There is a Solon Ohio - in Cuyahoga County. There is also a Celina Ohio - on the west side of the state.

Looking for the county in which Ceylon, Ohio, is/was located. Nicholas Collins of Cleveland died there in 1931 but is buried in Calvary Cemetery in Cleveland. Believe he is my relative along with his brothers J.C, J.A., and sister Elizabeth Collins. Sound familiar to anyone?? Thanks, Lynne

James Hopkins and Mary (Ellen?) Murray immigrated from Northern Ireland in 1866 according to census information. The family is Catholic. They lived on Terrace St. in 1900, which became W.23rd Place. Family lore claims they were of Welsh descent but I have not been able to trace them to a specific location in across the Atlantic. I am wondering if any other families in the area, of the Catholic faith, have been able to trace their roots to Northern Ireland. Maybe they traveled in groups. Alice Gillihan

Hi.. When I first joined this list, I posted a querie for some of the above names. My great grandmother's sister, Emma L. Rawlins Issel, moved to the Cleveland area with her husband Carl, before 1900 from Philadelphia. The children were Alice (married Grothe..and had daughter Jane), Edna (married Harp), Carl and Gretchen. Apparently, some of the descendants of the Issel's are still in the area. One posted family informtion under Hayes, Boyce etc. on Family Tree Maker some years back. I am trying to reach anyone who connects to share some information that I have found and to inquire about some family mysteries. I would so appreciate any help. I would also like to know if there are other area lists that might be approriate for finding someone related to the above family. Thanks, Bev W.

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Does anyone know if there is one county in Ireland from which the majority of immigrants came, when arriving in Cleveland in the 1860's.? I'm interested in those that settled in the area known as Newberg. It seems this is true in other states I've researched. Thanks for any help. Joe ---- My ancestors immigrated from Conty Limerick (near the Tipperary border) to the Newberg area between 1848 and 1860. Later moved to he near West Side - Lorain and 45th St. Jim

The article below may give you some hints. As I suspected a large number came from Co. Mayo, as did my relatives. Suggest you contact Michael O'Malley at the Cleveland PD as he might have some more detailed background info to share. Dick Conoboy -------------------------------------------------- By MICHAEL O'MALLEY Plain Dealer Reporter They first settled along the crooked river near Lake Erie in the early 19th century - a fairskinned race of people who spoke the New World's mother tongue, but with a funny, sing-song cadence called a brogue. It was a brogue, however, with a twist of England and a dash of Scotland - the accent of Ireland's north, where Protestants outnumbered Catholics. And it was the Protestants - mostly Presbyterians - who made up the first major waves of Irish immigration to this country. Throughout the 18th century, hundreds of thousands of Protestants from Ireland's northern region, called Ulster, immigrated to America, looking for a better life. Many early Irish immigrants were dock workers along the Cuyahoga River. Pictured here are Mike Hurley and Mike Joyce, standing in front, and the Carney brothers in back. It was their offspring who played a major role in settling the Western Reserve, clearing and farming land and, in 1824, helping establish Western Reserve College (later Case Western Reserve University) so young men could study for the ministry. "They helped lay the foundation of education here," said retired Cleveland State University Professor Thomas Campbell, an Irish immigrant. Centuries of persecution of Irish Catholics by England have been well-documented, but Irish Protestants, primarily middle- class Presbyterians, felt the crown's heavy hand as well. England, which regarded the Irish as its subjects, forced Presbyterians and other religious sects to pay tithes to the Anglican Church, restricted them from exporting commodities and imposed stiff land rents, said Campbell. About 10,000 unemployed weavers left Ulster for North America each year from 1771 through 1774. Immigration was halted during the American Revolution, but resumed in 1783, with the northern Irish again the bulk of Irish immigrants. "They were a very tough, humorless, driven people," said CSU history Professor Allan Peskin, who has traced the Protestant Irish roots of eight American presidents. "Good Indian fighters. They built the frontier." The frontier at that time included Ohio, but in 1827, with the completion of the first part of the Ohio Canal, Cleveland was becoming a bustling port. The canal diggers, called navvies, were mostly Irish Catholics. Many diggers, who were paid 30 cents a day along with a couple of shots of whiskey, died of diseases before they were 30, or moved on to dig other canals. Irish Catholics didn't come to Cleveland in droves until the 1840s, fleeing a potato famine. Pre-famine Irish settlers here included Issac Reid, who came in 1832. Reid, a Presbyterian, worked for a steamboat parts manufacturer, earning $20 a month, and built a house where he rented rooms to immigrants. In 1835, he purchased 80 acres in Newburgh Township, planting potatoes, oats, corn and apples and raising cattle, hogs and sheep. "There is imegrants [sic] coming in here every day from all quarters of the world and a great sirculation [sic] of money," Reid wrote in an 1834 letter to his family in Ireland. "Cleveland about ten years ago there was . . . about 8 or ten houses in it and at this present time I think it is as large as Hillsborough," a town in County Down. The Famine Irish, mostly Catholics, began a mass exodus from Ireland in 1846. The next 10 years saw 1.8 million leave in schooners called "coffin ships," in which one in five died during the long voyage across the Atlantic Ocean. Hundreds of thousands of the refugees settled in American industrial cities, usually where they had a relative or a neighbor from the old country, so their communities were - and still are - dominated by people from a certain area in Ireland. In Cleveland, it is County Mayo, on the rugged West Coast. Common Mayo names include Sweeney, Lavelle, Gallagher, Kil- bane and O'Malley. They settled along the industrial banks of the Cuyahoga River, primarily in a cluster of hillside shacks called Irishtown between the Columbus Rd. bridge, north along the river valley to land under the Detroit- Superior Bridge. They worked on the docks and in the steel mills, and some settled farther up the river near the mills in Newburgh. By 1870, the cityÕs population was about 12 percent Irish. The Irishtown area was called the Angle, anchored by St. Malachi Catholic Church. Records of the times are sketchy and those who were literate did not write about the Irish community. Who would chronicle squalor and poverty? "The story of the Irish was told over the backyard fence and in the bars," said retired Cleveland fireman Tom Stanton, 67, a West Side storyteller himself. "Very little writing. We were defensive about what we were." The history was passed down orally through generations of characters with nicknames such as Skid Stanton, Doughnuts Gallagher and Skin-the-Cat Patton. As one story goes, the first Catholic bishop of Cleveland, the Rev. Louis Amadeus Rappe, encouraged the Irish to assimilate into American culture, but the Rev. James Conlon, pastor of St. Patrick Church on Bridge Ave. in Ohio City, encouraged them to stick to their own kind. Conlon's message created a solid Irish community throughout the West Side that is largely intact today. On the other hand, many East Side Irish are only recently finding their roots, four and five generations later. Their ancestors heeded the bishop and left the riverbed ghetto. Many of Cleveland's early Irish stories centered on bareknuckled fights and whiskey binges. William Masterson, a genealogist and Cleveland native living in Indianapolis, said the hard Irishmen were quick to square off in his grandfather "Grady's saloon in the Angle. "They would fight the Battle of the Boyne [a 1690 battle between Catholics and Protestants] every Saturday night and you had to throw them out," said Masterson. But the Irish also seized opportunities here, and since they spoke English, they had an advantage over other European immigrants. They started as fish mongers, saloon keepers, carpenters, shoemakers, dock workers and peddlers, and worked their way into politics and government jobs. "The Irish have moved up the economic ladder," said economist John F. Burke of Cleveland Heights. "Although there are still a lot of Irish pols and cops, they've become lawyers and entrepreneurs." "Our grandparents were ashamed of themselves and they had to prove they were Americans. But I think we've done that and as a result we have integrated into the society, but we were also able to keep our ethnic heritage" -----Original Message----- From: James O'Donnell [mailto:jfwlodonnell@erols.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:28 AM To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Newbug Does anyone know if there is one county in Ireland from which the majority of immigrants came, when arriving in Cleveland in the 1860's.? I'm interested in those that settled in the area known as Newberg. It seems this is true in other states I've researched. Thanks for any help. Joe ---- My ancestors immigrated from Conty Limerick (near the Tipperary border) to the Newberg area between 1848 and 1860. Later moved to he near West Side - Lorain and 45th St. Jim ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb website at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. 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There was also St. Bridget's in the 2500 block of E. 22 (near what is now Cleveland State University) that served the Irish in that area. It was very near St. Anthony's that served the Italian population. They merged in 1938, according to the Encyclopedia of Cleveland History. Then in 1961 remaining parishioners went to St. Joseph's at E. 79 and Woodland when that merged parish disbanded. Pat C. in Cleveland

--WebTV-Mail-1552-1400 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Peggy; again I thank you for your time and effort, yes it does help I got another name to research. The RIBICKI name, can you find anymore info about that surname? I think Grace was a twin. Who is this Garce A. KOBERNA? Is it the Grace KOBERNA that (m) Wm. LAUFER?, just mis-spelled. I was actually looking for more info on Julia JONES. Can you help me out there. She (m) Albert KOBERNA, have no dates, but know it had to be before 1881. TIA. Lee Wherry --WebTV-Mail-1552-1400 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpinvite-3302.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.170) by storefull-3151.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:57:47 -0800 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by smtpinvite-3302.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 46CFDE103; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id j0UHnuoo003588; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:49:56 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:49:56 -0700 X-Original-Sender: MAGSTAT@aol.com Sun Jan 30 10:49:55 2005 From: MAGSTAT@aol.com Message-ID: <1da.34e9aa75.2f2e7841@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:49:53 EST Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Help Please! Old-To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5004 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Resent-Message-ID: <wa66aC.A.23.E5R_BB@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/13561 X-Loop: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: OHCUYAHO-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Census is not too clear-cut as to the family, but marriage records are: Albert Koberna m. Minnie Klaisner in 1907 Albert Koberna m. Rosie Pecka in 1908 Grace Koberna m. William Laufer, Jr. between 1935-1936 Garce A. Koberna m. Edmund W. Rybicki in 1940 Raymond Koberna m. Katherine Boyko in 1950 Albert & Minnie were the parents of Albert & Grace Raymond (who married Boyko) was the brother of Grace (who married Laufer) Albert who was born in 1881, died in 1922 Hope this helps! Peggy ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --WebTV-Mail-1552-1400--

Does anyone know if there is one county in Ireland from which the majority of immigrants came, when arriving in Cleveland in the 1860's.? I'm interested in those that settled in the area known as Newberg. It seems this is true in other states I've researched. Thanks for any help. Joe __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

On 31 Jan 2005 at 9:29, Barbara Jones wrote: > Hi Sandy, > > Alt Tab will get you from one program to another without closing any of them > down - I find this VERY useful when transcribing information from anything > on CD for instance... Hi Barbara, I was actually seeking a way to flip through open family files in PAF so that I could compare them to each other. Alt Tab IS useful for what you say, but it isn't exactly what I'm looking for here. Thanks, Sandy

Census is not too clear-cut as to the family, but marriage records are: Albert Koberna m. Minnie Klaisner in 1907 Albert Koberna m. Rosie Pecka in 1908 Grace Koberna m. William Laufer, Jr. between 1935-1936 Garce A. Koberna m. Edmund W. Rybicki in 1940 Raymond Koberna m. Katherine Boyko in 1950 Albert & Minnie were the parents of Albert & Grace Raymond (who married Boyko) was the brother of Grace (who married Laufer) Albert who was born in 1881, died in 1922 Hope this helps! Peggy

Need a U.S. Federal Census for a Julia JONES, (b) about 1850. I also would like a marriage lookup.I have no dates. I believe Julia JONES (m) a Albert KOBERNA. Believe they had a son (b) 04/jul/1881. He would be another Albert KOBERNA, I think, (m) to a Minnie KLAISNER, (abt) 1907. It does show a {+} at the top of the page. so maybe these are Grace & Raymond's parents. Can anyone decifer this one out. All help greatly appreciated. Lee Wherry

