Herman B. Fagley writes "there is no Neville in 1812". Think most of us who have researched for years, in Clermont Co., know that. Believe i also said WASHINGTON twp. In 1812 this would be an area would have to dig in my research to find if Washington was a township then. That is the AREA he owned in. And SANFORD ALLEN GELVIN, to answer "who is this man Sanford Allen Gelvin", is my Gr. Gr. Grandfather and i have searched for his parents since the 1950s. And the rest of the details are in the query. Thank you, June P.S. Who is Herman B. Fagley??