Jacob Jones lived perhaps 6 miles south of a Thomas West,who licved sw Bethel at Ohio Rt 222 and Poplar Creek. Jacob Ulrey,who lived 4-5 miles west of Bethel at Ohio Rt 222 s and Ohio Rt 125,had West step-children [?] Again,ma ybe 7 miles from Jacob Jones. All might have roots in Chester Co,Pa but lived elsewhere before Ohio. All above in-adjoining Tate township,CLERMONT.

In the book "Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau-Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750 there is an Elizabeth Fishbach married to Melchior Brumback. She was born 1696 and is the daughter of Philip Fishback from Trupbach and his wife Elizabeth Heimbach. Could this be the person you are searching for? There was also her sister Mary Elizabeth Fishbach born 1687 and in this same book it suggests Melchior's wife could have ben either one of them. Don't you love siblings being name the same. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Wilson" <genealogy@cheqnet.net> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [OHCLER] Patriot - Philip Fishback > List, > Sorry for the late reply to this message from September. I have a Mary > Elizabeth FISHBACH who married Melchior BRUMBACH. Estimated date of birth > for Mary Elizabeth would be 1700. Melchior was probably born in Germany. > This family eventually married into the Neuenschwanger family. > If anyone can connect Mary Elizabeth to some parents, I would be > grateful. > > > Thanks, > > Carol Wilson > Mason, WI > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <BJansen201@aol.com> > To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:56 PM > Subject: Re: [OHCLER] Clermont Patriot - Philip Fishback > > >> In a message dated 9/1/2005 7:49:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time, >> johntippet@cox.net writes: >> >>> He came to this country in the early part of >>> the century and settled in Pierce township, where his children were >>> born. >>> They were George Fishback, the well known farmer near Olive Branch >> >> Does anyone have further information on the George Fishback family? >> George >> married Nancy Johnson, a sister to my ggg grandfather, and from the 1850 >> census >> I see that they had two sons, Phillip and Lafayette. I have no further >> information but would appreciate same. >> >> Barbara Jansen >> Colorado >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I may have posed this question previously, but can't find it in my "sent" mail. If I have, I apologize to those who have already seen it. Maybe there is new information since then... Re: the WEST family in Brown and Clermont counties. Has a connection been found to a Thomas West b 19 Dec 1785 (possibly in PA) and d 5 Apr 1878 in Brown Co, OH. who married Barbara GRAY about 1806-1810. I have found 2 sons for them: John West (b unknown) and Levi West (b ca 1817 d 121 May 1835). Thomas' father's name is unknown, but his mother was Ellen Jones, a daughter of Jacob Jones who d 1815 in Clermont Co. I am at a dead end concerning this WEST family, so any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Carol Wilson Mason, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: <ALZS@aol.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [OHCLER] CARTER, WEST, EDWARDS > Betty- > I have Methodist Circuit Rider, Rev. Samuel West (born about 1779) in > (usually Union Twp., sometimes Miami Twp.) Clermont from 1809 until death > 1879. > By all accounts, he was at least 99 years old, some have him as old as > 108, > but I am sure this is due to a mix-up with another with the same name. > After > 15 years, he is still my biggest brick wall. Different census records > have him > born in PA and VA. Combining this with familiar names in the area, I > figure > probably the Redstone Old Fort area, but do not know for sure. The > information people have posted on the web is INCORRECT. He is NOT the son > of William > West and Hannah Shaw of Chester Co., PA., who was born in 1771. (That > William > West stayed, married, lived a full life and died in the same county) > It seems like everything would fit perfectly with the West family who > came from VA (Descendants of Thomas West) and were in present-day Adams > County, > Brown County and Bethel area of Clermont County. BUT, there is NO > indication > of his existance in the volumes by Donal West. > I mention him in connection with your post, Betty, because among tiny > clues I have: His first grandson's name....Thomas Owens Edwards West. > Sam's > own son was Samuel Roberts Strong West (mother's maiden name was Strong, > but > cannot find a Robert as a given name or a family name of Roberts). His > daughter > was Rebecca Julia Evans West, and although her mother was Rebecca, I do > not > know from where the Julia Evans came. > Any tips appreciated! > Amy Schneider > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

List, Sorry for the late reply to this message from September. I have a Mary Elizabeth FISHBACH who married Melchior BRUMBACH. Estimated date of birth for Mary Elizabeth would be 1700. Melchior was probably born in Germany. This family eventually married into the Neuenschwanger family. If anyone can connect Mary Elizabeth to some parents, I would be grateful. Thanks, Carol Wilson Mason, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: <BJansen201@aol.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [OHCLER] Clermont Patriot - Philip Fishback > In a message dated 9/1/2005 7:49:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > johntippet@cox.net writes: > >> He came to this country in the early part of >> the century and settled in Pierce township, where his children were born. >> They were George Fishback, the well known farmer near Olive Branch > > Does anyone have further information on the George Fishback family? George > married Nancy Johnson, a sister to my ggg grandfather, and from the 1850 > census > I see that they had two sons, Phillip and Lafayette. I have no further > information but would appreciate same. > > Barbara Jansen > Colorado > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Joseph Reynolds: (John) born Norwich March 1660, or shortly before his father's removal to Norwich, died there Feb. 1, 1728/9. He married Jan. 10, 1688 Miss Sarah Edgerton, born Norwich Apr. 1667, d. there Aug. 14, 1714, daughter of Richard and Mary (Sylvester) Edgerton. Sarah's brother John married Mary Reynolds, Joseph's sister. [Norwich VR] Joseph and Sarah were of the Congregation of Rev. James Fitch [Caulkins p. 173]. In 1714, Joseph Reynolds was licensed by the Selectman to keep a tavern in Norwich. In 1717/18, his wife having died in 1714, he deeds to his son, John, his house and home-lot, "excepting reserving" to himself "ye West Room, ye lodging Room, with ye porch Chamber," etc. "during my natural life," and then makes the provision "if I do marry again and it shall please God to remove me by death, and leave my wife surviving that she shall have ye free use and benifet and ye west rooms and ye Lodging Room, etc., during ye time of her living in sd house a widow." In 1711/12 he was allowed liberty "to sett the shop, he hath already sett up the frame of, to sett the one halfe of sd shop in the street, and so to continue during the towne's pleasure." This may have been the old house which formerly stood facing the south, close to the street. Children of Joseph and Sarah, all of whom were born and reared in Norwich [Norwich VR]: *41 John Reynolds b. Feb. 21, 1691, d. Norwich Nov. 16, 1742; m. Dec. 6, 1720 Miss Lydia Lord 42 Mary Reynolds b. Mar. 10, 1693/94, d. Norwich Oct. 18, 1781; m. before 1717 Robert Warren, b. 1694, d. 1786 *43 Joseph Reynolds b. Jan. 26, 1695/96, d. Norwich Sep. 1, 1756; m. Nov. 10, 1717 Hannah Bingham *44 Stephen Reynolds b. Sep. 27, 1698, d. Norwich Nov. 29, 1731; m. Mar. 1, 1724/25 Mary Sanford 45 Daniel Reynolds b. July 6, 1701, d. Norwich Nov. 23, 1701 46 Lydia Reynolds b. Feb. 14, 1702/03; nothing further known 47 Daniel Reynolds b. Dec. 4, 1705, d. Norwich Apr. 1, 1706/07 *48 Sarah Reynolds b. June 7, 1707; m. May 11, 1725 Jonathan Caulkins 5 Mary Reynolds: (John) born Norwich Apr. 1664, died Norwich Jan. 31, 1727/28. She married 1st Norwich Mar. 20, 1689/90 John Edgerton of Norwich, born Norwich June 12, 1662, d. Norwich May 1692, son of Richard and Mary (Sylvester) Edgerton. She married 2nd Norwich Dec. 30, 1697 Samuel Lathrop, as his second wife. Child: Edgerton: 51 John b. Norwich Feb. 26, 1690/91, d. Norwich Feb. 15, 1768; m. 1st Norwich Dec. 27, 1714 Ruth Adgate, dau. of Deacon Thomas and Ruth (Brewster) Adgate, b. Norwich Mar. 27, 1692/93, d. there Feb. 23, 1728/29. He married 2nd Mrs. Phebe (Harris) [Crank] Prentis, b. Norwich Jan. 24, 1700, d. Norwich July 29, 1763, dau. of Joseph and Mary Harris. Her first husband was John Crank, and her second was Stephen Prentis. 6 Elizabeth

1819 Brown CO,Ohio property owners [new county] Daniel Joseph Jr,Joseph Sr,Henry,Stephen,Wm Reynolds owned land that had been in Adams or Clermont Co,Ohio until 1818 Perhaps R.I..>>>Albany NY area in Rev War era >>>>Mason Co,n Ky 1790's 1800 to US RT 62 IN Eagle twnsp,Adams Co,Ohio that became Jackson twnsp, Brown Co,Oh Russell Shaw m a Reynolds gal,and founded Russellville,Jefferson twensp,Brown Co at US RT 62 AND Ohio rt 125. DAR genealogist [dead] Anna Shaw m Oscar Dumford,Sr was of them. She was in the Sunshine Woman's Club with my wife's gdau. Her son,Oscar Jr and wife Vivian,was a lawyer here in Bethel. Anna's genealogy,in part,may have been lost,or hard to get to. Beech Forest DAR OR Brown Co's DAR .

Had the townships names wrong for Joseph and Stephen Reynolds. US RT 62 several miles north of Russellville was modern Jackson twnsp,Brown Co,Ohio formed from what was,until 1818,Eagle twnsp,Adams Co,Ohio. 1823 [?] was formation of Jackson twnsp,and Carlisle-Ash Ridge-Lake Wanoka the general area.

Smyyna was about present Clermont's 1st Presbyterian church. Adams Co,and current Brown Co had several earlier Presbyterian churches. One was Red Oak Presbyteri an,near the fork of US RTS 62 and 68,at hamlet of Red Oak,5 miles north of Ripley,now Brown Co. Both were in se Clermont until 1818. NE of Red Oak,on US RT 62,north of Russellville,Ohio was REYNOLDS family,from NY state,whose pre 1`818 cabin was in Boyd twnsp,now Adams Co,,but now n Jefferson township, Brown Co,Ohio. Rev James Gillihan was the Presbyteriian minister of Red Oak,in 1817,when an earlier Duncan Evans m Matilda Evans Apr 1817. John Lindsey,JP lived,1817 on the line that divided old Clermont and Adams Co,and reported current Brown Co maRRIAGES TO BOTH CLERMONT AND ADAMS. Experiance R eynolds m James Wardlow,1817 AND Lois Reynolds to Ayer Pool,1817, were two he reported to Clermont Co. Emily Reynolds 19,to Kilby Clarke,by Christian church's John Powell, june 23,1849 likely was a Felicity marriage. Thunderstorm. Must unplug and un jack

Thanks a million to the Fagley Team - It was so gratifying to finally find that there is some information on my family - Now can you help me at all on Bethuel Reynolds, who was Esther Evans' father. He is my gggrandfather died 1867 and is buried in Smyrna Cemetery, Felicity - Is said to have een a township supervisor and active in his community. Would there be an obit - , death notice, or even better - en estate closing of any kind that might give me his parentage?? I know Herm. Some of us are just never satisfied and you are our last resort - God bless you Harriet Reynolds Rariden

Duncan Evans,22 m Easter REYNOLDS, Nov 2,1865 by H.V.Warren,M.G. 1870 ATLAS OF Clermont,Franklin twnsp "Estate of E Reynolds" 10 acres on Smyrna Rd,between the Presbyterian Smyrna Churchyard,and Felicity-Cedron Rd. 1891 [?]K.DF.Miller owned the 10 acres. Less than 1 mile east of Felicity, Franklin twnsp.Clermont 1837 Bethuel Reynolds was a Felicity tailor. Allison A Evans, d Aug 9,1863 13y 6m 23 d buried in Mt Pleasant Christian,a mile south of Felicity Walter Wood's Woods lived less than a mile east.

cOULD SOMEONE HELP ME????? BETHUEL REYNOLDS B: 1801 Pa. or NY Married Catherine Kephart in Brown Co. Ohio on Dec 23, 1823 Moved to Clrmont Co. area and raised 5 or 6 young'uns A mong them Esther Reynolds - later a school teacher in Clermont Co. - and married an Evans. Their son, thomas is my gggrandfather moved to Illinois and is buried in Keller Cemetery in Lovington, Moultrie Co. by his wife, Elizabeth Million. Bethuel was , according to the Clermont Co. book a "successful business man" "a tailor" owned land there -was a Republican, and a Methodist. Died there in1867 and is buried in Smyrna Cemetery in Felicity, I cannot believe that as much information as there is available on Clermont Co. that there is not some obit - estate - property changing hands records - or something - This man is my great great gramdfather and I have information on his family pretty much complete on his children all the way down to me - BUT I cannot find any information on his death - I keep hoping Herm Fagley will have time to look into this family but so far no luck ---Ihave information from Steve Ross which I think will fit right in when I can get parnts or siblings of Bethuels. Hope you can help me - I have been at this for 30 yrs. and have ran into problems before ----- but never one this stubborn. Harriet Reynolds Rariden in Pembroke Pines, BL.

Stonelick twnsp,mid Clermont,has a Benton Road west of Owensville,crossing US Rt 50. Clermont Co commisioner abt 1970 Ralph Houser's wife was a Benton. She wrote a genealogy article for the 1980 History of Clermont.Her sister m a Carlier. Her sons have an office on US Rt 68 s of Mt Orab,and rest homes in Bethel and West Union.Her Benton's were 'not" in Clermont before 1900. Benton Rd was so-named about 1950 when Clermont got road signs for county roads.

BENTON Surname of Clermont & Brown County, Ohio and or Northwest Territory: Has anybody come across the BENTON surname in this area before 1820 in their research? Thanks in advance, Patrick Kenney 3744 Cactus Wheel Ct. Las Vegas, Nevada. 89129 __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/

Dear "site", Sue, Pat, and "interested": Hello. Thanks for the messages. I never saw, found, observed, any actual Rev War Vet type stones, nor DAR type stones, nor Military Organization type stones, on or by the graves of John Short Sr (Rev War Vet), or that of John Wheeler Sr (Rev War Vet); nor have I had any information from anyone else, or their recording, that such markings ever existed. All I ever saw was the standard era gravestone. The cemetery where they are buried, The Short Cemetery ("indicated" as the Wheeler-Short Cemetery in 1950's by the DAR for recording/bookkeeping purposes) was always a private cemetery (owned by the Shorts 1813 - 1847), and was always on private land upto its distruction in 1993.It had also hung wallow for quite a few years after the fine ownership of the Cooper family had ceased, whereas a "sub-division" had started and failed.Its only protection was that, if any, afforded by the government of the township and county. It was completly erased from the earths service, becoming a manicured rear/side yard of a new home. Only the "remains, if any, of any of the approx twenty persons buried below, would note their final resting place; - - - - - and then only if so noted for history; - - - - - and then only untill history forgets. Above ground, no cemetery exists. A few of the larger stones, whole, or broken, were piled under one of the old large trees. Even the persons who! wrecked this graveyard, and said they sure didn't know it was a graveyard, must have had a little sense, as they scratched their brows and wondered what all of these gravestones and marker stones were doing in their way???? I'm afraid that getting "regular" DAR markings, or "regular" government markings, would be an almost impossible task, especially for marking graves in a Cemetery which no longer exists. I would like to see it done! Yes! Take care. Regards, Dick

Dear Pat, Bob, Marie, Barb, "site", and ?: Hello. Sorry about your "call down". I told you all that I was going downhill, which right now has 2 inches, plus 7 . 7 inches, plus 4 inches, of good ole' Hoosier fast and furious snow on it; temperature at .06. When John Short Sr ( 1759/61 - 1836) died he ordered that his son William stay on home place, take care of his mother, Mary, and sister Mary; with the widow Mary to have all personal estate. William was to have use of the homeplace as long as he took care of mother Mary and sister Mary. Then when mother Mary and sister Mary both died, the real property would be devided equally among all of John Short Sr heirs. The mother, Mary, died 1839, and for several years William was settleing the personal items. William, and his family, stayed on the homeplace untill 1846, per "okay" of heirs. He died in 1846 (buried Short Family Cemetery/"Wheeler-Short"), and all of the Ohio heirs and the Indiana heirs sold the homeplace to Benjamin Frazee. William Shorts widow, Charlotte (Hall) Short also sold her "claim" to same,,but keeping about 3 1/4 acres.. Take care. Regards, Dick

Dear Sue, site, etc: Hello. Thanks for the messages. Seems "we" were just over this area/subjects/etc short time ago? Maybe not? As I get older, and dumber, I sure get slower. A lot of the answers to those 4 pages of questions are in my piles of research, and will take time to produce. Of course, some answers I do not have. I can start with some easy ones. The Short Family Cemetery was "renamed" or "identified" in the 1950's, by the DAR, because there were two (and only two) Rev War Veterans buried there, John Short Sr, and John Wheeler Sr. The cemetery was located on Short land, and remained Short land untill 1847; when John Short Sr's son William Short died in 1846, his widow kept about 3 acres (out of the remaining 100 acres), and all of the Indiana and Ohio heirs sold their shares. The DAR "tagged" the cemetery the "Wheeler/Short Cemetery" for their identification as they attempted to list all of the Rev War Vets of the whole area. I was lucky enough to have searched for the cemetery about 4 1/2 times, visit and repair at it about 6, 7, times, and unlucky enough to visit it 3 times after its distruction by a bunch of idiots. Mary Tewell, wife of Sanford Tewell, WAS NOT the daughter of John Short Sr and wife Mary (unknown/unrecorded/undocumented maiden name). They had a daughter named Mary, but she never married. She was classified as an "idiot", which in that era meant she could have been "mentally off", or worse, - - - - - - or merely "deaf and dumb", or such. Samuel Short, son of John Short Sr and Mary ( ? ), married 1806 Mason Co Ky, to Frances Tewell. I "indicate" Sanford Tewell as "probable" brother to Frances. I would "guess" Barton Tewell, or John Tewell, both somewhat older than Sanford, as one being a parent, or both older brothers? I never researched them. Sanford Tewells wife, Mary ( ? ), died 1842, Clermont Co Ohio, buried Short Family Cemetery. Sanford went on to Jefferson Co Ind, died there, buried there. I found no "association" or "connection" between the Shorts, and the Tewells and Wheelers, before the late 1790's, in Mason Co Va/Ky (and still is Mason Co Ky.) Mason Co contained some 15 present counties at that time, but the Shorts settled up and back from the Ohio River, at Washington, rather than at Limestone (present Mayfield); present Mason Co. There were several intermarriages between Shorts, Tewells, Wheelers, "Bhymers". Enough for now. Take care. Regards, Dick

Bob Armstrong read me the names last night from a clipping. 1941- my father-in-law,Eldon Kirkpatrick. From Bethel,Eddie and John Shebesta, Jim Verril, a Storer,Virgil Malott [star],a Hance,a Miranda, 2 Voughts, Jim Hamilton, more that I forget. My Dad taught most at Burg High.

My wife grew up by Williamsburg's N+W station,where her grandfather, Edgar Kiirkpatrick,ran a coal yard and ice house,that became Myers and Duckworth's

Maybe Carl.Ely@fuse.net of Williamsburg,,and born at the Bantam,Ohio store.

Does anybody have any information or connection to the Norfolk and Western Railroad in the Batavia area? Particularly interested in the depot in Batavia. If so, please contact me at alzs@aol.com. Thanks, Amy