On 29 Jan 2005 at 1:27, jad331@bellsouth.net wrote: > My great-grandparents lived at the corner of Franklin and Kentucky in > 1874 when he died. They are both buried in the stately old Monroe > Street Cemetery, where many of the Society of Masons and their > families are buried. I forgot about that one. That's one I'll have to follow up on. > My mom had two baby siblings who were buried in Riverside Cemetery on > West 25th. She said when she was a kid in the 1920's the whole family > would ride the streetcar to the end of the line, then walk up the hill > to the graves and spend the afternoon, often taking a picnic lunch. > That is really a beautiful cemetery with a wonderful view, located > near the Cleveland Zoo, if I remember correctly. Yes, that it is...just north of the Zoo. I just found out yesterday that there used to be a small lake ringed with big willows in Riverside where people would take out little rowboats. Must have been quite a sight to see. Sandy > > Judy > > > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings > > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are not allowed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. > > A recent virus, and several imitations of it, may result in your receiving an e-mail (or a greeting card) with a virus attached, that appears to come from RootsWeb or from an address you are familiar with. Some virus will send a message to all the unread messages in the infected person's mailbox folders; another will use addresses found in the infected person's address book. They send messages using a forged address (for instance, using RootsWeb or the infected person in the return address). The subject line may be from a message that was recently received, making it even more credible. While it may appear to come from RootsWeb, that is only an illusion of the virus -- our address and the subject line is a forgery. > > What can you do? Protect yourself by never opening an attachment from someone you do not know, or that look suspicious. If an unexpected attachment comes from someone you do know, write to confirm that the attachment was sent by them prior to opening it. If you have an e-mail from RootsWeb, and there is an attachment of any kind, don't open it. Use a virus protection program. Know what viruses are out there so you will recognize one when if you get it. There are sites that will help you, including those shown below. > > http://housecall.antivirus.com/pc_housecall/ > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ > http://www.stanford.edu/group/partners/hoaxes.shtml > http://kumite.com/myths/ > http://www.mcafee.com/centers/anti-virus/default2.asp > http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/newapt.htm > > Remember, if you do not open the attachment, you can not get infected with the virus. Delete it. Then empty the trash bin to make sure it is gone. If you are using an e-mail program that stores attachments elsewhere on your computer, such as Eudora, find it there and delete it too. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

On 29 Jan 2005 at 1:01, Wateringwheels@aol.com wrote: > Dear Sandy: > > The cemeteries I know of in that area are Riverside Cemetery on West 25th > Street, Brooklyn Centre Burying Grounds, on the little street just south of > Aldi's Grocery Store near Archwood and W. 25th Street, Brookmere Cemetery, at the > far west end of Broadview Road, which runs on the west side of Pearl Road, or > possibly even the small cemetery on Broadview just before Spring Road. I'm guessing that he may have died around 1850. I found some deeds mentioning him and then all of a sudden, nothing. Riverside wasn't open yet; he doesn't seem to be in Denison Cemetery (Brooklyn Centre Buring grounds); but the one near Spring Rd might be a possibility. Of course, no one knows everyone who is buried there, so if he is in that place, the details are lost to history. :( Sandy

Irish families also attended St. Joseph's on I believe is Woodland Ave. That's where I found mine. You may inquire at the Catholic Diocese. Marlene, Ohio

Thanks to all who helped find the church of my O'Donnells. While seeking an answer, I happened upon a message in the 2003 Cuyaho archives by typing in University. There is some great information to the Tremont area. Hope this helps anyone else looking. Trudy

That is the Tremont area of Cleveland. But an Irish family living there probably went to St. Patrick's (Bridge)--called that to distinguish it from the other St. Patrick's (West Park).

My great-grandparents lived at the corner of Franklin and Kentucky in 1874 when he died. They are both buried in the stately old Monroe Street Cemetery, where many of the Society of Masons and their families are buried. My mom had two baby siblings who were buried in Riverside Cemetery on West 25th. She said when she was a kid in the 1920's the whole family would ride the streetcar to the end of the line, then walk up the hill to the graves and spend the afternoon, often taking a picnic lunch. That is really a beautiful cemetery with a wonderful view, located near the Cleveland Zoo, if I remember correctly. Judy

Dear Sandy: The cemeteries I know of in that area are Riverside Cemetery on West 25th Street, Brooklyn Centre Burying Grounds, on the little street just south of Aldi's Grocery Store near Archwood and W. 25th Street, Brookmere Cemetery, at the far west end of Broadview Road, which runs on the west side of Pearl Road, or possibly even the small cemetery on Broadview just before Spring Road. Of course, if he was Catholic, he probably was in one of the Catholic cemeteries. If he was Lutheran, he might be in the cemetery at Biddulph and Pearl Roads. Lorene in Old Brooklyn