lithuania. Michelle Sandy Rozhon wrote: >I'm only writing this to the list to make sure that somewhere in the >vast Internet vaults of lost information, someone might stumble onto >this tidbit of information. > >A search for a Polish woman at the EIDB site turned up: > >Rosalia JORDAN > >Look at the manifest and her surname is barely readable. > >Knowing nearly all the family names from the town she came from, I >recognize the name as really being BOGDAN. > >How will anybody ever be able to find her? And I know there are some >BOGDAN's in the Cleveland area. So I've written to the Cuyahoga list >just so that maybe a Bogdan will eventually find this in the archive. > >Sandy > > >==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== >Register your surnames and queries at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

thank you very much ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Melanie @ Tracing Footprints" <melanie@tracingfootprints.com> To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Palmentera family of Cleveland Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:06:39 -0400 > Here's info I found about Paul: > > Name: Paul Palmentera > Gender: Male > Date of Death: 20 October 1993 > Birth Date: 03 April 1939 > Volume: 29552 > Certificate: 074782 > Autopsy: No > Social Security Number: 273328831 > Father's Surname: Palmentera > Time of Death: 9:05 AM > Marital Status: Married > Hispanic Origin: Non Hispanic > Place of Death: Hospital/Inpatient > Years of Schooling: 11 > Certifier: Physician > Referred to Coroner: No > Mother's Surname: Anello > Race: White > Birth Place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio > Residence: Ohio Age: 54 > > The obituary info is in the Cleveland Plain Dealer (not > available online): You might try calling the library in > Fairview Park (genealogy branch) at 440-333-4700 > > - PALMENTERA, PAUL III : Husband of Linda M (Obit.). > Plain Dealer 21 Oct, 1993, pg. 06 sec. C > > - PALMENTERA, JOSEPH R : Father of Paul (Obit.). > Plain Dealer 10 Feb, 1979, pg. 15 sec. B > > Hope this helps...I couldn't find anything in census > records... > > Melanie > www.tracingfootprints.com > > > > > > Trying to locate death date/obit for Patricia Palmentera > > who died in Cleveland sometime in 1979. Cannot locate > > her in the SSN death index. She had minor children > > Laureen, Susan, & Paul Palmentera at the time. Husband > > Possibly Paul Palmentera who died 20 Oct 1993 in > > Cleveland. Patricia's maiden name may have been Brodski > > or Brodowski and she may have been born in Hawaii 28 Dec > 1947. > > > Any information on Patricia appreciated. > > > > Could someone send an obit for Paul Palmentera died 20 > > Oct 1993? > > > > Could comeone send an obit for Joseph Palmentera who > > died in February 1979 in Cleveland, born 1926? > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > david n strickland > > carrollton, tx > > dnstrickland@access4less.net > > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Register your surnames and queries at > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Here's info I found about Paul: Name: Paul Palmentera Gender: Male Date of Death: 20 October 1993 Birth Date: 03 April 1939 Volume: 29552 Certificate: 074782 Autopsy: No Social Security Number: 273328831 Father's Surname: Palmentera Time of Death: 9:05 AM Marital Status: Married Hispanic Origin: Non Hispanic Place of Death: Hospital/Inpatient Years of Schooling: 11 Certifier: Physician Referred to Coroner: No Mother's Surname: Anello Race: White Birth Place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio Residence: Ohio Age: 54 The obituary info is in the Cleveland Plain Dealer (not available online): You might try calling the library in Fairview Park (genealogy branch) at 440-333-4700 - PALMENTERA, PAUL III : Husband of Linda M (Obit.). Plain Dealer 21 Oct, 1993, pg. 06 sec. C - PALMENTERA, JOSEPH R : Father of Paul (Obit.). Plain Dealer 10 Feb, 1979, pg. 15 sec. B Hope this helps...I couldn't find anything in census records... Melanie www.tracingfootprints.com > Trying to locate death date/obit for Patricia Palmentera who > died in Cleveland sometime in 1979. Cannot locate her in > the SSN death index. She had minor children Laureen, Susan, > & Paul Palmentera at the time. Husband Possibly Paul > Palmentera who died 20 Oct 1993 in Cleveland. Patricia's > maiden name may have been Brodski or Brodowski and she may > have been born in Hawaii 28 Dec 1947. > > Any information on Patricia appreciated. > > Could someone send an obit for Paul Palmentera died 20 Oct > 1993? > > Could comeone send an obit for Joseph Palmentera who died in > February 1979 in Cleveland, born 1926? > > Thank you very much. > > david n strickland > carrollton, tx > dnstrickland@access4less.net

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Hi Sandy, Yes there are many issues with the transcribed database, mis-spellings as you found, cases where the given name is listed in the database as the surname, etc... It is fairly obvious the name is not jordan! the only letter that appears to be in question is the B, however look at the other writing of the manifest author and it is evident it is B. BOGDAN is a patronymic category surname, derived from the male given name Bogdan (bohgdahn). Translated it means "gift from God", English equivelant could be Theodore. Perhaps you know about Dr Stephen Morse Ellis Island "One Step" search page. For over a year now I have never used the "regular" Ellis Is page. Dr Morse allows so many variations of ways to search that it is THE best place to search. I realize the EI site has improved but Dr Morse is still better. One of the neat features is searching by entering a town name ONLY! When you search Dobrynin you find 54 immigrant arrivals inc Rosalia JORDAN! To use this feature go to the web page below and select SHORT FORM (gray) http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Eastlake Ohio http://www.croatia-in-english.com/rj/ Sandy Rozhon <srozhon@comcast.net> wrote: I'm only writing this to the list to make sure that somewhere in the vast Internet vaults of lost information, someone might stumble onto this tidbit of information. A search for a Polish woman at the EIDB site turned up: Rosalia JORDAN Look at the manifest and her surname is barely readable. Knowing nearly all the family names from the town she came from, I recognize the name as really being BOGDAN. How will anybody ever be able to find her? And I know there are some BOGDAN's in the Cleveland area. So I've written to the Cuyahoga list just so that maybe a Bogdan will eventually find this in the archive. Sandy ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Register your surnames and queries at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I'm only writing this to the list to make sure that somewhere in the vast Internet vaults of lost information, someone might stumble onto this tidbit of information. A search for a Polish woman at the EIDB site turned up: Rosalia JORDAN Look at the manifest and her surname is barely readable. Knowing nearly all the family names from the town she came from, I recognize the name as really being BOGDAN. How will anybody ever be able to find her? And I know there are some BOGDAN's in the Cleveland area. So I've written to the Cuyahoga list just so that maybe a Bogdan will eventually find this in the archive. Sandy

Trying to locate death date/obit for Patricia Palmentera who died in Cleveland sometime in 1979. Cannot locate her in the SSN death index. She had minor children Laureen, Susan, & Paul Palmentera at the time. Husband Possibly Paul Palmentera who died 20 Oct 1993 in Cleveland. Patricia's maiden name may have been Brodski or Brodowski and she may have been born in Hawaii 28 Dec 1947. Any information on Patricia appreciated. Could someone send an obit for Paul Palmentera died 20 Oct 1993? Could comeone send an obit for Joseph Palmentera who died in February 1979 in Cleveland, born 1926? Thank you very much. david n strickland carrollton, tx dnstrickland@access4less.net

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I am trying to find more info on a Mrs. C Platt and a Florence Kitsteiner mentioned in an ancestor's obit. I believe that all these people at least started off in Cleveland. Alice Eckert Neuhofer Clausing is listed as being the mother of Mrs. C. Platt and Carrie Neuhofer, and grandmother to Florence Kitsteiner. Carrie I know all about. The 1880 Cuyahoga census lists two children for Fred and Alice Neuhofer - Cary (Carrie), age 5 and Lisy, age 2. I must presume Lisy is Mrs. C. Platt, although Alice did marry a second time, to Ernst Clausing. I don't know of their having any children, though. I believe Carrie's son was an only child, so I presume Mrs. Florence Kitsteiner is Lisy's daughter. I have seen the 1920 and 1930 censuses for the Kitsteiners.Can anyone tell me if Lisy is Florence's mother and if she's Mrs C Platt, who C Platt was and where did they live, and who the parents are for William Kitsteiner, b 1898 in Ohio to Ohio parents. Thanks!

Hello Fellow Researchers The Fred Hart Williams Genealogical Society of Detroit will be celebrating their 25th. (Silver ) Anniversary on Saturday, November 6, 2004, at the Detroit Main Library located at 5201 Woodward at Kirby. This event will be from 10 AM to 5:30 PM in the lower level of the building. Internationally known genealogist and author, Tony Burroughs, will lecture and there will be a luncheon honoring Margaret Thomas Ward, the founder of the Fred Hart Williams Society. For more information, please visit www.fhwgs.org or call 313-438-3233. Thanks for your time, JoAnn Norman