On Wed, 11 May 2005 08:06:30 -0500, "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: >I will inquire of the CPL as to whether they would be agreeable to searching the actual newspapers for deaths when a date of death can be supplied. Just tell them that you could not locate it in the Necrology database BUT your sources indicate that the person did die on such-and-such date in Cleveland. They know that their Necrology database is not complete and will have no problem with such a request. They usually check the papers for a period of about a week after the date of death. Don't be surprised if it takes 3-4 weeks to hear back from them. I don't know what their backlog is these days. -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

In a message dated 5/10/05 5:33:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kowallek@iglou.com writes: Now that I think about it ... I don't think there is any charge for just a couple of obits. If you can site the reference there is no charge for up to 3 obits.

This is from an email to the list in the past. I have sent for obits and city directory pages, with great success. Barbara, in Florida www.cpl.org > Cleveland Public Library, those located out of the area can email for > three free obituaries. They also copy maps, city directory pages. Microform.center@cpl.org is the request email address. FILE CONTENTS of the Cleveland Necrology File: This database was produced from a microfilmed copy of an alphabetical card file containing local cemetery records and newspaper death notices gathered by the staff of the Cleveland Public Library. A small collection of records from the Cleveland Bureau of Vital Statistics and some indexed items from the Annals of Cleveland were also part of the original card file and are also included in the database. The newspaper source material consists of paid notices which were published in the following newspapers: Cleveland Plain Dealer, 1850-1975, the Cleveland Herald, 1833, 1847-1848, 1876, 1878-1879 and the Cleveland Press, August 16, 1941 - 1975. Note: This file is not an official or complete record of deaths in the Cleveland area during those years. It was not always customary during this time period for individuals to use paid newspaper notices. In addition, the cemetery records included in this database may not be complete.

Copies of all Cleveland newspapers are on microfilm at the Main CPL branch. Check with the librarians there, but I'm sure some procedure is in place to deal with out-of-towners. -----Original Message----- From: Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:06:24 -0500 Subject: [OHCUYAHO] CPL Necrology Index Hello, Thank you for your information. Now, could you please tell me how should I, a non-resident of Ohio, check the Cleveland newspapers for an obituary assuming that I know the date of death. Can this be done on-line or done by postal letter directly to the Cleveland newspaper or some other way e.g. RAOGK? Which is the best most efficient route to take in making the inquiry for an obituary? Thank you, Bette > If you know the date of death, check the newspapers on the days following > that date. I found my great-grandfather's death notice (1922) and his > son's death notice (1907) in the Cleveland newspapers, when they were not > in the necrology. I asked the librarian about this discrepancy, and he > replied that when the necrology file was in hard copy in file cases people > would remove them for various reasons (they wanted a remembrance of the > death or they didn't want the record on public view). He said this > happened more than you would imagine. Every time I can't find an item that > I really need in the necrology, I check the Cleveland newspapers. ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb website at (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks to Jack, Cynthia, Dennis & sabolj@aol.com for your help with the issues relating to the matter of obtaining obituaries from the Cleveland newspaper(s) via the CPL. I think the critical words here might be the difference between a death notice, as found in the CPL Necrology Index, and an actual published obituary. Another critical point may be the matter of deaths that occurred before the time period represented by the more contemporary database, "CLENIX". I will inquire of the CPL as to whether they would be agreeable to searching the actual newspapers for deaths when a date of death can be supplied. Many thanks, Bette

On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:22:26 -0500, "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: >Can anyone clarify a point? If a listing is found in the CPL Necrology >Index will the death record ordered from Microform.Center@cpl.org. reflect >the exact same information as that found online in the CPL Necrology Index >or could there be more detail forthcoming e.g. an obituary format? My experience is that the librarian will first look in the Necrology database. If he/she finds a record there they will just print that out and send it to you. So I wouldn't bother to ask in this case. If you feel for certain that there may have been a full obituary (as opposed to just a death notice), I would specifically ask them to look for that. -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

If you know the date of death, check the newspapers on the days following that date. I found my great-grandfather's death notice (1922) and his son's death notice (1907) in the Cleveland newspapers, when they were not in the necrology. I asked the librarian about this discrepancy, and he replied that when the necrology file was in hard copy in file cases people would remove them for various reasons (they wanted a remembrance of the death or they didn't want the record on public view). He said this happened more than you would imagine. Every time I can't find an item that I really need in the necrology, I check the Cleveland newspapers. -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia Mac Suibhne <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] CPL Necrology Index I've gone to CPL several times and I've ordered online being from out of town and I've never seen an copied obituary or indexed cemetery card read any different then what's on the CPL site. Only the CPL later obits (those after 1975) would contain more information then posted online (Clenix). Of course if someone is not listed at either CPL site then they didn't have an obit. The only way I've ever looked further would be in a case where there might be a small article on the death, my great grandfather was a Cleveland Policeman and was killed in 1923, that offered more then the obit. Cindy Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: Can anyone clarify a point? If a listing is found in the CPL Necrology Index will the death record ordered from Microform.Center@cpl.org. reflect the exact same information as that found online in the CPL Necrology Index or could there be more detail forthcoming e.g. an obituary format? Bette > >>3) If I couldn't find any records for them in the Necrology index, should >>I >>bother looking further for obituaries? And who to contact for assistance >>with that? > > Yes, you should still look. The library will look them up for a minimal > charge. Email them at Microform.Center@cpl.org. > > -- > > Dennis M. Kowallek > kowallek@iglou.com > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please remember to change your subject lines to correspond with your message and capitalize all surnames. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hello, Thank you for your information. Now, could you please tell me how should I, a non-resident of Ohio, check the Cleveland newspapers for an obituary assuming that I know the date of death. Can this be done on-line or done by postal letter directly to the Cleveland newspaper or some other way e.g. RAOGK? Which is the best most efficient route to take in making the inquiry for an obituary? Thank you, Bette > If you know the date of death, check the newspapers on the days following > that date. I found my great-grandfather's death notice (1922) and his > son's death notice (1907) in the Cleveland newspapers, when they were not > in the necrology. I asked the librarian about this discrepancy, and he > replied that when the necrology file was in hard copy in file cases people > would remove them for various reasons (they wanted a remembrance of the > death or they didn't want the record on public view). He said this > happened more than you would imagine. Every time I can't find an item that > I really need in the necrology, I check the Cleveland newspapers.

Another hint for finding "missing" obits or notices, instead of just checking the papers for the days following the death, make sure you check subsequent Sunday newspapers or if a holiday was soon to follow, check that paper as well. A lot of times, families try to save a few dollars on the notice by putting notices into only the papers that would reach the most people: i.e. Sundays and holidays. Not everyone gets the paper every day. Jean --- sabolj@aol.com wrote: > If you know the date of death, check the newspapers > on the days following that date. I found my > great-grandfather's death notice (1922) and his > son's death notice (1907) in the Cleveland > newspapers, when they were not in the necrology. I > asked the librarian about this discrepancy, and he > replied that when the necrology file was in hard > copy in file cases people would remove them for > various reasons (they wanted a remembrance of the > death or they didn't want the record on public > view). He said this happened more than you would > imagine. Every time I can't find an item that I > really need in the necrology, I check the Cleveland > newspapers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cynthia Mac Suibhne <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> > To: OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:29:58 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] CPL Necrology Index > > > I've gone to CPL several times and I've ordered > online being from out of town > and I've never seen an copied obituary or indexed > cemetery card read any > different then what's on the CPL site. > > Only the CPL later obits (those after 1975) would > contain more information then > posted online (Clenix). Of course if someone is not > listed at either CPL site > then they didn't have an obit. > > The only way I've ever looked further would be in a > case where there might be a > small article on the death, my great grandfather was > a Cleveland Policeman and > was killed in 1923, that offered more then the obit. > > Cindy > Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: > Can anyone clarify a point? If a listing is found in > the CPL Necrology > Index will the death record ordered from > Microform.Center@cpl.org. reflect > the exact same information as that found online in > the CPL Necrology Index > or could there be more detail forthcoming e.g. an > obituary format? > > Bette > > > > >>3) If I couldn't find any records for them in the > Necrology index, should > >>I > >>bother looking further for obituaries? And who to > contact for assistance > >>with that? > > > > Yes, you should still look. The library will look > them up for a minimal > > charge. 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On Wed, 11 May 2005 03:29:58 -0700 (PDT), Cynthia Mac Suibhne <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> wrote: >Of course if someone is not listed at either CPL site then they didn't have an obit. This is not true ... especially for the pre-1975 obits. I know they found one for me that was not in the Necrology file. So if you don't find it online, you should still ask. -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

I've gone to CPL several times and I've ordered online being from out of town and I've never seen an copied obituary or indexed cemetery card read any different then what's on the CPL site. Only the CPL later obits (those after 1975) would contain more information then posted online (Clenix). Of course if someone is not listed at either CPL site then they didn't have an obit. The only way I've ever looked further would be in a case where there might be a small article on the death, my great grandfather was a Cleveland Policeman and was killed in 1923, that offered more then the obit. Cindy Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: Can anyone clarify a point? If a listing is found in the CPL Necrology Index will the death record ordered from Microform.Center@cpl.org. reflect the exact same information as that found online in the CPL Necrology Index or could there be more detail forthcoming e.g. an obituary format? Bette > >>3) If I couldn't find any records for them in the Necrology index, should >>I >>bother looking further for obituaries? And who to contact for assistance >>with that? > > Yes, you should still look. The library will look them up for a minimal > charge. Email them at Microform.Center@cpl.org. > > -- > > Dennis M. Kowallek > kowallek@iglou.com > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Please visit the Cuyahoga County GenWeb Website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohcuyaho/cuyaoh.htm ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Can anyone clarify a point? If a listing is found in the CPL Necrology Index will the death record ordered from Microform.Center@cpl.org. reflect the exact same information as that found online in the CPL Necrology Index or could there be more detail forthcoming e.g. an obituary format? Bette > >>3) If I couldn't find any records for them in the Necrology index, should >>I >>bother looking further for obituaries? And who to contact for assistance >>with that? > > Yes, you should still look. The library will look them up for a minimal > charge. Email them at Microform.Center@cpl.org. > > -- > > Dennis M. Kowallek > kowallek@iglou.com >

