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This topic has been declared OFF TOPIC. RE: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) DO NOT CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. Holly Timm Listowner -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of K A T H L E E N Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:23 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) Be Proud of Being Catholic (Excerpts of an article written by Sam Miller, a prominent Cleveland Jewish businessman - NOT Catholic) Submitted by Dee Lynd > Why would newspapers carry on a vendetta on one of > the most important institutions that we have today > in the United States, namely the Catholic Church? > > Do you know - the Catholic Church educates 2.6 > million students everyday at the cost to your Church > of 10 billion dollars, and a savings on the other > hand to the American taxpayer of 18 billion dollars. > Your graduates go on to graduate studies at the rate > of 92%, all at a cost to you. To the rest of the > Americans it's free. > > The Church has 230 colleges and universities in > the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students. > The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital > system of 637 hospitals, which account for hospital > treatment of 1 out of every 5 people - not just > Catholics - in the United States today. > > But the press is vindictive and trying to totally > denigrate in every way the Catholic Church in this > country. They have blamed the disease of pedophilia > on the Catholic Church, which is as irresponsible as > blaming adultery on the institution of marriage. > > Let me give you some figures that you as Catholics > should know and remember. For example, 12% of the > 300 Protestant clergy surveyed admitted to sexual > intercourse with a parishioner; 38% acknowledged > other inappropriate sexual contact in a study by the > United Methodist Church, 41.8 % of clergywomen > reported unwanted sexual behavior; 17% of laywomen > have been sexually harassed. Meanwhile, 1.7% of the > Catholic clergy has been found guilty of pedophilia. > 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found > guilty of pedophilia. This is not a Catholic > Problem. > > A study of American priests showed that most are > happy in the priesthood and find it even better than > they had expected, and that most, if given the > choice, would choose to be priests again in face of > all this obnoxious PR the church has been receiving. > >The Catholic Church is bleeding from > self-inflicted wounds. The agony that Catholics have > felt and suffered is not necessarily the fault of > the Church. You have been hurt by a small number of > wayward priests that have probably been totally > weeded out by now. > > Walk with your shoulders high and you head higher. > Be a proud member of the most important > non-governmental agency in the United States. Then > remember what Jeremiah said: 'Stand by the roads, > and look and ask for the ancient paths, where the > good way is and walk in it, and find rest for your > souls'. Be proud to speak up for your faith with > pride and reverence and learn what your Church does > for all other religions. Be proud that you're a > Catholic. > > Reprinted excerpts with permission of the Buckeye > Bulletin - courtesy of Brookside Council #3297, > Cleveland Diocese. Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of wnthornton@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:50 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) That is the most stupid reason. I am a very loyal Catholic but sometimes these rulings(if true) are the dumbest. Do we really believe that one can be converted after death. If one wanted to be converted they would do it while alive. -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Rozhon <srozhon@oh.rr.com> To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:05 am Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) Well I can see the Vatican's point, but it sure sucks for all us genealogists waiting for some of these records. Bah humbug. Sandyy On 17 May 2008 at 6:57, CHRISTIE FOX wrote: > News > Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons > In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of > Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout > the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give > information in parish registers to the Mormons´ Genealogical > Society of Utah. An April 5 letter from the Vatican > Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in > late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to > keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing > information contained in those registers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Be Proud of Being Catholic (Excerpts of an article written by Sam Miller, a prominent Cleveland Jewish businessman - NOT Catholic) Submitted by Dee Lynd > Why would newspapers carry on a vendetta on one of > the most important institutions that we have today > in the United States, namely the Catholic Church? > > Do you know - the Catholic Church educates 2.6 > million students everyday at the cost to your Church > of 10 billion dollars, and a savings on the other > hand to the American taxpayer of 18 billion dollars. > Your graduates go on to graduate studies at the rate > of 92%, all at a cost to you. To the rest of the > Americans it's free. > > The Church has 230 colleges and universities in > the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students. > The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital > system of 637 hospitals, which account for hospital > treatment of 1 out of every 5 people - not just > Catholics - in the United States today. > > But the press is vindictive and trying to totally > denigrate in every way the Catholic Church in this > country. They have blamed the disease of pedophilia > on the Catholic Church, which is as irresponsible as > blaming adultery on the institution of marriage. > > Let me give you some figures that you as Catholics > should know and remember. For example, 12% of the > 300 Protestant clergy surveyed admitted to sexual > intercourse with a parishioner; 38% acknowledged > other inappropriate sexual contact in a study by the > United Methodist Church, 41.8 % of clergywomen > reported unwanted sexual behavior; 17% of laywomen > have been sexually harassed. Meanwhile, 1.7% of the > Catholic clergy has been found guilty of pedophilia. > 10% of the Protestant ministers have been found > guilty of pedophilia. This is not a Catholic > Problem. > > A study of American priests showed that most are > happy in the priesthood and find it even better than > they had expected, and that most, if given the > choice, would choose to be priests again in face of > all this obnoxious PR the church has been receiving. > >The Catholic Church is bleeding from > self-inflicted wounds. The agony that Catholics have > felt and suffered is not necessarily the fault of > the Church. You have been hurt by a small number of > wayward priests that have probably been totally > weeded out by now. > > Walk with your shoulders high and you head higher. > Be a proud member of the most important > non-governmental agency in the United States. Then > remember what Jeremiah said: 'Stand by the roads, > and look and ask for the ancient paths, where the > good way is and walk in it, and find rest for your > souls'. Be proud to speak up for your faith with > pride and reverence and learn what your Church does > for all other religions. Be proud that you're a > Catholic. > > Reprinted excerpts with permission of the Buckeye > Bulletin - courtesy of Brookside Council #3297, > Cleveland Diocese. Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of wnthornton@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:50 AM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) That is the most stupid reason. I am a very loyal Catholic but sometimes these rulings(if true) are the dumbest. Do we really believe that one can be converted after death. If one wanted to be converted they would do it while alive. -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Rozhon <srozhon@oh.rr.com> To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:05 am Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) Well I can see the Vatican's point, but it sure sucks for all us genealogists waiting for some of these records. Bah humbug. Sandyy On 17 May 2008 at 6:57, CHRISTIE FOX wrote: > News > Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons > In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of > Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout > the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give > information in parish registers to the Mormons´ Genealogical > Society of Utah. An April 5 letter from the Vatican > Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in > late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to > keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing > information contained in those registers. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anybody tried to get a police report from an incident that old? Do they keep them somewhere, and if so, can the public usually get access? CHRISTIE FOX <christiefox@prodigy.net> wrote: call the Cleveland Public Library or go into their site cpl.org and either talk with their librarian there or email them. If they have it they will send it to you. Margral5@aol.com wrote: I am looking for a news article about the death of Richard A. Aldridge on Nov. 11, 1936 in Cleveland, OH. He was a passenger in a car that sidewiped a streetcar. The accident occured at the corner of Wheelock Rd ? (Hard to read from death certificate) and St. Clair Ave. I have the information from the Necrology file and I have the Ohio Death Certificate. I am hoping to find an actual news article relating to the incident. Thank you in advance. Margaret Cheney **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wed, 21 May 2008 23:38:33 EDT, Margral5@aol.com wrote: >I am looking for a news article about the death of Richard A. Aldridge on >Nov. 11, 1936 in Cleveland, OH. He was a passenger in a car that sidewiped a >streetcar. The accident occured at the corner of Wheelock Rd ? (Hard to read >from death certificate) and St. Clair Ave. > >I have the information from the Necrology file and I have the Ohio Death >Certificate. I am hoping to find an actual news article relating to the >incident. Have you tried contacting the library? Microform.Center@cpl.org -- Dennis Kowallek Cincinnati, Ohio kowallek@iglou.com ******************

call the Cleveland Public Library or go into their site cpl.org and either talk with their librarian there or email them. If they have it they will send it to you. Margral5@aol.com wrote: I am looking for a news article about the death of Richard A. Aldridge on Nov. 11, 1936 in Cleveland, OH. He was a passenger in a car that sidewiped a streetcar. The accident occured at the corner of Wheelock Rd ? (Hard to read from death certificate) and St. Clair Ave. I have the information from the Necrology file and I have the Ohio Death Certificate. I am hoping to find an actual news article relating to the incident. Thank you in advance. Margaret Cheney **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will be out of the office starting 05/22/2008 and will not return until 05/28/2008. I will be out of the office until Wednesday, May 28, 2008 and will respond to your message when I return.

I am sorry! The information I found was for the wrong Emil and Bertha Klewer. I realized my mistake about 5 minutes after I sent previous message - please disregard. Judy Davison Bill Frank <fairviewctr@yahoo.com> wrote: Seeking information on Bertha Kramp, born in Germany. Died in Cleveland. Married to Emil Klewer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, According to census and other information that I found, it appears that Bertha's maiden name may have been Koeffler. A Bertha Magdalena Koeffler (father's surname also Koeffler) married Emil B. Klewer in Ontario province, Canada in 1888 and they came to the U.S. in about 1891, first to Allegheny City/Pittsburgh (1900 and 1910 census), then to Detroit MI (1920 and 1930 census). They were still in Detroit in 1930, although Emil died in Cleveland in 1934. Census records are consistent that Bertha was born in Canada to German parents (from Wurtenburg). Emil is stated in some census records to be from Germany, but the 1930 census says he and both parents were born in Poland. I cannot find a death record in Ohio for Bertha. Is it possible she died in Detroit? Some interesting, though conflicting information. I'll send details from census and Cleveland necrology files to you personally in separate e-mail. Hope this helps. Judy Davison Bill Frank <fairviewctr@yahoo.com> wrote: Seeking information on Bertha Kramp, born in Germany. Died in Cleveland. Married to Emil Klewer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for a news article about the death of Richard A. Aldridge on Nov. 11, 1936 in Cleveland, OH. He was a passenger in a car that sidewiped a streetcar. The accident occured at the corner of Wheelock Rd ? (Hard to read from death certificate) and St. Clair Ave. I have the information from the Necrology file and I have the Ohio Death Certificate. I am hoping to find an actual news article relating to the incident. Thank you in advance. Margaret Cheney **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

http://search.labs.familysearch.org Is being updated but keep trying it you should be able to get the death certificate. Remember all of the familysearch sites are free. Eliz On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Bill Frank <fairviewctr@yahoo.com> wrote: > Born about 1871 in Wisconsin. Died about 1941 in Cleveland. Resided in > Chardon in mid 1920's. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi: Could either of these be your man? Name: Dix, John M. Date: Nov 10 1942 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #020. Notes: Dix: John M., father of George C. Dix, son of Louisa and the late Joseph, brother of Homer C., Joseph H., Mrs. Daniel L. Thomas, Mrs. George C. Jennings, William R. and Charles L. Dix, Friends may call at William R. & Roy A. Daniels' Funeral Home, 15800 Detroit, where services will be held Tuesday, Nov. 10, at 1:30 p. m. Name: Dix, John Date: Dec 17 1939 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #020. Notes: Dix: John, beloved husband of Elizabeth (nee Hillen), father of Gladys McIntyre, Margaret Sauke and John, jr., Saturday, Dec. 16, at the residence, 2021 W. 41st st. Friends may call at Schuster's Funeral Home, 5300 Denison ave. Funeral Tuesday, Dec. 19, from St. Mary's Church, W. 30th and Carroll ave., at 8 a. m. You can search for obits yourself at: http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/Authorize?sessionid=0&next=/html/obit.html&dbc hoice=1:dbname=necr&bad=html/authofail.html&style=noframe (the link above might split into two lines - make sure you get it all) Laura On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Bill Frank <fairviewctr@yahoo.com> writes: > Born about 1871 in Wisconsin. Died about 1941 in Cleveland. Resided > in Chardon in mid 1920's. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Belive it or not we can all learn from Each other. Bonnie Henson In a message dated 5/19/2008 9:32:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lostmarbles@filertel.com writes: Never knock another's religion, who knows, they be be right. ----- Original Message ----- From: <wnthornton@aol.com> To: <ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) > That is the most stupid reason. I am a very loyal Catholic but > sometimes these rulings(if true) are the dumbest. Do we really believe > that one can be converted after death. If one wanted to be converted > they would do it while alive. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Rozhon <srozhon@oh.rr.com> > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:05 am > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep > parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) > > > > Well I can see the Vatican's point, but it sure sucks for all us > genealogists waiting for some of these records. Bah humbug. > > Sandyy > > On 17 May 2008 at 6:57, CHRISTIE FOX wrote: >> News >> Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons >> In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of >> Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout >> the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give >> information in parish registers to the Mormons´ Genealogical >> Society of Utah. An April 5 letter from the Vatican >> Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in >> late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to >> keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing >> information contained in those registers. > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Reminds me of that poor old joke: How many (insert denomination here) you'll find in Heaven? . ...............None, they're all Christians...... Mom4god@aol.com wrote: Belive it or not we can all learn from Each other. Bonnie Henson In a message dated 5/19/2008 9:32:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lostmarbles@filertel.com writes: Never knock another's religion, who knows, they be be right. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) > That is the most stupid reason. I am a very loyal Catholic but > sometimes these rulings(if true) are the dumbest. Do we really believe > that one can be converted after death. If one wanted to be converted > they would do it while alive. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Rozhon > To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:05 am > Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] News - Vatican letter directs bishops to keep > parish records from Mormons (see notation below from Geneanet.org) > > > > Well I can see the Vatican's point, but it sure sucks for all us > genealogists waiting for some of these records. Bah humbug. > > Sandyy > > On 17 May 2008 at 6:57, CHRISTIE FOX wrote: >> News >> Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons >> In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of >> Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout >> the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give >> information in parish registers to the Mormons´ Genealogical >> Society of Utah. An April 5 letter from the Vatican >> Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in >> late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to >> keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing >> information contained in those registers. > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seeking information on Bertha Kramp, born in Germany. Died in Cleveland. Married to Emil Klewer.

Born about 1871 in Wisconsin. Died about 1941 in Cleveland. Resided in Chardon in mid 1920's.

Googling got me this http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/geauga/cemeteries <http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/geauga/cemeteries/auburn/> But I can't quite get the parent directory <G> I hate this Genweb moving around <G> Eliz On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Susan <myheritage@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/geauga/cemeteries/ > > Does anyone know where this moved to? > > Susan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think that is what I am looking for and I think it is here: http://www.usgwtombstones.org/ohio/geauga.htm I miss the little yellow folders Eliz Hanebury <elizhgene@gmail.com> wrote: Googling got me this http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/geauga/cemeteries But I can't quite get the parent directory I hate this Genweb moving around Eliz On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Susan wrote: > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/geauga/cemeteries/ > > Does anyone know where this moved to? > > Susan >

Cut the URL backwards to Geauga and that should get you in and you'll have to look for the Cemeteries link. -- Adele/Seattle -----Original Message----- From: ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohcuyaho-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eliz Hanebury Sent: May 20, 2008 6:42 PM To: ohcuyaho@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHCUYAHO] cemetery Googling got me this http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/geauga/cemeteries <http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/geauga/cemeteries/auburn/> But I can't quite get the parent directory <G> I hate this Genweb moving around <G> Eliz On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Susan <myheritage@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/geauga/cemeteries/ > > Does anyone know where this moved to? > > Susan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHCUYAHO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/geauga/cemeteries/ Does anyone know where this moved to? Susan