Robert and others, Thank you for your comments/suggestions both public and private. As usual when I read the comments/suggestions of others I thought of other details I should have put into to make this a more effective call for help: My ancestor Anthony Rucki died 26 Dec 1929 in Toledo, Lucas County. His parents are named on his death certificate as: John Rucki & Katarzyna Zalewski. John & Katarzyna are reported to have been born in Poland on his death certificate. Anthony is reported to have be born in Poland on the death certificate but his WWI draft registration card (presumeably filled out by himself) reports his place of birth as Somza, Russia. I've been crossing my fingers that his parents made it to the US with him but I have no proof of this at this point except a brief mention of a John Rucki (Louisa) at 3361 Lagrange in the 1923 Polk directory. My Anthony is also noted there on that year at 2821 Buckeye. This is all far removed from the Cleveland area I understand but having no luck in Lucas County I'm now chasing down Rucki's (John's and Katarzyna's first) outside of Lucas County in hopes of finding some reference of relationship to my Lucas County Anthony Rucki. The obituaries of Anthony Rucki were unique and multiple as he hung himself in the family home. Unfortunately there was no mention in the english language news articles of his suicide and final obituary. As I review the documents I have found about Anthony there is an obituary that is I believe in Polish, Ameryka Echo, Monday 30 Dec 1929, page 8, C. 6. If anyone with a talent to read Polish would be interested in reviewing this for me I can scan a copy by email. I did an extensive search of the Cleveland Public Library; Cleveland Necrology File today with the following wildcards Ruc*, Ruk*, Rue*, etc. but didn't find the John Rucki that I have the death certificate for that died in Cleveland 26 Feb 1936. This would be a good canidate for my Anthony's father timeline wise. In fact I didn't find one Rucki in this database. I subscribe to www.newspaperarchives.com but this collection currently doesn't have newspapers from Cleveland. Does the Cleveland Public Library have their local newspapers on film by chance? If not who might archive such a collection? Again, I appreciate everyone's comments/suggestions. Any further points are always welcome. Bill Gatchell San Antonio, TX On 3/4/07, Robert Jerin <[email protected] > wrote: > > Bill, > > I don't find a listing for John RUCKI in the Cleveland Library Necrology > files. > > > http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0&next=/html/obit_start.html&dbchoice=1:dbname=necr&bad=html/authofail.html&style=noframe > > According to the 1930 census a John RUCKI worked at a woolen mill. Many > Poles in Cleveland worked at CLEVELAND WORSTED MILL CO. The area where the > mill was located is now called Slavic Village after the Slavic people who > settled there at the turn of the century, most of whom were Poles. There > were also Czechs and Croatians who settled that area. > > http://ech.case.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=CWMC > > John lived with a Czech family... they lived about a block behind the mill > to the west. > > The 1918 WW I Draft Registration shows a John RUCKI living on Gallup Ave, > just north of the 1930 address, b'date listed as Dec 25 1875 next kin Anna > RUCKI living in Sliczko, Austria-Hungary (Poland was split 3 ways in the > late 1770s with the west going to Prussia, the east to Russia and the south > to Austria, the Austrian part was called Galicia or Galicy) > > The 1930 census stated he arrived1909, there is a Jan RUCKI arr Nov 1909 > at the Port of NY from Jaworzynka, Galicy whose next of kin was wife Anna > Destination to brother Mihal at Boomer W VA > > Robert Jerin > > Bill Gatchell <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm looking for some help finding the obituary for John Rucki who died 25 > Feb 1936. I have a copy of the death certificate which shows he died in > Cleveland. > > Could someone point me in the right direction; I haven't done research in > the Cleveland area before and I live in Texas. > > Thanks, > > Bill Gatchell > San Antonio, TX >

Do you by any chance know where I can find a birth record of Sept. 1892 in Cleveland. His name Archie Paul Bliss but we do not believe Bliss was his real name. His mother gave him up at age one and he lived for a time at the Protestant Orphan home in cleveland. Do you know where these records might be. It is probably our only hope in finding out if Bliss was his fathers name or not. We have info it wasn't but not confirmed. Thanks Debbie <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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A totally generous offer! How kind of you to do this! OK, here's a list of what I need...... JUST KIDDING! Maybe you could say what you are willing to do. For instance, if you are close to cemeteries etc. I agree that helping others makes a person feel good. I took pictures of graves for someone and the experience was immensely rewarding. I live in Medina, so if anyone needs anything out this way, let me know. Judy In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:17:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > > I have been doing Cuyahoga County genealogical research for about 35 years > and enjoy helping others if I can. Want help? No cost. Let me know. > Makes > me feel good to help other researchers. > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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Pat, I believe the poster said that he already had a Death Certificate... but then since the original message was deleted from your reply it is difficult to say for certain. Don't you agree that it is easier to leave the original message in the response so when someone else is adding info to an existing thread? Robert [email protected] wrote: Try this website for helpful info on searching in Cleveland and Cuyahoga County. _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#TOP_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#TOP) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Washington DC." Barry Goldwater

Bill, I don't find a listing for John RUCKI in the Cleveland Library Necrology files. http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0&next=/html/obit_start.html&dbchoice=1:dbname=necr&bad=html/authofail.html&style=noframe According to the 1930 census a John RUCKI worked at a woolen mill. Many Poles in Cleveland worked at CLEVELAND WORSTED MILL CO. The area where the mill was located is now called Slavic Village after the Slavic people who settled there at the turn of the century, most of whom were Poles. There were also Czechs and Croatians who settled that area. http://ech.case.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=CWMC John lived with a Czech family... they lived about a block behind the mill to the west. The 1918 WW I Draft Registration shows a John RUCKI living on Gallup Ave, just north of the 1930 address, b'date listed as Dec 25 1875 next kin Anna RUCKI living in Sliczko, Austria-Hungary (Poland was split 3 ways in the late 1770s with the west going to Prussia, the east to Russia and the south to Austria, the Austrian part was called Galicia or Galicy) The 1930 census stated he arrived1909, there is a Jan RUCKI arr Nov 1909 at the Port of NY from Jaworzynka, Galicy whose next of kin was wife Anna Destination to brother Mihal at Boomer W VA Robert Jerin Bill Gatchell <[email protected]> wrote: I'm looking for some help finding the obituary for John Rucki who died 25 Feb 1936. I have a copy of the death certificate which shows he died in Cleveland. Could someone point me in the right direction; I haven't done research in the Cleveland area before and I live in Texas. Thanks, Bill Gatchell San Antonio, TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fred Here are two obits in the Cleveland Obituary file. Are one of these him? Id#: 0532719 Name: Hall, Frederick Thomas Date: Aug 15 1964 Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #115. Notes: Hall. Frederick Thomas Hall, of 3241 Ormond Rd., Cleveland Heights, husband of the late Elsie (nee Devey), beloved father of La Verne Rogers and the late Ralph, and grandfather, brother of Harry and Myrtle, Thursday, Aug. 13. Friends may call at the Claus Funeral Home, 11200 Miles Ave. Services Saturday, Aug. 15, at St. Martin Chapel of St. Paul Church of Cleveland Heights, 2747 Fairmount Blvd., at 1:30 p. m. Id#: 0532718 Name: Hall, Lieut. Com. Frederick W. Date: Nov 11 1958 Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #115. Notes: Hall, Lieut. Com. Frederick W., beloved husband of Mary Ann (nee Smith), father of Joyce and Billy, son of Mr. and Mrs. William H. Hall, nephew of L. J. Hall and Mrs. W. J. Rubin, residence, Pompano Beach, Fla., passed away Nov. 8. Friends received 3-5 And 7-9 P. M. Tuesday at The Saxton Funeral Home, 13215 Detroit Ave., where services will be held Wednesday, Nov. 12, at 1:30 p. m. Interment Sunset Memorial Park. If he died in 1958 then he would be at Sunset Memorial Park in North Olmsted, Ohio. Trina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Chapman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Sunset Park Cemetery >A good friend and was my best man at my wedding was Frederick W. Hall > who died about 1964 and reported buried in > Sunset Cemetery. A Goggle search turned up the Sunset Park Cemetery > which I assume is the same. > Can anyone assist in confirming he is buried there? > Fred Chapman, Fredericksburg VA > (formerly from Cleveland) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for some help finding the obituary for John Rucki who died 25 Feb 1936. I have a copy of the death certificate which shows he died in Cleveland. Could someone point me in the right direction; I haven't done research in the Cleveland area before and I live in Texas. Thanks, Bill Gatchell San Antonio, TX

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a long lost great uncle who went to cleveland and lost touch with the va. family who mainly lives now in harrisburg.this harry lee had a son named bernard lee and i believe his children and grandchildren may still live in or near cleveland,ohio. which was our last address from the 1950's. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "W D Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: [OHLORAIN] Obit lookups requested >I would be most grateful for Obit lookups on the following Augusta >Smith's/Schmidt's who died Cuyahoga County. I do not have access to >Ancestry. Sure wished I did, but they only accept credit cards, and I can't >get one: > > Augusta Smith - died July 24, 1926 > Augusta Schmidt - died December 10, 1922 > Augusta Schmidt - died July 31, 1929 > > I suspect one of these three women may have been my great-grandmother. > > Thanks, > > Will Smith > Tennessee > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 3/3/2007 > 8:12 AM > >

SORRY, this was mean't to go to the CUYAHOGA list. These three were in Cuyahoga County. Will ----- Original Message ----- From: W. D. Smith To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Obit lookups requested I would be most grateful for Obit lookups on the following Augusta Smith's/Schmidt's who died Cuyahoga County. I do not have access to Ancestry. Sure wished I did, but they only accept credit cards, and I can't get one: Augusta Smith - died July 24, 1926 Augusta Schmidt - died December 10, 1922 Augusta Schmidt - died July 31, 1929 I suspect one of these three women may have been my great-grandmother. Thanks, Will Smith Tennessee

Hello, I have a "Return of a Birth" for my grandmother, born in Cleveland in 1891. It was submitted to The Board of Health of the City of Cleveland. 1891 is pre-printed on the form. The info requested is: DOB, Sex, Color, Nativity, color & age of each parent, place of child's birth (64 Clara St.), Full name of each parent, Name of medical attendant or midwife & the address. Hand written at the top of the form, likely by a clerk--"Filed in Order". I wish I could make out the midwife's name! Oddly, there is no request for the child's name, which was Amanda Johanna Marie Schultz (Dill). I don't know the source of the copy since this was among Granpa's papers. He probably requested it sometime during the 40's or 50's. So, at least by 1891, some sort of birth record was available though, perhaps, not required. Sorry, I can't offer any more help... Marla <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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Will You may want to contact the Cuyahoga County Archives for a look up. or if you live in the area, visit it. http://centralservices.cuyahogacounty.us/archives/default.htm I have quite a few return of birth records from 1893 and on. These records show date of birth, sex, color, nativity of mother & father, their ages. Father's name and mother's maiden name, place of birth of child and medical attendant. When you contact them, give as much info as possible. (dob & parents name, if known) Karen ---- CHRISTIE FOX <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been doing genealogy for about 6 years and never came across any birth index online for Ohio or for Cuyahoga county. Seems you have to ask the Bureau of Vital Statistics in that state or maybe ask the library or maybe even ask the Historical Society. Seems to me that they just don't look it up and give info. Seems you ask for it and send money and if they have it they will send it to you. > > christie > > > > "W. D. Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand Ohio began keeping both birth and death records in 1867. My > grandfather William L. Smith gave his birthdate as August 17, 1889. Is there > a birth index for Cuhahoga County for that time period that I can check? He > grew up in Lorain, but there's no guarantee that he was actually born there. > I suspect he may actually have been born in Cuyahogah County. > > Thanks, > > Will > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:09:07 -0600, "W. D. Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: >I understand Ohio began keeping both birth and death records in 1867. My >grandfather William L. Smith gave his birthdate as August 17, 1889. Is there >a birth index for Cuhahoga County for that time period that I can check? He >grew up in Lorain, but there's no guarantee that he was actually born there. >I suspect he may actually have been born in Cuyahogah County. Take a look at... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html and http://www.ohiohistory.org/resource/archlib/brthdth1.html#birthbetween1867and1908 It might have been required before 1908, but you will find that this requirement was often ignored. IOW, you will be lucky to find a birth record before 1908. You might want to look for church records instead. -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio [email protected] ******************