Hi. I have just acquired death and cemetery records for two of my ancestors in 1907. Joseph and Gertrude SIRL lived at 3188 W 56, ward 2 at their time of death (Gertrude died 2-28-1907 and Joseph died 5-3-1907). They were buried in St. Joseph's Cemetery. 1) Does anyone know which church(es) they might have attended near their home as German Catholics? 2) Are there any maps of Cleveland online which would help me pinpoint where they lived? Showing the Wards? (As you can guess, I'm not from the Cleveland area) 3) If I couldn't find any records for them in the Necrology index, should I bother looking further for obituaries? And who to contact for assistance with that? Thanks in advance. Kelly Moran moranfamilytree@hotmail.com

On Tue, 10 May 2005 17:03:11 -0400, Dennis Kowallek <kowallek@iglou.com> wrote: >Yes, you should still look. The library will look them up for a minimal >charge. Email them at Microform.Center@cpl.org. Now that I think about it ... I don't think there is any charge for just a couple of obits. -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

On Tue, 10 May 2005 20:42:17 +0000, "Kelly Moran" <moranfamilytree@hotmail.com> wrote: >3) If I couldn't find any records for them in the Necrology index, should I >bother looking further for obituaries? And who to contact for assistance >with that? Yes, you should still look. The library will look them up for a minimal charge. Email them at Microform.Center@cpl.org. -- Dennis M. Kowallek kowallek@iglou.com ******************

Hi Cindy, John didn't come up in the Ancestry pension files. He is listed in the "American Civil War Soliers" with this info: John Sharkey, enlisted as private on 24 Aug 1861 at age 20; Distinguished Service, Union, for OH, unit numbers 1698 (I have no idea what this unit # means); Enlisted in Co K, 2nd Cavalry Regiment on 10 Oct, 1861, mustered out 11 Sept 1865 Cavalry. Then under "Civil War Service Records"; John Sharky, 2 OH Cavalry, Private in, Private out, Notes: John Sharkey, Union (Means he was also known with this spelling). Hope this helps. Rose ----- Original Message ----- > Would someone please do an Ancestry lookup in the Civil War Pension files for John Sharkey/Sharky Cleveland Oh. > Thanks, Cindy

Would someone please do an Ancestry lookup in the Civil War Pension files for John Sharkey/Sharky Cleveland Oh. Thanks, Cindy --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.

Cindy, If I may make a suggestion; contact r.m.cousins@reevesweb.com . Peggy Reeves does research at the National Archives, and she is excellent. She may be able to find the file that they seem to have "misplaced". Her rates are also very reasonable. She was able to locate a file of my great grandfathers, that contained 247 pages of personal information that I would not have received had I gone through the NARA. Just a thought Good Luck Roberta Bear ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Mac Suibhne" <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:15 AM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Cuyahoga County Veterans Affairs > Hello, > Early 2004 I requested from NARA onlilne order the Civil War Service file > and Pension file for a Lake County Veteran George VORCE. He enlisted in > New York but resided in Lake County after his release, his widow requested > his pension. NARA sent me a letter stating that this file was not in their > possesion and that I should request it from Cuyahoga County Veterans > Affairs. I did and heard nothing, then I called and tried to speak to > someone there, someone who had no idea they had Civil War files. I waited > and heard nothing. I have written 3 other letters none have been answered. > Someone told me to request them again through NARA because if the > researchers can't seem to locate them right away they tell you to look > elsewhere, I did that and I just recieved an email from NARA saying they > can't locate his file and will send me a letter, no doubt telling me to > contact Cuyahoga County VA. > Has anyone had to deal with the VA for this purpose? I live out of town > but if it meant getting the pension file I'd make the drive. Another > question why is a Lake County Veteran's file with Cuyahoga County and not > with NARA or Lake County. Both he and his widow died and are buried in > Lake County and she was a lifelong resident. > Okay any insight would be helpful. > Thanks, > Cindy > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Please remember to change your subject lines to correspond with your > message and capitalize all surnames. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Thanks to all who gave me some direction on how to locate these files. I agree that his transfer from the 2nd reg't to the 9th reg't may be causing some confusion. I do have a couple of names willing to go and locate the files for me. This is a great group of genealogist who are willing to share their experience. Have a nice weekend, Cindy Cynthia Mac Suibhne <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> wrote: I went on to Ancestry and found the pension index card. David Vorce listed as Invalid has a pension application number given 17 Aug 1896, his widow filed 3 Nov 1923 and was given an application number. Both of them are also given certificate numbers and at the bottom of the index card is XC 2719583 I take it that's the pension number. I gave them that the first request but they came up with nothing. The only other thing I can think of is that David mustered in with the Co. K 2nd Reg't Heavy Art'y but was transferred to Co K 9th Reg't. I don't think I listed both reg't on my request but still the pension should be there for both David Vorce reg't right? I'm going to try one more time. Thanks to those for their input, Cindy --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== Virus warnings RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are not allowed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. A recent virus, and several imitations of it, may result in your receiving an e-mail (or a greeting card) with a virus attached, that appears to come from RootsWeb or from an address you are familiar with. Some virus will send a message to all the unread messages in the infected person's mailbox folders; another will use addresses found in the infected person's address book. They send messages using a forged address (for instance, using RootsWeb or the infected person in the return address). The subject line may be from a message that was recently received, making it even more credible. While it may appear to come from RootsWeb, that is only an illusion of the virus -- our address and the subject line is a forgery. What can you do? Protect yourself by never opening an attachment from someone you do not know, or that look suspicious. If an unexpected attachment comes from someone you do know, write to confirm that the attachment was sent by them prior to opening it. If you have an e-mail from RootsWeb, and there is an attachment of any kind, don't open it. Use a virus protection program. Know what viruses are out there so you will recognize one when if you get it. There are sites that will help you, including those shown below. http://housecall.antivirus.com/pc_housecall/ http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ http://www.stanford.edu/group/partners/hoaxes.shtml http://kumite.com/myths/ http://www.mcafee.com/centers/anti-virus/default2.asp http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/newapt.htm Remember, if you do not open the attachment, you can not get infected with the virus. Delete it. Then empty the trash bin to make sure it is gone. If you are using an e-mail program that stores attachments elsewhere on your computer, such as Eudora, find it there and delete it too. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

Cynthia, I wrote to NARA for pension papers for William HONEYWELL who had a pension card at Ancestry. I sent the card copy with my order. to my surprise I got back a telephone book size file because he had enlisted under two names in two different regiments: one volunteer and one regular army. I think some of these problems happen depending on who pulls your order. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cynthia Mac Suibhne" <barkupthetree@yahoo.com> To: <OHCUYAHO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] NARA and David VORCE > I went on to Ancestry and found the pension index card. David Vorce listed as Invalid has a pension application number given 17 Aug 1896, his widow filed 3 Nov 1923 and was given an application number. Both of them are also given certificate numbers and at the bottom of the index card is XC 2719583 I take it that's the pension number. > I gave them that the first request but they came up with nothing. The only other thing I can think of is that David mustered in with the Co. K 2nd Reg't Heavy Art'y but was transferred to Co K 9th Reg't. I don't think I listed both reg't on my request but still the pension should be there for both David Vorce reg't right? > I'm going to try one more time. > Thanks to those for their input, > Cindy > > > --------------------------------- > Discover Yahoo! > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! > > > ==== OHCUYAHO Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings > > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are not allowed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. > > A recent virus, and several imitations of it, may result in your receiving an e-mail (or a greeting card) with a virus attached, that appears to come from RootsWeb or from an address you are familiar with. Some virus will send a message to all the unread messages in the infected person's mailbox folders; another will use addresses found in the infected person's address book. They send messages using a forged address (for instance, using RootsWeb or the infected person in the return address). The subject line may be from a message that was recently received, making it even more credible. While it may appear to come from RootsWeb, that is only an illusion of the virus -- our address and the subject line is a forgery. > > What can you do? Protect yourself by never opening an attachment from someone you do not know, or that look suspicious. If an unexpected attachment comes from someone you do know, write to confirm that the attachment was sent by them prior to opening it. If you have an e-mail from RootsWeb, and there is an attachment of any kind, don't open it. Use a virus protection program. Know what viruses are out there so you will recognize one when if you get it. There are sites that will help you, including those shown below. > > http://housecall.antivirus.com/pc_housecall/ > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ > http://www.stanford.edu/group/partners/hoaxes.shtml > http://kumite.com/myths/ > http://www.mcafee.com/centers/anti-virus/default2.asp > http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/newapt.htm > > Remember, if you do not open the attachment, you can not get infected with the virus. Delete it. Then empty the trash bin to make sure it is gone. If you are using an e-mail program that stores attachments elsewhere on your computer, such as Eudora, find it there and delete it too. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >