According to his death certificate there is a Lawrence Schmalz (my brother) in St. Adelbert's Cemetery. There is a record of his death at St. Adelbert's church but no info on where his grave is located. The funeral home was Kuhn & Sons at 3371 55th. St. Does anyone know if the funeral home records would shed any light on his location in the cemetery? Who would now have those records? I will visit Cleveland in a couple months and would like to visit his grave if possible. There is a great possibility that there was no tombstone so the most I could hope for is a grave site location. He was 2 weeks old when he died in 1939. Gordon

I recently received two separate packets containing death certificates. Two of the death certificates are identical except that they are in different handwriting and one has the "File Number" hand written in the upper right corner. Does anyone know why there would be two? See them at: http://www.glsmall.com/genealogy/schmalz/death_deex_angeline.htm Thanks, Gordon

I did the search on www.google.com for the Stephen Morse Web site that I suggested yesterday (I couldn't remember the URL and was short of time). It is: http://www.stevemorse.org and is easier to get to than going into one of his sub-links and then working backward to his Home Page. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: March 01, 2007 4:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com Robert, I absolutely agree with you (about Dr. Morse's search page) and so does this months Family Tree Magazine! Had a HUGE article on it and was listed as one of the best for ship manifest searches....He also has a "like" form for Castle Garden as well. This would definitely be my FIRST stop for ship manifests! If you're interested, check out the interview between Stephen P. Morse and Family Tree Magazine at: _www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp_ (http://www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp) Happy Hunting! Amy Byrd Family Tree Magazine Subscriber <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You could do a search at www.google.com for "Microsoft Word" and "genealogy" and "Excel" and "genealogy" to see if there is material on the Internet on this subject. I would imagine this local society would not be posting this to the Internet. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: March 01, 2007 9:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] "Using Microsoft Word and Excel in EnhancingGenealogical Rese... Listers, Could there be a www site that might have the hand outs posted for those of us that might be too far away to make it? Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA In a message dated 3/1/2007 2:09:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: "Using Microsoft Word and Excel in Enhancing Genealogical Research" is the topic of the featured program presented by Margaret Cheney to the Lorain County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society on Monday, March 12, 2007 at the North Ridgeville Public Library, 35700 Bainbridge Road, North Ridgeville, OH. The program will show how to navigate through Excel or Microsoft Word or similar programs, make your own research charts, or put together your own book of genealogy information. Jean Copeland, VP Lorain County Chapter of OGS <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I understand Ohio began keeping both birth and death records in 1867. My grandfather William L. Smith gave his birthdate as August 17, 1889. Is there a birth index for Cuhahoga County for that time period that I can check? He grew up in Lorain, but there's no guarantee that he was actually born there. I suspect he may actually have been born in Cuyahogah County. Thanks, Will

I've been doing genealogy for about 6 years and never came across any birth index online for Ohio or for Cuyahoga county. Seems you have to ask the Bureau of Vital Statistics in that state or maybe ask the library or maybe even ask the Historical Society. Seems to me that they just don't look it up and give info. Seems you ask for it and send money and if they have it they will send it to you. christie "W. D. Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: I understand Ohio began keeping both birth and death records in 1867. My grandfather William L. Smith gave his birthdate as August 17, 1889. Is there a birth index for Cuhahoga County for that time period that I can check? He grew up in Lorain, but there's no guarantee that he was actually born there. I suspect he may actually have been born in Cuyahogah County. Thanks, Will ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everyone who emailed about the ship manifests. I was able to get the information I needed. My relatives did not come through Ellis Island and that is why I was needing someone to look up the information through Ancestry.com. This group is so helpful. Thanks again and Happy Searching. Sher

Listers, Could there be a www site that might have the hand outs posted for those of us that might be too far away to make it? Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA In a message dated 3/1/2007 2:09:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: "Using Microsoft Word and Excel in Enhancing Genealogical Research" is the topic of the featured program presented by Margaret Cheney to the Lorain County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society on Monday, March 12, 2007 at the North Ridgeville Public Library, 35700 Bainbridge Road, North Ridgeville, OH. The program will show how to navigate through Excel or Microsoft Word or similar programs, make your own research charts, or put together your own book of genealogy information. Jean Copeland, VP Lorain County Chapter of OGS <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Robert, I absolutely agree with you (about Dr. Morse's search page) and so does this months Family Tree Magazine! Had a HUGE article on it and was listed as one of the best for ship manifest searches....He also has a "like" form for Castle Garden as well. This would definitely be my FIRST stop for ship manifests! If you're interested, check out the interview between Stephen P. Morse and Family Tree Magazine at: _www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp_ (http://www.familytreemagazine.com/feb07/morse.asp) Happy Hunting! Amy Byrd Family Tree Magazine Subscriber <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

A good friend and was my best man at my wedding was Frederick W. Hall who died about 1964 and reported buried in Sunset Cemetery. A Goggle search turned up the Sunset Park Cemetery which I assume is the same. Can anyone assist in confirming he is buried there? Fred Chapman, Fredericksburg VA (formerly from Cleveland)

"Using Microsoft Word and Excel in Enhancing Genealogical Research" is the topic of the featured program presented by Margaret Cheney to the Lorain County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society on Monday, March 12, 2007 at the North Ridgeville Public Library, 35700 Bainbridge Road, North Ridgeville, OH. The program will show how to navigate through Excel or Microsoft Word or similar programs, make your own research charts, or put together your own book of genealogy information. Social Time is 6:30 pm; program and a general meeting at 7:00 pm. The public is invited to attend this free program.  For information about this program or about the Lorain County Chapter of OGS, contact Jean at [email protected]; or John at [email protected] Hope to see you there! Jean Copeland, VP Lorain County Chapter of OGS ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I think ellisisland.org may work better :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mahoney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > you don't have to be on ancestry to go to ellisisland.com and look for the > info you want > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charley Dantzer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:15 AM > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > > >> Hi fellow listers. I was wondering if some kind soul who is a member of >> ancestry.com could look up for ship manifests for a couple of my >> relatives >> who came to Cleveland. >> I am trying to get a copy from the SHip Koln landing in Baltimore about >> June 17, 1903 for Anna BRWZKOVA and her children, Antonie, Josefa, and >> Bartolomej and they went to Cleveland. >> Secondly a copy from ship Cassel manifest for Frank Kazimour and his >> brother Josef Bruzek which came to Baltimore about Aug. 20, 1902. >> And thirdly copy of ship manifest for Marie Bruzek coming on the >> Brandenburg on December 21, 1904 to Baltimore. >> Can anyone help? I would be ever so grateful . >> Thanks Sher >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 >> Tested on: 3/1/2007 9:46:38 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 > Tested on: 3/1/2007 11:16:23 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Interesting that is exactly what I said in my post! And I gave a direct link to his web page ! http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellis.html Robert Adele Just <[email protected]> wrote: You can access the Stephen Morse site for genealogy searches by searching for him at www.Google.com. He developed excellent software to search the Ellis Island database far more efficiently than the Ellis Island database software does. And you can use more parameters or variables for your search. Very efficient and quick! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Jerin Sent: March 01, 2007 1:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com The very BEST search page for Ellis Island records is Stephen Morse One Step... I have not used Ellis Island org for several years now, even though I am a paying member... as Morse's web page offers many better ways to search. Dr Morse uses the very same data base as Ellisisland.org http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellis.html Robert Gordon Small wrote: I think ellisisland.org may work better :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mahoney" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > you don't have to be on ancestry to go to ellisisland.com and look for > the info you want > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charley Dantzer" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:15 AM > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > > >> Hi fellow listers. I was wondering if some kind soul who is a member >> of ancestry.com could look up for ship manifests for a couple of my >> relatives who came to Cleveland. >> I am trying to get a copy from the SHip Koln landing in Baltimore about >> June 17, 1903 for Anna BRWZKOVA and her children, Antonie, Josefa, and >> Bartolomej and they went to Cleveland. >> Secondly a copy from ship Cassel manifest for Frank Kazimour and his >> brother Josef Bruzek which came to Baltimore about Aug. 20, 1902. >> And thirdly copy of ship manifest for Marie Bruzek coming on the >> Brandenburg on December 21, 1904 to Baltimore. >> Can anyone help? I would be ever so grateful . >> Thanks Sher >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 >> Tested on: 3/1/2007 9:46:38 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com >> >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 > Tested on: 3/1/2007 11:16:23 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Washington DC." Barry Goldwater ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Washington DC." Barry Goldwater

You can access the Stephen Morse site for genealogy searches by searching for him at www.Google.com. He developed excellent software to search the Ellis Island database far more efficiently than the Ellis Island database software does. And you can use more parameters or variables for your search. Very efficient and quick! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Jerin Sent: March 01, 2007 1:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com The very BEST search page for Ellis Island records is Stephen Morse One Step... I have not used Ellis Island org for several years now, even though I am a paying member... as Morse's web page offers many better ways to search. Dr Morse uses the very same data base as Ellisisland.org http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellis.html Robert Gordon Small <[email protected]> wrote: I think ellisisland.org may work better :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mahoney" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > you don't have to be on ancestry to go to ellisisland.com and look for > the info you want > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charley Dantzer" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:15 AM > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > > >> Hi fellow listers. I was wondering if some kind soul who is a member >> of ancestry.com could look up for ship manifests for a couple of my >> relatives who came to Cleveland. >> I am trying to get a copy from the SHip Koln landing in Baltimore about >> June 17, 1903 for Anna BRWZKOVA and her children, Antonie, Josefa, and >> Bartolomej and they went to Cleveland. >> Secondly a copy from ship Cassel manifest for Frank Kazimour and his >> brother Josef Bruzek which came to Baltimore about Aug. 20, 1902. >> And thirdly copy of ship manifest for Marie Bruzek coming on the >> Brandenburg on December 21, 1904 to Baltimore. >> Can anyone help? I would be ever so grateful . >> Thanks Sher >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 >> Tested on: 3/1/2007 9:46:38 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com >> >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 > Tested on: 3/1/2007 11:16:23 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Washington DC." Barry Goldwater ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The very BEST search page for Ellis Island records is Stephen Morse One Step... I have not used Ellis Island org for several years now, even though I am a paying member... as Morse's web page offers many better ways to search. Dr Morse uses the very same data base as Ellisisland.org http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellis.html Robert Gordon Small <[email protected]> wrote: I think ellisisland.org may work better :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Mahoney" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > you don't have to be on ancestry to go to ellisisland.com and look for the > info you want > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charley Dantzer" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:15 AM > Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > > >> Hi fellow listers. I was wondering if some kind soul who is a member of >> ancestry.com could look up for ship manifests for a couple of my >> relatives >> who came to Cleveland. >> I am trying to get a copy from the SHip Koln landing in Baltimore about >> June 17, 1903 for Anna BRWZKOVA and her children, Antonie, Josefa, and >> Bartolomej and they went to Cleveland. >> Secondly a copy from ship Cassel manifest for Frank Kazimour and his >> brother Josef Bruzek which came to Baltimore about Aug. 20, 1902. >> And thirdly copy of ship manifest for Marie Bruzek coming on the >> Brandenburg on December 21, 1904 to Baltimore. >> Can anyone help? I would be ever so grateful . >> Thanks Sher >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 >> Tested on: 3/1/2007 9:46:38 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 > Tested on: 3/1/2007 11:16:23 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Washington DC." Barry Goldwater

Located all three. We cannot send attachments on the list, therefore, if no one else has sent you these, please let me know if you wish me to send you the images off-list. Pat in Florida <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

you don't have to be on ancestry to go to ellisisland.com and look for the info you want ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charley Dantzer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Ancestry.com > Hi fellow listers. I was wondering if some kind soul who is a member of > ancestry.com could look up for ship manifests for a couple of my relatives > who came to Cleveland. > I am trying to get a copy from the SHip Koln landing in Baltimore about > June 17, 1903 for Anna BRWZKOVA and her children, Antonie, Josefa, and > Bartolomej and they went to Cleveland. > Secondly a copy from ship Cassel manifest for Frank Kazimour and his > brother Josef Bruzek which came to Baltimore about Aug. 20, 1902. > And thirdly copy of ship manifest for Marie Bruzek coming on the > Brandenburg on December 21, 1904 to Baltimore. > Can anyone help? I would be ever so grateful . > Thanks Sher > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 > Tested on: 3/1/2007 9:46:38 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000720-0, 03/01/2007 Tested on: 3/1/2007 11:16:23 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Thank you for the info. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Campbell Lifter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] death certificates in Cuyahoga County > This is the main page for the library. > http://www.akronlibrary.org/ > > This is the page for the Special Collections Division. > http://www.akronlibrary.org/main-sc.html > > > > Yolanda Campbell Lifter > Malabar, FL > member, Association of Professional Genealogists http://apgen.org > > Ohio Family Research http://ohiofamilyresearch.com > OH Genealogy http://ohgenealogy.com > > county coordinator, Brown County, OHGenWeb http://ohgenealogy.com/brownco > county coordinator, Pike County, OHGenWeb http://ohgenealogy.com/pikeco > county coordinator, New Castle County, DEGenWeb > http://ohgenealogy.com/newcastleco > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jim" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:21 AM > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] death certificates in Cuyahoga County > > > >I know of this E_Mail address,but what is the web site address. Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert A Grace" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] death certificates in Cuyahoga County > > > > > >> Anna, > >> If your death certificate is between 1909 and 1953, you can get a copy > >> from this e-mail address: [email protected] for about > >> $1.25. If you go to Columbus, OH for this certificate, you will pay > >> upwards of $15.00 for the same document. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi fellow listers. I was wondering if some kind soul who is a member of ancestry.com could look up for ship manifests for a couple of my relatives who came to Cleveland. I am trying to get a copy from the SHip Koln landing in Baltimore about June 17, 1903 for Anna BRWZKOVA and her children, Antonie, Josefa, and Bartolomej and they went to Cleveland. Secondly a copy from ship Cassel manifest for Frank Kazimour and his brother Josef Bruzek which came to Baltimore about Aug. 20, 1902. And thirdly copy of ship manifest for Marie Bruzek coming on the Brandenburg on December 21, 1904 to Baltimore. Can anyone help? I would be ever so grateful . Thanks Sher

Lewis's birth month is listed as July. Here is what may be your William Smith family in 1900 1900 Cuyahoga, Cleveland, Ward 17 living at 17 Wadsworth Street, indexed as SCHMIDT, William, Head, Oct 1850, 49, married 25 yrs, b. Germany, immigrated 1872, Alien, Day Laborer Anna, wife, Dec 1854, 45, 8 children / 4 living, b. OH, Germany, Germany Anna, daughter, Feb 1878, 22, Vest Maker Louisa, daughter, June 1882, 17, Vest Maker George, son, Dec 1895, 14, at school William, son Apr 1890, 10, at school Children born OH ---- "W. D. Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > Anyone have info on these families? > > 1910 Cuyahoga County, Cleveland, Ward 15 > > William Smith age 59 born Germany > Annie age 55 born Ohio > Annie...........age 32 > George.........age 24 > WILLIAM ...age 20 (accurate insofar as 1920 census, WW1 draft card, and > grandpa's death certificate) > > Could NOT find the above family in 1900....Hope they're around in the same > area... > > 1900 Lagrange, Lorain, OH > > Stella..........age 48 > Anna..........age 20 > Flossie........age 13 > LEWIS.......age 11 (Grandpa's name was William LOUIS Smith, born 1889 per > his WW1 draft record. Does this census give month of birth as August??) > Fanny..........age 10 > Ray.............age 7 > Melvin Pier.....age 26 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message