My family of Ben and Sarahbelle Hockman were supposed to have live in Cloverlick in the mid 1800's. Anybody happen to know where? They had several children, my gr. grandfather being Ben Hockman who was in the civil war from Brown County and is buried at Arnheim. His wife was a Mary Josephine Hanselman. Thanks for any help. --- OHCLERMO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > OHCLERMO-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 252 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Read this, pray and VOTE on No > [Weebonilass@aol.com] > #2 PRATHER, LANHAM, MCKIBBEN, COLBERT > [KevinOMReb@aol.com] > #3 PS to Craig Family > [NJTC@aol.com] > #4 Headwaters of Clover [lick] creek. [HERMON B > FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.c] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from OHCLERMO-D, send a message to > > OHCLERMO-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, > too. > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:15:06 EST > From: Weebonilass@aol.com > To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Read this, pray and VOTE on Nov. 7th > > I'm not sure where the list manager is, but I don't > think this is appropriate > to this list. > > > Ginger > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:44:01 EST > From: KevinOMReb@aol.com > To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: PRATHER, LANHAM, MCKIBBEN, COLBERT > > Looking for PRATHER, MCKIBBEN, COLBERT of the > Felicity/ Bethel area. Elijah > LANHAM m. Mary PRATHER 1835. Their son William m. > Mary Eliz. COLBERT in 1858 > Felicity. I can't find anything on COLBERT. She is > mygggreatgrandmother. > Thanks, Kevin Marsh > 800-755-3326 > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:56:21 EST > From: NJTC@aol.com > To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: PS to Craig Family > > Sorry ALL, > > I put in my query that Robert Craig was born in 1926 > or 28 instead or 1826 or > 28. > > Mary Beth Adams > New Jersey > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 > Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:08:40 -0500 > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Headwaters of Clover [lick] creek. > > This am,I write of a neighborhood ,on the > rolling lands created by > Clover[lick] > creek and it's branches that was early settled-1800 > era- because of the > better > drainage not found in the adjoining white oak > swamps. An area roughly 5 > miles > by 5 miles lying east of Rt 133, between Bethel and > Williamsburg. Over > time,this little > area got cut up into 4 townships from the original > Williamsburg > Twnsp,Clermont. > 1805, part became the n e corner of Tate > twnsp,Clermont, and from it was > cut > Clark twnsp, in Brown Co from 1818, and Pike > Twnsp,Brown Co . So,I'm > always > looking at 2 counties histories and 2 atlases. And > there were only > hamlets- Locust > Ridge,Hennings Mills [coontown] ,Clover, New > Harmony, Yankeetown, and > just east, > Neal's Corner.A general store, and maybe a > blacksmith shop. I'm still > hunting the Baptist > church of the area,assuming it was not at > ,1807,Clover Methodist. This is > a neighborhood > of family cemetaries,and few church yards. I'm > guessing exactly at Locust > Ridge Nursing > home was a Dunkard church,that became a tiny > Chrishian church,burying in > the woods > to the rear. Clover,and then New Harmony Methodist > churchyards, and maybe > another near > Neal's Corner. > Regardless,there are a bunch of us on-line > with ancestors in that > area,and we are > lucky 4 genealogists,at least,lived there. Margaret > Burgage,on the Brown > Co,Gen Soc, > library,and 3 from the 1950's Beech Forrest DAR. Mrs > James Musgrove,and > dau,Hilda > Johnson Blakney, and Anna Dumford. Likely more. > Somebody is at the door > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE > software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/

Well, I got on my high horse before I read Robin Poppy's apology! My bad. I'm very sorry. Julie Raffety Santa Barbara, CA

While I believe everyone should practice their civic duty on November 7, and vote if they're eligible, in fact I am working for our County Elections at the polls, I am slightly put off by this post. Robin Poppy, did you forget this is a genealogy mailing list? Any election stories regarding our Clermont County ancestors would have been most welcome. There are plenty and plenty of spots to post this message, I don't think the Clermont County genealogy board is one of them Sincerely, Julie Raffety Santa Barbara, CA Researching: Wayne, Bell

This am,I write of a neighborhood ,on the rolling lands created by Clover[lick] creek and it's branches that was early settled-1800 era- because of the better drainage not found in the adjoining white oak swamps. An area roughly 5 miles by 5 miles lying east of Rt 133, between Bethel and Williamsburg. Over time,this little area got cut up into 4 townships from the original Williamsburg Twnsp,Clermont. 1805, part became the n e corner of Tate twnsp,Clermont, and from it was cut Clark twnsp, in Brown Co from 1818, and Pike Twnsp,Brown Co . So,I'm always looking at 2 counties histories and 2 atlases. And there were only hamlets- Locust Ridge,Hennings Mills [coontown] ,Clover, New Harmony, Yankeetown, and just east, Neal's Corner.A general store, and maybe a blacksmith shop. I'm still hunting the Baptist church of the area,assuming it was not at ,1807,Clover Methodist. This is a neighborhood of family cemetaries,and few church yards. I'm guessing exactly at Locust Ridge Nursing home was a Dunkard church,that became a tiny Chrishian church,burying in the woods to the rear. Clover,and then New Harmony Methodist churchyards, and maybe another near Neal's Corner. Regardless,there are a bunch of us on-line with ancestors in that area,and we are lucky 4 genealogists,at least,lived there. Margaret Burgage,on the Brown Co,Gen Soc, library,and 3 from the 1950's Beech Forrest DAR. Mrs James Musgrove,and dau,Hilda Johnson Blakney, and Anna Dumford. Likely more. Somebody is at the door ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Sorry ALL, I put in my query that Robert Craig was born in 1926 or 28 instead or 1826 or 28. Mary Beth Adams New Jersey

Looking for PRATHER, MCKIBBEN, COLBERT of the Felicity/ Bethel area. Elijah LANHAM m. Mary PRATHER 1835. Their son William m. Mary Eliz. COLBERT in 1858 Felicity. I can't find anything on COLBERT. She is mygggreatgrandmother. Thanks, Kevin Marsh 800-755-3326

Please forgive my recent post about praying and voting....my finger slipped and I sent it out to this list by mistake. Sorry... Robin Poppy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/

Hello! The Perry Ogden running for commissioner is a retired teacher/coach from Western Brown and the owner of Ogden Softball Field near Hamersville. His wife's name is Candi. But Dale Reynolds is running for re-election as Brown County Commissioner and would appreciate your vote! Does anyone have any information on a Benjamen Klinker, civil war veteran, b. Germany d. Ripley, Oh? He is my gr gr grandfather, and I cannot find his parents names anywhere! Thanks Lisa weezer55@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/

I'm not sure where the list manager is, but I don't think this is appropriate to this list. Ginger

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Hello Listers, I am looking for information on the family of John and Isabel Craig. Their son, Robert was born on Nov. 7, 1926 or 28 in Clermont County, Ohio. I am hoping John and Isabel (maiden name was suppose to be Wishard) were married in Clermont and perhaps there is some birth information on the family members. They moved to Indiana sometime between their last child was born and the 1850 census. In the census they were listed as follows: John Craig, 52, Farmer, born in PA Isabel, 51, born in VA Matilda, 31, born in OH William, 18, born in OH Isabel E., 15, born in OH John W., 13, born in OH Margaret, 10, born in OH Warren, 5, born in OH Robert was out on his own by 1850. I would appreciate any help. Mary Beth Adams New Jersey

Found my gr grandfather in the 1910 Census Miracode Index, just wondering what this is. Also where do I write to get death certificates in Clermont County and what is the cost? Thanks for your help Beth

Earlier I had sent the following question....just notice an Emily F.Stall same death date...in Aileen Witts death index...any idea's who she might be? Thanks again, Eileen In a Book belonging to Wash Carter, Williamsburg, Oh...I found an obit, it is a poem in Memory of; Emily Sthal died November 10, 1884 anyone know who she was? Eileen

Any one know what church the KIRGAN / or LEWIS families attended? Eileen

As i said i did not put this on for ANYONE TO RESEARCH for me, it was just what i said thinking out loud, giving some one else researching some hints that might work. Sometimes i wish people would tell me more of what they think of other's research and how it might help. Sometimes you find things that no one else has a chance to see. If that make sense to no one sorry i bothered you, June HERMON B FAGLEY wrote: > > The Brush Valley was a few years only for several Germanic to sw Brown, > se Clermont; nw Clermont-east Hamilton Co families. And I read the > Dunkard > faith, but Rev Waldsmidt,of the Reading,Berks,to Heidleburg,Lancaster Co > was, > I think Evang Reformed. You are going back to things posted on Prodigy > genealogy, > 1992-93,and if I have them,I'm not going to dig,when the Internet has > such great > things. The Waldschmidt Jr,who married Stephen Bolender,Srs sister, d > 1814,but his house > yet stands on RT 126 N Milford,Oh,and his mills nearby lead to another > German settlement > that spread near Goshen,with Leaver's,etc. > Assuming they were German Baptist as I've read,they,like normal Baptists > switched,enmass to > the Christian Church ,or Campbellite Christian,or Church of Christ s > Felicity at RT 133 and RT 222, > OR ON SHINKLE'S RIDGE,IN S BROWN. > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:02:41 -0700 "B. June Babcock" > <gelvin@tabletoptelephone.com> writes: > > This is what is called thinking out loud. Someone with and OLD atlas > > might look these up. > > > > In transcribing some information from Leon BOLENDER noticed an > > interesting piece of information. > > > > Stephen and Margaret SHENKLE-BOLENDER were living in Brush Valley, > > Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania before coming to Clermont and Brown > > County, Ohio. Stephen and 2nd wife bought land in Clermont Co., in > > 1802. > > They lived in or near, Lewis twp. > > > > Jacob METZGER and wife Mary BUCH/DREISBACH lived in Buffalo Valley, > > Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania. Jacob moved to Ross Co., Ohio and > > is > > buried there, but his son Conrad and wife Margaret BAUM bought land > > in > > Clermont Co., in 1806 and ended up near or in Lewis township. > > Conrad's > > Daughter Delilah married Thomas TOWNSLEY had a daughter Rebecca who > > married Jacob BOLANDER. > > > > They were of the Dunkard Faith. > > > > Question #1. The families knew each other in Nouthumberland Co., > > Pennsylvania????? > > Question #2. Good idea to look for the TOWNSLEYs in Northumberland > > Co., > > Pennsylvania, also. > > Question #3. Were the TOWNSLEY's of the Dunkard Faith also??? > > > > Exact detail is not the point of these "thoughts" (such as exact > > dates, > > etc.) June > > > > > > ============================== > > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

This is what is called thinking out loud. Someone with and OLD atlas might look these up. In transcribing some information from Leon BOLENDER noticed an interesting piece of information. Stephen and Margaret SHENKLE-BOLENDER were living in Brush Valley, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania before coming to Clermont and Brown County, Ohio. Stephen and 2nd wife bought land in Clermont Co., in 1802. They lived in or near, Lewis twp. Jacob METZGER and wife Mary BUCH/DREISBACH lived in Buffalo Valley, Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania. Jacob moved to Ross Co., Ohio and is buried there, but his son Conrad and wife Margaret BAUM bought land in Clermont Co., in 1806 and ended up near or in Lewis township. Conrad's Daughter Delilah married Thomas TOWNSLEY had a daughter Rebecca who married Jacob BOLANDER. They were of the Dunkard Faith. Question #1. The families knew each other in Nouthumberland Co., Pennsylvania????? Question #2. Good idea to look for the TOWNSLEYs in Northumberland Co., Pennsylvania, also. Question #3. Were the TOWNSLEY's of the Dunkard Faith also??? Exact detail is not the point of these "thoughts" (such as exact dates, etc.) June

Hello Listers and Susan Ephraim Simpkins, b 10 Mar 1756 in Cumberland Co., NJ, married Hannah Stathem, daughter of Aaron Stathem and Priscilla Pooler, 4 May 1784. I've identified three children from this union, Elizabeth, m Thomas McFarland; Mary, m Samuel Perin; and Hannah, m Jesse Fletcher. Believe there may be additional children from this marriage. Ephraim died 22 Jan 1835 in Clermont Co. Ephraim had 4 children with Mary Chandler. Archibald, John, David, and Phebe. Am looking for Ephraim's ancestors as well as descendants from both of his families. Lois

I have a James Harvey WARD, born 27 Oct 1811, married Jan 1843, Mary Ann NASH, born 25 Jan 1825, daughter of Henry NASH, b 1800 & Sarah HARRIS, born 1805. Children of James Harvey WARD & Mary Ann NASH are: 1. Albert, born 1844 2. Laura, born 1846 3. James Harvey Ward, Jr., born 1854 Anyone have anymore on the WARD/NASH connection? Lynda Speidel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerilyn" <jaibird@infocom.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 12:46 PM Subject: Re: WARD,BOLANDER,APPLE,FISHER > Hi Tom & Carolyn, > I own the clermont co list and I also have WARDs in my family tree. Was hoping > that mine would fit into yours. Here is what I have so far: > > Ancestors of Elijah WARD > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. Elijah WARD. He married (1) Susannah ???. > > Children of Elijah WARD and Susannah ??? are: > i. James Harvey WARD, married Mary Ann ???. > ii. Elon WARD, born in Pleasant Hill, CC, Ohio. > iii. Sanford WARD, born in Clermont Co., OH; married Elizabeth ???. > > Ancestors of James Harvey WARD > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. James Harvey WARD. He was the son of 2. Elijah WARD and 3. Susannah ???. > He married (1) Mary Ann ???. > > Children of James WARD and Mary ??? are: > i. William A. WARD, born February 28, 1868 in New Richmond, Ohio; died January > 05, 1916 in New Richmond, OH; married Mollie F. SILLETT. > ii. Etta WARD. > iii. Albert WARD, born 1844; died 1888; married Susan FLORO. > iv. Laura W. WARD, born 1846; died 1923; married Edward G. AYERS. > v. James H. WARD, Jr, born 1854; died 1867. > > > Molly SILLETT is my line. > > Hope we can connect. Thanks, > Jerilyn > > > Tom & Carolyn Ward wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I haven't ask in awhile. > > > > I'm trying to learn the names of the children of James and Elizabeth > > WARD who are buried up next to the church in the Mt. Moriah Methodist > > Cemetery in Clermont Co. > > > > Tombstone gives James date of death 12 Jun 1843 in the 79th year of his life. > > Elizabeth's says she died 14 Mar 1842 in the 79th year of her life. > > > > An affidavit James gave mentions that he is a Methodist Minister and > > he mentions living in Berkeley Co VA now WV as a child in his > > father's household during the Revolutionary War. > > > > The 1880 History of Clermont Co OH by EVERTS on page 444 mentions > > that James WARD settled in Clermont about 1799 and remained until > > death. Also that most of his family removed from the area but that a > > daughter married Elias T. FISHER one of the first postmasters. > > > > Is Michael Lindsay WARD b 1810 probably Clermont Co one of the sons > > of James and Elizabeth WARD?? Michael married Elizabeth BOLANDER in > > Clermont Co. She is the daughter of Peter BOLANDER and Mary APPLE. He > > moved to Hancock Co IN when he purchased land there in 1835, later > > moving to Marion Co IN and then to Clinton Co IL. where he died, he > > died 3 Dec 1890 age 79. > > > > Emanuel WARD probably born between 1804 and 1816 married > > Jemima/Jessamine SMITH b OH in 1831 Fayette Co IN. > > > > Emanuel WARD, Ephraim WARD b 1816 TN my g g gf, and Michael Lindsay > > WARD all purchased land in Hancock Co IN in 1835 within a few months > > of each other. > > > > Any assistance in determining the children of James and Elizabeth > > WARD would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Best wishes, and happy to share > > > > Tom & Carolyn WARD > > P.O. Box 77 > > Columbus, KS 66725 > > > > (316)429-3475 > > > > tcward@columbus-ks.com > > > > ============================== > > Visit ROOTS-L, the Internet's oldest and largest genealogical > > mailing list: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/ > > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp >

From: Hendcoa@aol.com To: Hermfagley@juno.com Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:04:40 EDT Subject: HORN - VOL. III M[These are names from an atlas of original land tract owners in very sw Pa. Horn Papers Atlas [vol 3] is a good source. Horn Papers VOL 1 + 2 ARE FICTION hiding as fact. The three counties in Horn:Paprs Vol 3 Fayette Co. maps 2 - 28 Greene Co. maps 30 - 47 Washington Co. maps 49 - 81 In Dunkard Twp., Greene Co.: John Edwards Richard Hall Springer Morris In Greene Twp., Greene Co.: Isaac Garrard The names you requested broke down like this: EDWARDS Evan - 41 John - 33 Timothy - 53 PRICKETT James 75 James - 74 (in E. Pike and W. Pike Twp., Wash. Co. FLETCHER Thomas 40 - Morgan Twp., Greene Co. SPRINGER Daniel - 26 Dennis - 6, 24, 27 John - 8, 27 Jonathan D. 24 (2) Joseph - 8 Josias - 24 Levi 6, 13, 24, 25, 27 Michael - 26 Col. Zadock - 8 GARRARD Isaac 36 Greene Twp., Greene Co. Jonah - 35 Gilmore Twp., Greene Co. Justice Gerrard - 36 Greene Twp., Greene Co. HALL Richard 10 (Henry Clay Twp., Fayette Co.) 33, 36 MORRIS Springer - 33 Dunkard Twp., Greene Co. others in 33, 34, 31, 35 Richard - 34 Franklin Twp., Greene Co. Thanks for your phone call. Marilyn On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:33:16 EST Smlathrum@aol.com writes: > Hermon, as far as I know we don't have any Catholic kin. I think the > Fletchers were Methodist, at least that's how my grandma Fletcher > was raised > and VERY Methodist! No cards, no drinking, smoking, dancing, etc. I > had heard > from somewhere that the Fletcher brothers were distillers, even as > far back > as when they were in PA before coming to Ohio. Of course, that > doesn't work > well with the Methodist theory...oh, well. It could have come from > the > maternal side of the family and not the Fletcher side. At least I > believe > these folks (Fletchers) were always farmers and the descendents are > many > still farmers today. > As always, thanks for the information on the Simpkins. > Susan

I don't know about the 1811 family of Simpkins/Fletcher, but in 1853 Clermont County, there was (Miss?) Vesta Simpkins and her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Simpkins. Considering all the other Clermont residents from New Jersey at that time, your information is very plausible.