I'll not comment on the Bethel Baptist church,and the Underground RR ,for I can think of no facts. I'll speak of the Baptist's around Andrew Coombs,at Lindale. There was a church split at that church,and\or the 1st west-the 1st 10 Mile Baptist. Mission and anti-Mission [Hard Shell]. Rev Orange Mott of the latter. "King" John Donham's line married into the Mott's. I'm speaking a step beyond any facts I've read,but I think the anti-Mission division opposed sending either missionary tracts, and\or missionaries into the South. They opposed stirring up trouble in the South. Va colony was officially Episcopal, and went thru a period, 1760,jailing Baptist ministers including Mt Washington's Corbley Road namesake's father. I've read the records of a Baptist church 'BROAD RUN" in Va 75 miles west of Wash DC. rEADING BETWEEN THE LINES-Iread of a church with,at times, only 11 white men members, and 100+ slaves belonging to non-members. And you wonder if they were jailing Baptist ministers more on slavery issues,than religious? Anyway, there was Rev tHOMPSON'S anti slavery Locust Creek Baptist assn just south of s e Clermont,in Bracken Co,Ky. That was far more anti-slavery than some Baptist Assn in the Bluegrass, but I'd think Rev John Gano's Forks of the Elkhorn church likely anti-slavery. I'll not make the jump from anti-slavery to abolutionist for Bethel's founders without knowing more. They accepted the divorced wife of a Ky-Mo slave trader living among them. I can far easier accept that their colony,from 1800,had Undergrond RRer's. Bethel Methodist's did,by 1830's. Was there a web of Clermont's doctors in the Underground RR? 1830'S PLUS. On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:52:41 -0500 "Hilda Lindner Knepp" <celtic@cinci.rr.com> writes: > Herm, > > Very interesting news today from the Bethel Baptist Church. It > appears from > the church records that the church was a member of several Ky. > Baptist > abolitionist associations. I have made contact with several > professors of > Ky. Baptist history to find out more information re these > associations. I > think it is quite possible that the member churches formed an UGRR > network. > This may be the basis on the continuing oral tradtion that the > church was > involved in the UGRR. It was, as you know, founded by > abolitionists. To > make the assertion that they were UGRR's, however, is at this point > premature. The idea is intriguing. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <celtic@cinci.rr.com>; <NM1955@aol.com>; > <jmarksbury@deerfield.edu>; > <AnnaW9241@aol.com>; <AOFN234@aol.com>; <arbowling11@yahoo.com>; > <barich@fuse.net>; <BJCBogie@aol.com>; <bobfagley@sisna.com>; > <brook@allianceresearch.com>; <carlely@juno.com>; > <COOLGRANDMAH@yahoo.com>; > <djabrams@juno.com>; <ellehi@one.net>; <HENCH1@aol.com>; > <Hendcoa@aol.com>; > <JBWAMW@aol.com>; <kristal@mindspring.com>; <laceyann@bright.net>; > <lbolende@knox.net>; <mille4@juno.com>; <mireton@kmisolutions.com>; > <nadenestacy@yahoo.com>; <pjeg@aristotle.net>; <RTBRWN@yahoo.com>; > <Rufpeg@aol.com>; <shogun1946@earthlink.net>; <tomluce@peoplepc.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 5:09 PM > Subject: Re: Mark Hanna? > > > > Chase,and Blake are new. > > Dr Chase likely was of the Maine colony at Lindale, so maybe > trained by > > Dr Wm Doane, > > or Dr Samuel Tibbets, or Dr Earnest Bragdon,or Dr Levitt Pease,or > > Dr Andrew Pinkham. The latter had a farm- nw,or at the Reisinger > boat > > dock > > of Lake Harsha,within a mile of GP Riley,and 2 miles of James > Bunting. > > The Wesleyian Methodist was on N Main's east side, [rt 133] 1\2 > block > > north of RT 125 [Plane] > > My Fagaly's came to Bethel abt 1850. I thought they joined right > away. > > How old was Dr WM E THOMPSON IN 1849. 12-15? His father d in > 1840,and > > built,about > > 1835,a brick > > a block+ south,on west side of s Main [RT 133] -STANDING. > > Isaac Holmes Brown was father-in-law of Wallace Fagley,and also > > grandfather of Clark Bratton. > > The house the little girl was in was very,very near my Dad's > garden. The > > Wesleyian church was at > > the "little school building' where some of us attended 1 and 2nd > grade. > > My Mom and aunt,and > > grandmother taught there. > > Janie Jegley lived with Dr Thompson . > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:32:42 -0500 "Hilda Lindner Knepp" > > <celtic@cinci.rr.com> writes: > > > Herm, > > > > > > Thanksfor the info. will follow up. > > > > > > Found another story you might find to be interesting. In 1849 > Dr. > > > W. E. > > > Thompson was asked by Dr. Silas Chase, Isaac H. Brown, and > Benjamin > > > Rice to > > > help them lure a little slave girl to freedom. According to the > > > story the > > > slave girl was with her masters from Maysville who were visiting > a > > > Mr. Blake > > > of Bethel. (I found an Edward Blake in the tax records) Thompson > was > > > asked > > > to go to a second story room of the Wesleyan Church which was > > > directly > > > opposite of a second story room of the Blake home. Thompson > tried > > > talking > > > the little girl into coming with him, but apparently she was > afraid. > > > The > > > 1880 history mentioned that the church was not formed until 1853 > > > which puts > > > some question into the authenticity of the story. It was based > upon > > > the > > > recollection of W.E. Thompson in 1931. I suppose we could give > the > > > old guy > > > some slack for remembering exact dates that many years > afterwards. > > > > > > Gary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > > > To: <celtic@cinci.rr.com> > > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:19 PM > > > Subject: Mark Hanna? > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if the Mark Hanna referred to is Mary Linda Hannah > and > > > Bob > > > > Wichard's son,Mark Wichard. Mark Wichard's great > grandfather,Gail > > > > Hannah, > > > > and grandfather,Bob Hannah ran Bethel's Hannah Hardware store > > > years, > > > > while > > > > Mark runs his Father,Bob Wichard,and grandfather,Ed Wichard's > Auto > > > > Parts,and garage. > > > > They were Bethel's best known businessmen years. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.