Hi Larry, no argument here, but I think you may have misread my email. I stated that Sarah Jane GRANT married James H RALSTON, and that James H RALSTON was the brother of Samuel RALSTON whose eldest daughter was Annie RALSTON. Annie RALSTON married Alexander Franklin "Frank" JAMES (brother to Jesse Woodson JAMES). As for the info I have read and been in correspondence about by JAMES researchers, it was the father of Jesse and Frank JAMES, Robert Sallee JAMES who was born in Logan Co. KY. According to documented info found on the James Family of America Association (www.ericjames.net/meet_phil_stewart.html) , by renown JAMES family historian, and former historian of the James Farm, Clay Co., Mo, Phil Stewart (jjhist@grm.net or jjhist@netins.net ), Robert and wife Zerilda COLE JAMES came to Clay Co. MO in 1842 from KY; it was in Clay Co. MO that all four of the JAMES children were born. According to this info, Robert died in the goldfields of El Dorado Co. CA where he had gone to preach. It also states that the wife of Jesse JAMES was Zeralda Amanda MIMMS. I don't see any Sarah HITE listed at all. Info from JAMES researcher Bob Juch at http://members.xcomcom/cyber_wiz/gedpage/fam07429.htm, Frank and Annie (RALSTON) JAMES had one son, Robert Franklin JAMES, who was born 1878 in Nashville, Davidson CO., TN, but he died on the James Farm, Clay Co. MO in 1959. The Phil Stewart site contains much, much info on all aspects of the JAMES' families in KY, MO, and elsewhere. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Larry Mullen [SMTP:hite1@bright.net] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 8:48 AM To: Robin's Nest Subject: Re: Grant Family relations Robin, not to argue, but I have researched some of the James, and Frank & Jessie were raised up in Adairsville,Logan Co, Ky. After Jessies death, Frank ran a produce stand in Adairsville. Someone ask him what he done when he became bored and Frank told him, "I just go rob a bank.". Jessie married a Sarah Hite. Found this information in the library at Russellville Logan Co. Ky. Russellville is the county seat of Logan co. I also got some first hand information from some of James realitives. Did Frank and Jessie marrie tow women by the same first name, or is the Sarah you mentioned, James's wife, instead of Franks ?? I saw deffinate proof of Jessie marring Sarah Hite. My mother's maiden name was HIte. Thats why I show so much interest in your letter. Thank you & may GOD BLESS you & yours. Regards, Larry Mullen LARRY'S WEB PAGE http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/larry1/ -----Original Message----- From: Robin's Nest <aerobbins@earthlink.net> To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: RE: Grant Family relations >Well now, I am sure glad I decided to sign up recently with the Clermont >List as not only am I working on the long-standing issue of finding the >right DAY family of my [sons' paternal side] Sarah Ann Melvina DAY born >Clermont Co., married Clermont Co. (will post separately about her), and >now the recently discovered Levi and Rosannah (CASTLE) BARTHOLOMEW line in >Clermont, but now I see folks looking for GRANT (presidential) kin. > >I have another long standing brick wall: on my [adoptive] mother's line, >one of her great grandmothers was Sarah Jane GRANT, born 1820/IN or KY; >Sarah Jane married James Harvey RALSTON (b 1810/Barren Co. KY; brother to >Samuel RALSTON who was the father in law of Frank JAMES, of the JAMES Gang; >sons of Matthew and Mary GALLOWAY RALSTON) in 1834/Morgan Co. IN. > >Apparently James and Sarah went back immediately to Barren Co. KY where >they had children and remained until ca 1845 when James and his wife were >"excommunicated" from the Peter's Creek Baptist Church over some matter I >have not yet got to the bottom of; they went to Howard Co. IN by 1850, and >to Hamilton Co. IN by 1856. From there they went to MO and AR. > >Family lore insists that Sarah Jane GRANT was kin [somehow] to the same >GRANT line that gave birth to Pres. US GRANT. > >I have searched all the GRANTS in Morgan Co. IN and surrounding areas and >around Barren Co. KY, but cannot tie any one line into Sarah's. I did find >a faint possiblity for a brother of hers: > >1850 Morgan Co. IN >GRANT, David 34/NC >Delila 31/IN >Sarah 10/IN >Hiram 4/IN >Lafayette 2/IN > >This family rings a bell because Sarah and James RALSTON named two of their >children "David" and "Delilah" and of course this David could have named >one of his daughters "Sarah" after his sister. Unfortunately, I cannot >find this family of David GRANT after this census, although I have looked >in IN, MO, IL, AR. > >I know this query is not based in Clermont Co., but do any of you recognize >anything here about this GRANT family of Sarah Jane GRANT RALSTON? If >anyone knows the siblings of the father and grandfather of US GRANT, were >there any that could have been in the area of Morgan Co. IN or Barren Co. >KY during the period 1820-50s who might be possible father to Sarah Jane >GRANT, born 1820/IN or KY (probably IN)? > >Thanks for all your help on all these things! What a nice group of folks. > >Robin >So CAL > >---------- >From: Betty Jo Stockton [SMTP:bjstock@iag.net] >Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:12 PM >To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Grant Family relations > >I have a nebulous connection to the Grant family... >Mary (Polly) Levi [1808-1849], youngest daughter of Judah & Mary (McGraw) >Levi of Mason Co, KY, married Roswell M. Grant. Roswell was the brother of > Jesse Root Grant, who was the father of U.S. Grant. Roswell & Jesse were >sons of Noah and Rachel (Miller) Grant. So Mary was married to Ulysses S. >Grant's uncle and her children would have be his first cousins. >My ancestor Elias Levi was the older brother of Mary (Polly) Levi. >This Grant information came from: Grant,Arthur Hastings. THE GRANT FAMILY. > Press of A. V. Haight, Poughkeepsie, NY. 1898 which I got through >interlibrary loan at my local library. >Betty Jo > >> _________ > >> Subject: Relatives of President Grant >> Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 20:09:15 -0700 >> From: Ruth Olson <rko51@uswest.net> >> To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com >> >> Greetings: >> >> Does anyone have information about the families of >> Ulysses Grant's aunts and uncles? Family stories say >> that my friend's gg grandmother was a first cousin of >> Ulysses and that she lived in the same town as he >> did. I don't know which family she belonged to, GRANT >> or SIMPSON or one of the in-laws' families. >> >> One possible name is NANCY GRANT. And she (whoever >> she was) married a man named JESSIE LUARK. The Luarks >> were in Nebraska by 1891 at least. They were later in >> Yakima, Washington. >> >> I've looked at several online genealogies for the Grant >> family, but they don't seem to have complete >> information about anyone but Ulysses and his direct >> line. Has anyone worked on the rest of the family? >> >> Any help will be appreciated. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Ruth Olson >> Council Bluffs, IA/Bellevue, WA >> >> ______________________________ >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >