On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:05:27 GMT, "doriswaggoner@juno.com" <doriswaggoner@juno.com> wrote: >But what about an 1870 sale? That's 20 years later. My ggfather died in 1896. His property didn't get transferred out of his name until 1943. My ggmother died in 1941. My guess is that when the kids were settling her affairs, they discovered that the house was still in his name! -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

In a message dated 4/4/2005 7:17:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, srozhon@comcast.net writes: Well, 20 years....I may have to backtrack on my statement if the time span is that huge. I did see deeds about 8-10 years after a death. It was not always necessary to record a deed until you wanted to sell <VBG> and many procrastinated <G>< making searching the land records VERY interesting <G> Eliz

I know that he had eight children from his first marriage over a 20 year span, was widowed four years before he married again. I don't know the age of his second wife, but she also had eight children. One of his sons married one of her daughters. So I'm guessing they were more or less the same age. They had two children together, who died in infancy. One source says his sons became prominent businessmen in Cleveland. I found an old Oberlin yearbook showing that several of her sons but none of his went there. Her sons were buried in a plot he bought 25 years before they were married but none of his family except the son who married in. In other words, lots of potential for differences between the two sets of children. There might have been good reason for just letting things slide for 20 years! But I'd sure like to know for sure when Moses died. Doris -- "Sandy Rozhon" <srozhon@comcast.net> wrote: On 4 Apr 2005 at 23:05, doriswaggoner@juno.com wrote: > > Sandy, > > What you're suggesting makes sense if he died in 1850 and it took time > to get his will probated--he had eight children, all of whom seem to > have survived to adulthood--for the 1853 sale. But what about an 1870 > sale? That's 20 years later. Well, 20 years....I may have to backtrack on my statement if the time span is that huge. I did see deeds about 8-10 years after a death. In some cases it was due to needing someone from another state to sign papers. In other case, I believe the families never bothered to transfer the property out of the deceased's name. In fact, I have that exact situation in my own family. There exists a deed in my mother-in-law's name and she's been gone 16 years now. It was never transferred. Sandy ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Good evening, everyone!!! Do you know anyone just starting with their "Digging up of Dead Relatives"??? If so, let them know about these classes!!! It's getting close to the end.... Classes on Beginning Genealogy are coming up!! Presented by the Greater Cleveland Genealogical Society, held at Cuyahoga County Library, Fairview Park Regional Branch. For all the details, check out: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgcgg/class.html Have a great evening.. gonna be a wonderful day tomorrow, get out, enjoy the sunshine!!! Lorraine

Sandy, What you're suggesting makes sense if he died in 1850 and it took time to get his will probated--he had eight children, all of whom seem to have survived to adulthood--for the 1853 sale. But what about an 1870 sale? That's 20 years later. Or would the husband's name be put on the deed of a sale made by a widow? I just don't know how things were done in those days. Why is it more convenient? Doris -- "Sandy Rozhon" <srozhon@comcast.net> wrote: On 4 Apr 2005 at 15:16, SMACSUIB@columbus.rr.com wrote: > Hi Doris, I read through the property deeds online at the recorder's > office and something struck me, your Moses Jewett is still selling > land with his wife Adeline 14 July, 1870. They both sold land to > Charles Jewett. I know it's your Moses because it records his wife as > formerly Adeline Adams so I'm pretty sure your Moses died after 1870. > Also 6 Sept. 1853 Moses and his wife Adeline sell land to the > railroad. Adeline is also listed there as formerly Adeline Adams. I > would consider Moses still alive in 1870. This is not necessarily true. Many deeds I've looked at will show the property transferring from an individual for whom I have a date of death prior to the transfer. It seemed to be a convenience for the family to use this format, so you have to watch with these early deeds and not make that assumption. Sandy ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Reminder: Please do not send GEDCOM's or large files to the list. These must be sent to the user who requested them. Please contact the County Coordinator, Katie McClellan-Ross at (kathryn.ross2@verizon.net) with questions or concerns. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Cindy, The email addy is: archive@cuyahogacounty.us It's the most current address available. Lorraine Newsome Cuyahoga County Genealogy and History: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyah2/ At 09:13 PM 4/4/2005, SMACSUIB@columbus.rr.com wrote: >Hello Everyone, >Can someone on the list send the CCArchives email address to the list. I >told Doris to email them (I know the email comes with a request sheet) and >inquire if Moses JEWETT had a will but I can't find the email address, the >one on the Cuyahoga County rootsweb list is old and hasn't worked in a >long time. >Thanks, >Cindy

