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>i am 73 and started teaching myself 3 yrs ago and took >on the computer at the same time. You are very brave and valiant, ma'am <grin>. A huge job well dared and well done! I'm hoping that Peggy or some of the other local researchers can make more real progress with clues on the kids of Douglas Phillips and of Mabel Phillips Luis in the Cleveland area. City directories, old phone books, marriage records, etc. Maybe through the church or the cemetery. And I hope they find more about Jessie and Bernard. All in all, I suspect that it would be exciting to have a few more relatives at the next reunion <grins>. I've about come to the end of the resources I have access to long distance. I would be glad to help puzzle out clues if you would like, but we should probably take that off-list. [email protected] >my mom's family >was slave and free right in this area.it is a wonderfull place to live and >talk about everyday..my dad's family was slave and free 150 miles away in >washington,va. problems for us lie in finding manumission statements and wondering >what slave ships we came in on because we came in and were given new names You've done much of the hard part already. If you have tracked both sides back that far, and in 3 years, you have done a truly wonderful job!!! Don't talk at me about skills, lady. You're doing it..... <grins>. Linda

linda i can tell you've been doing this for a long long time.i am 73 and started teaching myself 3 yrs agoa and took on the computer at the same time.know i won't live long enough to acquire your skills but really do thank you,quo wright of williamsburg,va.i have to do mine on line as don't drive but can walk over to william and mary college to read thru the census and other va. history,of which they have a marvelous collection and so does colonial williamsburg where i work.ever been to colonial williamsburg or jamestown,va.?all of america's english history started 6 miles away at jamestown .my mom's family was slave and free right in this area.it is a wonderfull place to live and talk about everyday..my dad's family was slave and free 150 miles away in washington,va. problems for us lie in finding manumission statements and wondering what slave ships we came in on because we came in and were given new names .hopefully my kids will find that after i am gone .thanks again. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:36:44 -0500, "Richard Chafin" <[email protected]> wrote: >I don't have the list address but if you know it I will try . Thanks! An index to all rootsweb lists can be found at... http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/index.html -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio [email protected] ******************

I don't have the list address but if you know it I will try . Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Kowallek" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] info > On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:23:17 -0500, "Richard Chafin" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>Can someone tell me where in Berlin you can get genealogy records and >>information? I need the name of the place. > > Have you tried one of the GERMAN lists? > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek > Cincinnati, Ohio > [email protected] > > ****************** > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:23:17 -0500, "Richard Chafin" <[email protected]> wrote: >Can someone tell me where in Berlin you can get genealogy records and information? I need the name of the place. Have you tried one of the GERMAN lists? -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio [email protected] ******************

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I'm sorry. I meant Berlin, Germany. I am looking for marriage, birth,death and church records. I'm trying to trace my great and g.g.grandparents. I am trying to find out where to start over there and Berlin does have a lot of records. Since my daughter is in Berlin visiting a friend, she was going to see if she could find out any info on them or where to find it. Also,pay to order them while she is there if possible. It would be cheaper I have been told. If she can't find anything this trip her friend will check for me. It is great to have connections and they speak German! Thanks for the help. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Jerin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Records for Berlin > Do you mean Berlin, Ohio? And exactly what kind of records? > > Robert > > Richard Chafin <[email protected]> wrote: > Could someone on the list tell me where to get genealogy records in > Berlin? > Thank you , > Cindy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Washington > DC." > Barry Goldwater > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This has nothing to do with this posting but in reading your reply, I noticed you were having trouble sending mail to the list. I to have been trying to post to the list and it has been several hour ago and nothing has gone through. Is there a problem? I apologize for the duplication of my posting that hasn't appeared yet. Thanks, Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "leoandlinda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Live out-of-state and need help in Cuyahoga County? > Peggy's been finding some really terific stuff!! Good work, lady! > > I have just a little bit, but I have more questions <sorry grin>. > > I sent some of this to the list at about 1:00, and now after 7:00, it > still hasn't appeared in my inbox..... Usually takes a few minutes, > not many hours, so I suspect it may have gotten lost or delayed in > cyberspace. If the short original eventually shows up on the list, I > do apologize for the duplication. > > I'm repeating a couple of things so that the pieces can be next to > each other for comparison. > > Id#: 0277397 > Name: Phillips, Minnie > Date: Jun 29 1949 > Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #064. > Notes: Phillips, Minnie (nee Briscoe), 9110 Blaine Ave.; June 27; > beloved wife of Harry; mother of Howard Bernard Phillips, Maybelle > Luis of Cleveland, Charlotte Hendricks of Los Angeles, Cal. Friends > may call at the House of Wills, where funeral services will be > conducied Thursday at 2:30 p. m. Interment Evergreen Memorial Park. > > Id#: 0671684 > Name: Phillips, Howard B. > Date: Jun 8 1968 > Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #144. > Notes: Phillips. Howard B. Phillips, dear husband of Maude, father of > Lois Moore of Los Angeles and Douglas, brother of Sharlotte Mosby of > Los Angeles and Mabel Luis, grandfather and uncle. Services Monday 1 > P. M. at Antioch Baptist Church. Family will receive friends at The E. > F. Boyd and Son Funeral Home, 2165 E. 89th St. On Sunday 7-9 P. M. > > Allowing for some variants in the girls' names [Charlotte/Sharlotte > would be Lottie in the 1910 census and Mabel/Maybelle would have been > our Mabel G in that census], this clearly seems to be son Howard. > > *The most exciting for clues on finding living relatives are:* > > It is likely that Mrs. Mabel (Phillips) Luis and her brother Howard's > son Douglas Phillips were somewhere roughly around the Cleveland area > as late as 1968, although possibly not in Cleveland itself. > > Mrs. Charlotte (Phillips) Hendricks was already in Los Angeles in > 1949. She later married someone named Mosby before 1968. And > Howard's daughter Mrs Lois (Phillips) Moore was in Los Angeles before > 1968. Both families were undoubtedly in contact out there. > > Howard's obit says he is 'grandfather and uncle'. So either son > Douglas or daughter Lois, or both, had children. Also, at least one > of Howard's siblings had children. > > As late as 1968, at least part of the family was associated with > Antioch Baptist Church, probably on the near east side of Cleveland. > If this church still exists, there may be records of this family. For > that matter, family may still be members....... Contact the church. > > If Minnie was buried in Evergreen Memorial Park, there may been other > family burials there, including family we haven't stumbled across so > far. Contact the cemetery. > > Peggy found: >> In 1930, Harry L. Phillips was 64, >>and lived with his wife Minnie, and children, Lee B. Phillips, Charlotte >>D. >>Phillips, Jessie M. Phillips, as well as his brother-in-law, Corwin C. >>Gossett >>(meaning that Minnie's maiden name was probably Gossett). > Her obit said 'Briscoe', so Gossett may have been a half-brother. Or > Corwin Gossett may have been married to one of Minnie's sisters. Not > uncommon to have a relative move up, get settled in a job, and then > move the family. > >>could not find address book but did look back at ancestry.com in the 1910 >>Cuyhoga,ohio Cleveland ,ward 26-found harry lee phillips(49) ,minnie >>m.(40)Lee >>Bernard(21,Howard(17,Mabel G.(17)Lottie(5),Jessie(3) all listed as >>mulattoes.he was a contractor and bernard is an apprentice in masonry.the >>youngest 3 >>born in ohio ,the mother in pa.and i think the first 2 boys were born in >>va.so >>harry was born 1860 > > Yep, Harry L. was apparently born in the 1860s. Per the 1930 census, > he was b prox 1866. Per the 1910, he was b prox 1861. The later one > might be the most trustworthy....... Many a young man 'aged' by about > 5 years when he moved to the city on his own. > > > Miscellaneous questions: > > Must admit, I am curious about Jessie. She is in the census with her > folks in 1930 at age abt age 33, and yet is not mentioned in either > later obit. I suspect she may have died before Minnie, but that is > just an assumption. Some families do not include mentions of deceased > family members in obits. I just don't know. > > I am also wondering about possible Bernard confusions..... In the > 1910 census, there is an elder Lee Bernard and a younger Howard no > middle name. In the 1930 census, there is clearly a Lee B., about > 41. In Minnie's obit in 1949 there is a Howard Bernard, but no Lee > mentioned. I guess I am wondering if Lee Bernard had died between > 1930 and 1949, and if Howard had taken his older brother's use-name as > his middle name. > > It's not impossible that people named one son Lee Bernard and another > son Harold Bernard....... Just sets off a small red flag in my head > to be careful, I guess. The 'Bernard' in your dad's early address > book was likely to have been Lee Bernard, who went by Bernard. > Especially since he seemed to be still in and close with his parents > as an adult. But we still haven't found out about what happened to > Lee Bernard after 1930. > > Hope things go well in finding the nowadays folks. > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could someone on the list tell me where to get genealogy records in Berlin? Thank you , Cindy

Peggy's been finding some really terific stuff!! Good work, lady! I have just a little bit, but I have more questions <sorry grin>. I sent some of this to the list at about 1:00, and now after 7:00, it still hasn't appeared in my inbox..... Usually takes a few minutes, not many hours, so I suspect it may have gotten lost or delayed in cyberspace. If the short original eventually shows up on the list, I do apologize for the duplication. I'm repeating a couple of things so that the pieces can be next to each other for comparison. Id#: 0277397 Name: Phillips, Minnie Date: Jun 29 1949 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #064. Notes: Phillips, Minnie (nee Briscoe), 9110 Blaine Ave.; June 27; beloved wife of Harry; mother of Howard Bernard Phillips, Maybelle Luis of Cleveland, Charlotte Hendricks of Los Angeles, Cal. Friends may call at the House of Wills, where funeral services will be conducied Thursday at 2:30 p. m. Interment Evergreen Memorial Park. Id#: 0671684 Name: Phillips, Howard B. Date: Jun 8 1968 Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #144. Notes: Phillips. Howard B. Phillips, dear husband of Maude, father of Lois Moore of Los Angeles and Douglas, brother of Sharlotte Mosby of Los Angeles and Mabel Luis, grandfather and uncle. Services Monday 1 P. M. at Antioch Baptist Church. Family will receive friends at The E. F. Boyd and Son Funeral Home, 2165 E. 89th St. On Sunday 7-9 P. M. Allowing for some variants in the girls' names [Charlotte/Sharlotte would be Lottie in the 1910 census and Mabel/Maybelle would have been our Mabel G in that census], this clearly seems to be son Howard. *The most exciting for clues on finding living relatives are:* It is likely that Mrs. Mabel (Phillips) Luis and her brother Howard's son Douglas Phillips were somewhere roughly around the Cleveland area as late as 1968, although possibly not in Cleveland itself. Mrs. Charlotte (Phillips) Hendricks was already in Los Angeles in 1949. She later married someone named Mosby before 1968. And Howard's daughter Mrs Lois (Phillips) Moore was in Los Angeles before 1968. Both families were undoubtedly in contact out there. Howard's obit says he is 'grandfather and uncle'. So either son Douglas or daughter Lois, or both, had children. Also, at least one of Howard's siblings had children. As late as 1968, at least part of the family was associated with Antioch Baptist Church, probably on the near east side of Cleveland. If this church still exists, there may be records of this family. For that matter, family may still be members....... Contact the church. If Minnie was buried in Evergreen Memorial Park, there may been other family burials there, including family we haven't stumbled across so far. Contact the cemetery. Peggy found: > In 1930, Harry L. Phillips was 64, >and lived with his wife Minnie, and children, Lee B. Phillips, Charlotte D. >Phillips, Jessie M. Phillips, as well as his brother-in-law, Corwin C. Gossett >(meaning that Minnie's maiden name was probably Gossett). Her obit said 'Briscoe', so Gossett may have been a half-brother. Or Corwin Gossett may have been married to one of Minnie's sisters. Not uncommon to have a relative move up, get settled in a job, and then move the family. >could not find address book but did look back at ancestry.com in the 1910 >Cuyhoga,ohio Cleveland ,ward 26-found harry lee phillips(49) ,minnie m.(40)Lee >Bernard(21,Howard(17,Mabel G.(17)Lottie(5),Jessie(3) all listed as >mulattoes.he was a contractor and bernard is an apprentice in masonry.the youngest 3 >born in ohio ,the mother in pa.and i think the first 2 boys were born in va.so >harry was born 1860 Yep, Harry L. was apparently born in the 1860s. Per the 1930 census, he was b prox 1866. Per the 1910, he was b prox 1861. The later one might be the most trustworthy....... Many a young man 'aged' by about 5 years when he moved to the city on his own. Miscellaneous questions: Must admit, I am curious about Jessie. She is in the census with her folks in 1930 at age abt age 33, and yet is not mentioned in either later obit. I suspect she may have died before Minnie, but that is just an assumption. Some families do not include mentions of deceased family members in obits. I just don't know. I am also wondering about possible Bernard confusions..... In the 1910 census, there is an elder Lee Bernard and a younger Howard no middle name. In the 1930 census, there is clearly a Lee B., about 41. In Minnie's obit in 1949 there is a Howard Bernard, but no Lee mentioned. I guess I am wondering if Lee Bernard had died between 1930 and 1949, and if Howard had taken his older brother's use-name as his middle name. It's not impossible that people named one son Lee Bernard and another son Harold Bernard....... Just sets off a small red flag in my head to be careful, I guess. The 'Bernard' in your dad's early address book was likely to have been Lee Bernard, who went by Bernard. Especially since he seemed to be still in and close with his parents as an adult. But we still haven't found out about what happened to Lee Bernard after 1930. Hope things go well in finding the nowadays folks. Linda

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this is our Harry Lee-his son must be named Bernard Lee.thank you very much.i also find another phillips went to Cleveland -William Strother Phillips born may 30th,1868,died sept.24,1945.his father was white named william john huff,his mother a mulattoe cousin named lucy phillips-she had 10 children with hom and they are found in the rappahannock census till 1920,still together.Strother married an ida Ware Sloan.the sloans are often married into the family.i got that from a cousin who would have been his great great niece and we are trying to connect out two phillips sides together but she was raised in harrisburg where all the family went .their are several Lucy's in the family ,each genration has one.when the white phillips moved to ohio they carried their workers(some slave ,some free-phillips were suposedly free)with them trying to find manumission papers .thank you so much for your help. <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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Thank you! Very helpful link and advise! Terri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Kowallek Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] Death records and wills On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:19:22 -0500, "Black Family" <[email protected]> wrote: >Can someone please tell me where to go for death records and wills for >deaths that occurred in 1909? I'm not sure from my research if I need >the Probate Court or the Department of Health. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#DEATHS The Probate Court would be the likely place for a will. -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio [email protected] ****************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Terri: For information on death certificates for 1909, see my website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html The wills for 1909 would be at the Probate Court in downtown Cleveland. Good luck Laura On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:19:22 -0500 "Black Family" <[email protected]> writes: > Can someone please tell me where to go for death records and wills > for > deaths that occurred in 1909? I'm not sure from my research if I > need the > Probate Court or the Department of Health. > > Thank you, > > Terri Bates Black > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:19:22 -0500, "Black Family" <[email protected]> wrote: >Can someone please tell me where to go for death records and wills for >deaths that occurred in 1909? I'm not sure from my research if I need the >Probate Court or the Department of Health. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~officer/CuyOhFAQ.html#DEATHS The Probate Court would be the likely place for a will. -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio [email protected] ******************

Look at this! Name: Phillips, Minnie Date: Jun 29 1949 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #064. Notes: Phillips, Minnie (nee Briscoe), 9110 Blaine Ave.; June 27; beloved wife of Harry; mother of Howard Bernard Phillips, Maybelle Luis of Cleveland, Charlotte Hendricks of Los Angeles, Cal. Friends may call at the House of Wills, where funeral services will be conducied Thursday at 2:30 p. m. Interment Evergreen Memorial Park. ____________________________________ <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Can someone tell me where in Berlin you can get genealogy records and information? I need the name of the place. Thanks. Cindy