I recently went to archives to look up 1849-50 date and they have very very few birth records. There may have been 4 for the whole year! But you never know! > > From: "Leslie Rieger" <riegerly@hotmail.com> > Date: 2004/11/17 Wed AM 09:50:13 EST > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Birthdates before 1849 > > Hi! Does anyone know how to find out about births before 1849? So far I > have a tentative hit on a marriage certificate (In the Cuyahoga County > Probate index is a certificate for John Gardner and Mary Rogers - my > ggg-grandmother's name was Mercy, but after trying to decipher census > handwriting, I could easily see how it could have been transcribed that way > - the date matches) which is my only clue to where in Ohio my ancestors > lived. Four of their children were born in Ohio - all before 1849. Can > anyone suggest how I might find information on them? > > Thanks, > > Leslie in Montana > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings > > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are not allowed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. > > A recent virus, and several imitations of it, may result in your receiving an e-mail (or a greeting card) with a virus attached, that appears to come from RootsWeb or from an address you are familiar with. Some virus will send a message to all the unread messages in the infected person's mailbox folders; another will use addresses found in the infected person's address book. They send messages using a forged address (for instance, using RootsWeb or the infected person in the return address). The subject line may be from a message that was recently received, making it even more credible. While it may appear to come from RootsWeb, that is only an illusion of the virus -- our address and the subject line is a forgery. > > What can you do? Protect yourself by never opening an attachment from someone you do not know, or that look suspicious. If an unexpected attachment comes from someone you do know, write to confirm that the attachment was sent by them prior to opening it. If you have an e-mail from RootsWeb, and there is an attachment of any kind, don't open it. Use a virus protection program. Know what viruses are out there so you will recognize one when if you get it. There are sites that will help you, including those shown below. > > http://housecall.antivirus.com/pc_housecall/ > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ > http://www.stanford.edu/group/partners/hoaxes.shtml > http://kumite.com/myths/ > http://www.mcafee.com/centers/anti-virus/default2.asp > http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/newapt.htm > > Remember, if you do not open the attachment, you can not get infected with the virus. Delete it. Then empty the trash bin to make sure it is gone. If you are using an e-mail program that stores attachments elsewhere on your computer, such as Eudora, find it there and delete it too. > > ============================== > OneWorldTree - The World's largest family tree. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13971/rd.ashx > >

Thanks Robert. I'm in the site now and having lots of fun! Fred

Thanks to the kind listers who sent me to the Cleveland Library Necrology files, I have a new query. I'm researching Charles H. Orr, who was a librarian at Case Library and a sometime book publisher. I now know that his son, Walter C. Orr, owned a business called the "Colonial Press" in Cleveland, as late as 1953, and that he was involved in Public Relations. Does anyone know the nature of the "Colonial Press"? Was it a newspaper, or a book publishing house, perhaps? Thanks. Fred Kelso

Fred, Many Cleveland obits are online, free of charge at the Cleveland Public Library site, here is the one you sought Id#: 0265536 Name: Orr, Charles Date: Feb. 19, 1927 Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #062. Notes: Orr-Charles, beloved husband of Emily L. Orr, father of Mrs. R. H. Eckenroth and Walter C. Orr, suddenly at his residence, 2047 E. 88th street, Wednesday, Feb. 16. Funeral services at 2:30 p. m., Saturday at Calvary church parlor, E. 79th street and Euclid avenue. 1858 - 1927. Lakeview Cemetery Cleveland, Ohio. http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0&next=/html/obit_start.html&dbchoice=1:dbname=necr&bad=html/authofail.html&style=noframe Robert Jerin Croatian Heritage Museum Cleveland Ohio PennsylGuy@aol.com wrote: If anyone has access, I'd appreciate a lookup for an obituary for Charles H. ORR, who died 2/16/1927 in Cleveland (born 1858 in Xenia, Greene Co.). He had been a librarian at the Case Library and also a book publisher. Any information or advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Fred Kelso ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== If you have Cuyahoga County data to share or own any books that you could offer lookups in, please the County Coordinator via email at (katemcclellan@vintagerecollections.com). ============================== Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Id#: 0265536 Name: Orr, Charles Date: Feb. 19, 1927 Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #062. Notes: Orr-Charles, beloved husband of Emily L. Orr, father of Mrs. R. H. Eckenroth and Walter C. Orr, suddenly at his residence, 2047 E. 88th street, Wednesday, Feb. 16. Funeral services at 2:30 p. m., Saturday at Calvary church parlor, E. 79th street and Euclid avenue. 1858 - 1927. Lakeview Cemetery Cleveland, Ohio. This is the only one that seemed to fit. Hope this helps. Sharon in So. California

If anyone has access, I'd appreciate a lookup for an obituary for Charles H. ORR, who died 2/16/1927 in Cleveland (born 1858 in Xenia, Greene Co.). He had been a librarian at the Case Library and also a book publisher. Any information or advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Fred Kelso

I just recieved the following today I think it's a little late. messages are arriving late. thanks . Bev In a message dated 11/19/2004 10:33:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, cynthia.turk@juno.com writes: Dynamic genealogy speaker, Jean Hoffman will be presenting "Using Ethnic Newspapers in Your Research" at the regular meeting of Lake County Genealogical Society. Foreign languages are sometimes difficult, but Jean has lots of suggestions. Meeting is at 10:00 am at Mentor Public Library Thursday 17 Nov 2004. Guests welcome. For other area events and meetings, see the site for Cleveland District (OGS) Round Table www.rootsweb.com/~ohcdrt/ This includes Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, and Medina County societies and events of genealogical interest. If you have submissions for the site, you may send them to the e-mail address at the bottom of that page. Cynthia Turk

-----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Detmer [mailto:Auntie1m@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 6:29 PM To: iris0174@gateway.net Subject: Cleveland Tombstone Picture Request I am looking for information on an old maid Aunt by the name of Elizabeth Ann Vogt (Betty), who was in a hotel or boarding home fire in December 1946, in Cleveland, Ohio. She must have been hospitalized there as she moved to Portsmouth, Ohio to live with a nephew and then died in February, 1947 If you could find anything out on this I would be so pleased as I have nothing on this family . Please let me know if there is any expense. Marilyn Detmer Auntie1m@comcast.net

Hmmm, seems that rootsweb messages are arriving a day or so late! This message just showed up today! The same thing is happening with my Allegheny County messages. Apparently this is a rootsweb problem Robert Jerin Cynthia C Turk <cynthia.turk@juno.com> wrote: Dynamic genealogy speaker, Jean Hoffman will be presenting "Using Ethnic Newspapers in Your Research" at the regular meeting of Lake County Genealogical Society. Foreign languages are sometimes difficult, but Jean has lots of suggestions. Meeting is at 10:00 am at Mentor Public Library Thursday 17 Nov 2004. Guests welcome. For other area events and meetings, see the site for Cleveland District (OGS) Round Table www.rootsweb.com/~ohcdrt/ This includes Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, and Medina County societies and events of genealogical interest. If you have submissions for the site, you may send them to the e-mail address at the bottom of that page. Cynthia Turk ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Reminder: Please do not send GEDCOM's or large files to the list. These must be sent to the user who requested them. Please contact the County Coordinator, Katie McClellan-Ross at (kathryn.ross2@verizon.net) with questions or concerns. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Dynamic genealogy speaker, Jean Hoffman will be presenting "Using Ethnic Newspapers in Your Research" at the regular meeting of Lake County Genealogical Society. Foreign languages are sometimes difficult, but Jean has lots of suggestions. Meeting is at 10:00 am at Mentor Public Library Thursday 17 Nov 2004. Guests welcome. For other area events and meetings, see the site for Cleveland District (OGS) Round Table www.rootsweb.com/~ohcdrt/ This includes Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, and Medina County societies and events of genealogical interest. If you have submissions for the site, you may send them to the e-mail address at the bottom of that page. Cynthia Turk

Who is Gertrude Tuttle who married Israel Waltz March, 1864 in Cuyahoga County Ohio?

CAROLINE HELLMAN #39061 County: Cuyahoga, city of Cleveland residence: 3855 West 21st St. Ward 3 White, female, widowed Spouse: Louis Helman- Decd age at death: 70y3m11d DOB: March 28-1855 occupation: house-work Birthplace: Ohio Father: George Luke, born Ohio Mother: Elizabeth Thompson, born Ohio Informant: Simon Helman, 3856 W. 21 DOD: 7-9-1925 cause of death: Variola Cleveland City Hospital Burial: Riverside Cemetery 7-10-1925 Undertaker: O. F. Spaulding 2704 Denison Ave. ----------------- #26351 WILLIAM L. NIROTE County: Coshocton, city of Coshocton 811S. 16th White, married, male spouse: Maude Nirote DOB: 8-15-1864 age at death: 68y8m10m occupation: laborer HD Beach Co. Birthplace: Ohio Father: Christian Nirote, Ohio Mother: Mary Luke, Ohio (could name be Lube?) Informant: Mrs. Maude Nirote 8118 16th St, Coshocton, Ohio Undertaker: Arthur E. Dawson of Coshocton DOD: 5-25-1933 Cause of Death: Progressive Ascenecy Paralysis since 1924 (spelling?) Burial: South Layn on May 28, 1933 (name of Cemetery ?) ------------------------------------- #61843 JANE COLLINS County: Cuyahoga city of Cleveland Residence: 2803 Riverside Avenue Cleveland City Hospital White, married, female Husband: JOhn M. age at death: 72y3m22d occupation: Housewife BirthPlace: Farmers Town, Ohio Father: George Luke, birthplace Holmes County Mother: Elizabeth Thompson, birthplace Holmes County, Ohio Informant: Naamah Munk 2803 Riverside Avenue, Daughter Burial: New Philadelphia, Ohio 10-17-1936 Funeral Director: The S.Mather Co. (??) DOD: 10-15-1936 Cause of death: Bronchopneumonia since 10-11-1936 with contributory factory of cardiac hypertrophy, autopsy was performed -------------- Sandy

#21810 Cuyahoga County Garfield Hghts. HARRY JAMES BRYANT (JERRY) Severd in the military No 4780 Rockwood Avenue White, Married, Male spouse: Ida Belle Bryant DOB: 7-28-1878 age at death: 63y9m occupation: Structural Iron Worker Bridge & Bldg, for 40 years, last worked there Feb of 1942 Birthplace: Genova, Ohio Father: Lyman Newel Bryant, birthplace unknown Mother: Ella Lary, birthplace unknown Informant: Ida Belle Bryant 4780 Rockwood Burial: Elmore Cem. May 1, 1942 Funeral Firm: David J. Jones DOD: 4-28-1942 Cause of Death: Coronary occlusion, myocardial infarction, coronary occlusion Sandy

Ella Meeke #7303 Cuyahoga Co. township: Warrnesville ELLA MEEKE 8760 Broadway white, widowed, female Husband: George W. Meeke age at death: 90y occupation: none born: US Father and Mother's names and birthplace, unknown Informant: Infirmary Records of Warrensville DOD: 2-26-1922 Carcinoma of the left breast Burial: Freidman (sp?) PA ------------------------ Sandy schcrochet@aol.com

Hi! Does anyone know how to find out about births before 1849? So far I have a tentative hit on a marriage certificate (In the Cuyahoga County Probate index is a certificate for John Gardner and Mary Rogers - my ggg-grandmother's name was Mercy, but after trying to decipher census handwriting, I could easily see how it could have been transcribed that way - the date matches) which is my only clue to where in Ohio my ancestors lived. Four of their children were born in Ohio - all before 1849. Can anyone suggest how I might find information on them? Thanks, Leslie in Montana _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

In a message dated 11/15/2004 6:44:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, srozhon@comcast.net writes: Paul WALAHANOMA To help you decide if Paul is the one <G> eliz Paul Walahanoma Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1894 Russia White Head Jennie Walahanoma Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1899 Wife Sophia Walahanoma Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1917 Daughter Ales Walahanoma Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1918 Son Jennie Walahanoma Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1919 Daughter John Walahanoma Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1928 Son

In a message dated 11/15/2004 6:44:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, srozhon@comcast.net writes: Paul WALAHANOMA Is it who you wanted?? Eliz Paul Walahanoma Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Birthplace: Russia Relation to head-of-house: Head Race: White Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio Occupation: View Image Education: View Image Military service: View Image Rent/home value: View Image Age at first marriage: View Image Parents' birthplace: View Image Owned a radio: View Image Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio; Roll: 1778; Page: ; Enumeration District: 481; Image: 350.0

Hi Sandy: I just tried Ancestry and couldn't locate them. Sorry Nancy On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:59:52 -0500, Sandy Rozhon <srozhon@comcast.net> wrote: > Could someone please do a lookup for me (Census, deaths, or ???) > > Looking for Pavel (Paul) WALAHANOVICZ in 1930 Census. > > Name might be spelled as indicated or as WALACHANOVICZ or > WALACHANOVICH. > > Wife is Zenofia or Jennie. Children are Sophia, Jean, John, and > maybe Alex. Probably living at either E78th or Prince Ave. > > Thanks, > Sandy > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Register your surnames and queries at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

On 15 Nov 2004 at 14:59, Sandy Rozhon wrote: > Could someone please do a lookup for me (Census, deaths, or ???) > > Looking for Pavel (Paul) WALAHANOVICZ in 1930 Census. > > Name might be spelled as indicated or as WALACHANOVICZ or > WALACHANOVICH. > > Wife is Zenofia or Jennie. Children are Sophia, Jean, John, and > maybe Alex. Probably living at either E78th or Prince Ave. Limited access to 1930 census results on Ancestry.com allowed me to find his name, but I still need the actual info (ED#, Page, Street Address, Ward). Paul was listed as: Paul WALAHANOMA My request, therefore, still stands...can someone please provide the needed info on this fellow? Thanks, Sandy

Could someone please do a lookup for me (Census, deaths, or ???) Looking for Pavel (Paul) WALAHANOVICZ in 1930 Census. Name might be spelled as indicated or as WALACHANOVICZ or WALACHANOVICH. Wife is Zenofia or Jennie. Children are Sophia, Jean, John, and maybe Alex. Probably living at either E78th or Prince Ave. Thanks, Sandy