Cuyahogans: John and Josephine Epp were listed in the 1880 Federal Census of Cleveland. John was 28 years of age and Josephine 23 years. He is shown as native to Bavaria and she as born in PA. They have a 2 year-old son (Edwin) living with them. Do any of you have any supporting/expanding info on this Epp family? TIA Bob Epp, in VA

Does anyone out there own a copy of "Cleveland Newspaper Index to Marriages and Deaths (1818-1876)" I have a copy but I just moved and it's packed away somewhere. If someone owns this could they lookup Moses JEWETT for Doris.

Hello Everyone, Can someone on the list send the CCArchives email address to the list. I told Doris to email them (I know the email comes with a request sheet) and inquire if Moses JEWETT had a will but I can't find the email address, the one on the Cuyahoga County rootsweb list is old and hasn't worked in a long time. Thanks, Cindy

On 4 Apr 2005 at 23:05, doriswaggoner@juno.com wrote: > > Sandy, > > What you're suggesting makes sense if he died in 1850 and it took time > to get his will probated--he had eight children, all of whom seem to > have survived to adulthood--for the 1853 sale. But what about an 1870 > sale? That's 20 years later. Well, 20 years....I may have to backtrack on my statement if the time span is that huge. I did see deeds about 8-10 years after a death. In some cases it was due to needing someone from another state to sign papers. In other case, I believe the families never bothered to transfer the property out of the deceased's name. In fact, I have that exact situation in my own family. There exists a deed in my mother-in-law's name and she's been gone 16 years now. It was never transferred. Sandy

On 4 Apr 2005 at 15:16, SMACSUIB@columbus.rr.com wrote: > Hi Doris, I read through the property deeds online at the recorder's > office and something struck me, your Moses Jewett is still selling > land with his wife Adeline 14 July, 1870. They both sold land to > Charles Jewett. I know it's your Moses because it records his wife as > formerly Adeline Adams so I'm pretty sure your Moses died after 1870. > Also 6 Sept. 1853 Moses and his wife Adeline sell land to the > railroad. Adeline is also listed there as formerly Adeline Adams. I > would consider Moses still alive in 1870. This is not necessarily true. Many deeds I've looked at will show the property transferring from an individual for whom I have a date of death prior to the transfer. It seemed to be a convenience for the family to use this format, so you have to watch with these early deeds and not make that assumption. Sandy

Sounds like the right man, since he was born in 1788 and would be 62 in 1850. How can I get access, at this distance, to the Necrology File to verify any other details that might be there? Thanks, Doris Seattle -- "Sandy Rozhon" <srozhon@comcast.net> wrote: The Cleveland Necrology file has this: Id#: 0165068 Name: Jewett, Moses Date: 1850 Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #042. Notes: age 62. Harvard Grove Cemetery Cleveland, O. So it would seem that he is buried in that cemetery. Sandy On 4 Apr 2005 at 1:30, doriswaggoner@juno.com wrote: > > Looking for info on Moses JEWETT, b. Oct 3, 1788, Hollis NH, moved to Conn at unknown age., married Eunice ANDREWS, b. 1792, probably there. Family story says they came to Cleveland in 1808. Have record of his buying a burial plot there in 1810, so he was there at least that early. Children Esther A. b. 1813; George A. b. 1816; Lydia A, b. 1818; Alvah b. 1821; Charles Porter b. 1825; Eunice b. May 30, 1828; Mary Jane, b. 1830; Julia Towsley, b. 1833. The children at least through Alvah were born in Cleveland. Eunice, my ancestor, was born in Newburgh (now Newburgh Heights). ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please remember to change your subject lines to correspond with your message and capitalize all surnames. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I went to familysearch.org and I see that someone has recorded the marriage of Moses and Adeline 31 March 1836 and I see that Jim Dresser must have some connection to Moses. Jim is a very nice guy and if you go to his site via familysearch.org he can give you the info he has. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "doriswaggoner@juno.com" <doriswaggoner@juno.com> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2005 9:30 pm Subject: [OHCUYAHO] JEWETT, Moses, Oct 3, 1788 Hollis NH - 1850 ? Cleveland ? > > Looking for info on Moses JEWETT, b. Oct 3, 1788, Hollis NH, moved > to Conn at unknown age., married Eunice ANDREWS, b. 1792, > probably there. Family story says they came to Cleveland in 1808. > Have record of his buying a burial plot there in 1810, so he was > there at least that early. Children Esther A. b. 1813; George A. > b. 1816; Lydia A, b. 1818; Alvah b. 1821; Charles Porter b. 1825; > Eunice b. May 30, 1828; Mary Jane, b. 1830; Julia Towsley, b. > 1833. The children at least through Alvah were born in Cleveland. > Eunice, my ancestor, was born in Newburgh (now Newburgh Heights). > > > In Newburgh, the family lived on a farm on Miles Ave, and he was a > prominent farmer, as he had been prominent in Cleveland, though I > do not yet know his occupation there. Apparently his sons were > prominent businessmen and his daughters moved in society. > > His wife died in 1832, and in 1836 he married Adeline ADAMS. She > had eight children of her own. Moses and Adeline had two children > together, both of whom died as infants. Charles Porter JEWETT > married his stepsister Adeline ADAMS. > > Oddly enough, several of the ADAMS children and their families are > buried in the plot Moses JEWETT purchased, but he is not. I have > not been able to find his burial place. > > Some stories indicate he died in 1850. However, the place varies. > One says Cleveland. An obituary for his daughter Eunice's > husband Nicholas S. BASTION states that before their marriage in > 1851, Eunice lived in Dayton, OH with her father. This implies he > was still alive then. Numerous queries in that area have turned > up nothing. Neither have queries in the Cleveland area. > > I would appreciate any information at all on Moses JEWETT, either > on his early life in Cleveland, or on his death. > > Thank you, > Doris Waggoner > Seattle > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Register your surnames and queries at > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi Doris, I read through the property deeds online at the recorder's office and something struck me, your Moses Jewett is still selling land with his wife Adeline 14 July, 1870. They both sold land to Charles Jewett. I know it's your Moses because it records his wife as formerly Adeline Adams so I'm pretty sure your Moses died after 1870. Also 6 Sept. 1853 Moses and his wife Adeline sell land to the railroad. Adeline is also listed there as formerly Adeline Adams. I would consider Moses still alive in 1870. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "doriswaggoner@juno.com" <doriswaggoner@juno.com> Date: Monday, April 4, 2005 2:15 pm Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] JEWETT, Moses, Oct 3, 1788 Hollis NH - 1850 ? Cleveland ? > > Sounds like the right man, since he was born in 1788 and would be > 62 in 1850. How can I get access, at this distance, to the > Necrology File to verify any other details that might be there? > > Thanks, > Doris > Seattle > > -- "Sandy Rozhon" <srozhon@comcast.net> wrote: > The Cleveland Necrology file has this: > > Id#: 0165068 > Name: Jewett, Moses > Date: 1850 > Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #042. > Notes: age 62. Harvard Grove Cemetery Cleveland, O. > > So it would seem that he is buried in that cemetery. > Sandy > > On 4 Apr 2005 at 1:30, doriswaggoner@juno.com wrote: > > > > > Looking for info on Moses JEWETT, b. Oct 3, 1788, Hollis NH, > moved to Conn at unknown age., married Eunice ANDREWS, b. 1792, > probably there. Family story says they came to Cleveland in 1808. > Have record of his buying a burial plot there in 1810, so he was > there at least that early. Children Esther A. b. 1813; George A. > b. 1816; Lydia A, b. 1818; Alvah b. 1821; Charles Porter b. 1825; > Eunice b. May 30, 1828; Mary Jane, b. 1830; Julia Towsley, b. > 1833. The children at least through Alvah were born in > Cleveland. Eunice, my ancestor, was born in Newburgh (now > Newburgh Heights). > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please remember to change your subject lines to correspond with > your message and capitalize all surnames. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Register your surnames and queries at > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

On the subject of Cuyahoga County Necrology Films,they are paid obituaries taken from local Cuyahoga County newspapers, mostly the Cleveland Press and Cleveland Plain Dealer. Several Genealogical Societies though through the years have recorded headstone information and that info was put on index cards and filmed with the obituaries. There would be no other information on a index card reading "Cemetery information" Necrology File Reel # 042. This is simply an index card with either headstone info or cemetery info such as the place of burial perhaps birth and death dates if it's on the headstone. Of course if it said Harvard Grove with a death date or Calvary Cemetery then it would give the researcher another source to check that would yeild further information. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Kowallek <kowallek@iglou.com> Date: Monday, April 4, 2005 2:40 pm Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Necrology File? > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:15:21 GMT, "doriswaggoner@juno.com" > <doriswaggoner@juno.com> wrote: > > >How can I get access, at this distance, to the Necrology File to > verify any other details that might be there? > > That brings up a question I've been wanting to ask. > > When it says something like... > > "Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #042" > > What kind of stuff is on this reel? Is there any additional info? > I assume the > library is in physical possession of this reel? > > -- > > Dennis M. Kowallek > kowallek@iglou.com > > ****************** > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb website at > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:15:21 GMT, "doriswaggoner@juno.com" <doriswaggoner@juno.com> wrote: >How can I get access, at this distance, to the Necrology File to verify any other details that might be there? That brings up a question I've been wanting to ask. When it says something like... "Source: Cemetery record; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #042" What kind of stuff is on this reel? Is there any additional info? I assume the library is in physical possession of this reel? -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

I used to work for WILLIAM JEWETT in Aurora Oh from 1958 -- 1960..Wonder if he was related to your JEWETT Milly Piros*Garfield Heights That the Birds of Worry and Care, Fly above your head, This you cannot change, But that they build Nests in your hair, This you can prevent. **Chinese Proverb**

Dear List, Thank you so very much! You have given me many areas to search and I am very grateful. Please have patience as I might be asking for help again! Angela

Charles Porter Jewett is listed at http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ He enlisted in the Union Army and is a Civil War Vet. http://recorder.cuyahoga.oh.us/resources.htm He's buried at Lakeview Cemetery as a Veteran Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "doriswaggoner@juno.com" <doriswaggoner@juno.com> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2005 9:30 pm Subject: [OHCUYAHO] JEWETT, Moses, Oct 3, 1788 Hollis NH - 1850 ? Cleveland ? > > Looking for info on Moses JEWETT, b. Oct 3, 1788, Hollis NH, moved > to Conn at unknown age., married Eunice ANDREWS, b. 1792, > probably there. Family story says they came to Cleveland in 1808. > Have record of his buying a burial plot there in 1810, so he was > there at least that early. Children Esther A. b. 1813; George A. > b. 1816; Lydia A, b. 1818; Alvah b. 1821; Charles Porter b. 1825; > Eunice b. May 30, 1828; Mary Jane, b. 1830; Julia Towsley, b. > 1833. The children at least through Alvah were born in Cleveland. > Eunice, my ancestor, was born in Newburgh (now Newburgh Heights). > > > In Newburgh, the family lived on a farm on Miles Ave, and he was a > prominent farmer, as he had been prominent in Cleveland, though I > do not yet know his occupation there. Apparently his sons were > prominent businessmen and his daughters moved in society. > > His wife died in 1832, and in 1836 he married Adeline ADAMS. She > had eight children of her own. Moses and Adeline had two children > together, both of whom died as infants. Charles Porter JEWETT > married his stepsister Adeline ADAMS. > > Oddly enough, several of the ADAMS children and their families are > buried in the plot Moses JEWETT purchased, but he is not. I have > not been able to find his burial place. > > Some stories indicate he died in 1850. However, the place varies. > One says Cleveland. An obituary for his daughter Eunice's > husband Nicholas S. BASTION states that before their marriage in > 1851, Eunice lived in Dayton, OH with her father. This implies he > was still alive then. Numerous queries in that area have turned > up nothing. Neither have queries in the Cleveland area. > > I would appreciate any information at all on Moses JEWETT, either > on his early life in Cleveland, or on his death. > > Thank you, > Doris Waggoner > Seattle > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Register your surnames and queries at > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

As listed in " Landowners from the 1874 Atlas of Cuyahoga County, Ohio" page 50 JEWETT C.P. Newburgh Township Lots 466. I have a small copy of this map if you'd like it. Please go to http://recorder.cuyahogacounty.us/ Go to search database, then general search Change the date box to 01/01/1850 and put in Jewett Moses, it will bring you up two early deeds for Moses, one to the Railroad and one to Charles Click on the number to the left and it'll bring you up a printable deed. You can then put in the other Jewett names. Looks like Charles has quite a few deeds and one is to Alvah. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "doriswaggoner@juno.com" <doriswaggoner@juno.com> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2005 9:30 pm Subject: [OHCUYAHO] JEWETT, Moses, Oct 3, 1788 Hollis NH - 1850 ? Cleveland ? > > Looking for info on Moses JEWETT, b. Oct 3, 1788, Hollis NH, moved > to Conn at unknown age., married Eunice ANDREWS, b. 1792, > probably there. Family story says they came to Cleveland in 1808. > Have record of his buying a burial plot there in 1810, so he was > there at least that early. Children Esther A. b. 1813; George A. > b. 1816; Lydia A, b. 1818; Alvah b. 1821; Charles Porter b. 1825; > Eunice b. May 30, 1828; Mary Jane, b. 1830; Julia Towsley, b. > 1833. The children at least through Alvah were born in Cleveland. > Eunice, my ancestor, was born in Newburgh (now Newburgh Heights). > > > In Newburgh, the family lived on a farm on Miles Ave, and he was a > prominent farmer, as he had been prominent in Cleveland, though I > do not yet know his occupation there. Apparently his sons were > prominent businessmen and his daughters moved in society. > > His wife died in 1832, and in 1836 he married Adeline ADAMS. She > had eight children of her own. Moses and Adeline had two children > together, both of whom died as infants. Charles Porter JEWETT > married his stepsister Adeline ADAMS. > > Oddly enough, several of the ADAMS children and their families are > buried in the plot Moses JEWETT purchased, but he is not. I have > not been able to find his burial place. > > Some stories indicate he died in 1850. However, the place varies. > One says Cleveland. An obituary for his daughter Eunice's > husband Nicholas S. BASTION states that before their marriage in > 1851, Eunice lived in Dayton, OH with her father. This implies he > was still alive then. Numerous queries in that area have turned > up nothing. Neither have queries in the Cleveland area. > > I would appreciate any information at all on Moses JEWETT, either > on his early life in Cleveland, or on his death. > > Thank you, > Doris Waggoner > Seattle > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Register your surnames and queries at > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >