Guess it would be more proper to say that,in 1821, when they married, Hannah Simpson,bride,and parents ,the John Simpson,Jr's lived in an old brick Thomas Page built, and that brick burned down,with multiple loss of life later [but I have a pacture of it] and many years later,Don Lancaster moved into,and remodeled the present house standing on the location of the Simpson-Page house. I can only guess the wedding took place there with Jesse Root Grant. JRG would,1850 be a leader of the Bethel Methodists. REV Moses Edwards,was Baptist,from Lyon's Farm,NJ .Nesamminy Presbyterian in Bucks Coi,Pa has Simpson and Medary records. Gov Sam Medary,whose 1st Ohio PAPERS WERE THE BETHEL JOURNL,AND CLERMONT SUN ,pre Columbus papers, said he wenr to elementary school in e Pa with Hannah Simpson ,mother of Pres-gen U.Simpson Grant. . Samuel Medary wrote he went to Quaker school in e Pa . Gen US GRANT, had anti-war newspaperman Gov Sam Medary jailed in the civil war for anti-war talk. 'Medary's" supermarket in your Williamsburg,Oh is from a brother of Gov Sam Medary. Another Medary brother's widow lived at n e corner of Plane and Union, Bethel,when her daughter,1857, married Oliver Grant, from s e corner of Plane and Charity, and moved to very ne ILL to the Grant leather store. Galena,Ill. [have their pictures]. There is a biography on Gov Sam Medary,once Gov OF Bloddy Kansas Territory,anf 1857,and then Minn Territory, and for many year,Ohio State PRINTER,and a power behind Ohio statehouse politics. Hannah Simpson' Grant's nephew ,Robert Bellville Simpson maried my Dad's Fagaly unt On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:45:10 -0500 Carl E Ely <carlely@juno.com> writes: > So you're saying that President Grants's parents were married in a > house that burned but sets on the land where Don Lancaster now > lives? > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:15 -0500 HERMON B FAGLEY > <hermfagley@juno.com> writes: > > Don Lancaster,on s Surgartree lives where the Simpson house burnt > > down. > > Thomas Page built it,and sold it,and 400 a to Simpson. Page also > > bought from > > Wm Simonds,the farm where Cracker and Dugie drown,and then went to > > > Pt Pleasant,and started a tannery,hiring Grant,Sr. > > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:56:14 -0500 Carl E Ely <carlely@juno.com> > > writes: > > > Which house are you referring to as where Grants parents were > > > married? The old O.T. Brown house next to Marty Robinson? The > > > tombstone that was vandalized was that of Gen. Richard Collins > > > across the drive from Cap't. Johnson. Johnson's was too big to > > > upset. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:24:52 -0500 HERMON B FAGLEY > > > <hermfagley@juno.com> writes: > > > > Thanks to modern Dr's,and medicine, I can , and am,hiking the > > > south > > > > birm > > > > of RT 125 [Ohio Pike-Beechmont Ave] near my home between > Bethel > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Bantam. And,at 1\2 mile east,and 1\2 mile west,I'm seeing 2 > > early > > > > farm homes, > > > > and seeing the out-lines of the James Shotwell- [?]Thomas > > Shelton > > > > JP-Elder- > > > > OT Brown stagecoach inn-farm house. And,I may soon come into > > > > view,down > > > > Sugartree,of the 1810 era Michael Strickland farmhouse [and > area > > > > > of > > > > his blacksmith > > > > shop?] > > > > I'm puzzling over 2 features of the frame 2 story Cape Cod of > > > > [?Jesse Justice?] , > > > > Robert Justice, Wm Penn Justice, and,in my memory,the Roger > > Queal > > > > > > > family. [estate?] > > > > 1st, it's angled with the highway. Did the road,1820 era, > follow > > a > > > > > > > differnt path. 2nd,it > > > > has far too many windows for a very,very old house,, though > > I've > > > > been told the floor joist are round,not sawed. > > > > Rev Jesse Justice built cabin[s] near the spring in the back > > yard > > > in > > > > 1805, when > > > > he 1st purchased 540 acres the same day as Thomas Page,George > > > > Swing,and Michael > > > > Strickland. NJ Methodists. Page's 400 acres just south > became > > > > > > John Simpson Jr's in 1818, > > > > and the old brick Page built burnt down, 1900 era,with > > > > multiple loss of life. President Grant's parents were married > in > > > > > it > > > > in 1821,by Rev Moses > > > > Edwards,of next farm south,and,once,Lyon's Farm,NJ. > > > > As I walk west, I'm passing Butch Loudoun's, which was given > to > > > > Miami U by > > > > Hubert and Rosalie Harris Douglass. It was Ed and Anabelle > > Justice > > > > > > > Harris's > > > > when I was a kid,and earlier Cliff Justice,and built[?] by > the > > > > Johnson's who > > > > went to Tell City,Indiana,and headed the National Civil War > > > Vetran's > > > > Group, the > > > > "Grand Army of the Republic" . Some kid paid for vandelizing > > > > Johnson's tall > > > > spire in the Old Bethel cemetary ,with critical injuries from > > the > > > > tombstone > > > > falling on him. It's the typical brick built here 1810-50's. > 2 > > > > > > stories. Plain front. > > > > Central door on 1st floor,and 2 windows each side. 5 windows > > wide > > > > > > > across the 2nd story > > > > a few are 3,or 7,but 5 is most common. No windows on the > narrow > > > > ends,for it's 1 room wide,and fireplaces on each end. > Kitchen > > > wing > > > > of 1 1\2 stories,with a little stairway,up to the low 'Hired > > man's > > > > > > > room " > > > > above the kitchen,that did "not" open onto the rest of the > 2nd > > > > floor,and the daughter's > > > > rooms,til Rosalie made an opening. Brick,and sometimes of > > frame, > > > > perhaps > > > > only the log cabin was more common in Clermont. > > > > Indeed,there was a similar brick exactly here,til my > > grandparents > > > > tore it > > > > down in 1903,to build this huge old frame. But,they saved > > > everying > > > > from the > > > > old brick,and used it building this house. Brick,doors, > > woodwork > > > > > > > are all here,just not on the > > > > ground floor. A high foundation,and 11 brick flues used mist > of > > > the > > > > brick,and they hid > > > > the last bit in the walls. This huge,seedy old frame swallowed > > > > that > > > > 1830's bricks. Even nails > > > > The aged large, hammered square nails from the 1830's were > > > reused > > > > in this 1903 house. > > > > But Savil Justice married his Blackman twin in 1824,and 1st > > moved > > > > her into a log cabin here. > > > > She was 16,like my Mary Hitch Ely,and my Mary Ann Fox Fagaly, > > and > > > my > > > > -whoever. > > > > And her twin m Wesley McClain, and ran the Nicholsville store. > > > > > Once,for many,many > > > > years,their ancestors had been Bargaintown,NJ neighbors.