I'm cleaning out my e-mail folders and can't remember if I sent this or not. If so, please disregard. Thanks for your response. I haven't responded because I've misplaced my MATTOX folder. I still haven't found it but will respond anyway. It's all very confusing. There is Elijah MATTOX, Sr. and Jr. I'm also aware of the marriage to Matilda MEDARIS but I have a legal advertisement from the Clermont Co. paper which shows a Sybil MATTOX, wife of Elijah. That is dated 1815 (I think) I can send it to you if you'd like. Then there is information about Rev. Elijah MATTOX marrying Mary LINDSEY in Campbell Co. Ky. Then death information about Nancy LINDSEY MATTOX who died in 1813, Pierce Twsp. married to Rev. Elijah MATTOX. I don't know if Mary and Nancy could be the same person. Where Matilda and Sybil fit in I don't know. I think I've looked in all the logical county sources. I just keep hoping someone has a family record that might show something definative. Are you related to this line? I'm trying to pursue the Sybil MATTOX situation. We've all got one piece of the puzzle and we're trying to make it fit. >From: JWilso7761@aol.com To: kje11@hotmail.com Subject: Medaris Date: Thu, >10 Feb 2000 20:18:11 EST > >Hi Karen, I saw your query of January. Elijah Mattox b. 1791 married >Elizabeth Medaris in Clermont County in 1813. I have this Elijah perhaps >marring again in 1858 to Matilda Medaris the widow of a Charles Medaris and >she was a Mattox before her marriage to Charles Medaris. Let me know if >this is what you want. Jerry Wilson _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

I'm still writing daily on OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com as I did on the old Ohio-Clermont on Prodigy.com 1992-95. Your snail mail query catches me tired after cardiac exercise. Mike Hitch,on-line from Bowie,Md and raised at 1700 Hitch site in s Eastern shore,might know your Hitch answers,in part. carlely@juno.com your Benj Ely. [he's from 3rd wife,not Simmons-Hitch,who was 1st. I see many,many errors in both GRAHAM AND jb simmons. ,and in D.A.R. ADMISSIONS. Adam Simmons served in a York Co,Pa militia co with Hatton's and neighbors. Hope you can see the Emails I'm senbding this to, Holly Lundberg, hollysl@mstar2.net. Gang-Simmons, Hatton's,ly's,introduce your self to an ex Prodigy genealogist. Kim and Neil Simmons are sons of my ex Dr Charles Simmons,of Bethel. Kim lives within a mile of Adam Simmons,1805. KDMS@aol.com and is a pro photographer in Cincinnati. Bro Neil is in Fla. the Ancestry.com - York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 M Search > Record Type > York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 > Search ResultsNovember 9, 2000 [FOLLOWING IS 20% OF HATTON data] Search Results Search Terms: HATTON (47) Database: York County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1749-1819 Combined Matches: 47 Next Hits Book Page: Surname: Hobson Given Name: Francis Title: Description: Decedent Residence: Manheim Township Date: 8 Sep 1777 Prove Date: 1 Apr 1779 Remarks: Hobson, Francis. Sep. 8, 1777. Executors: Joseph Hobson and William Hatton. Manheim Township. Wife: Omitted. Children: Joseph, and others whose names were not given. View full context Book Page: Surname: Hobson Given Name: Joseph Title: Description: Executor Residence: Date: 8 Sep 1777 Prove Date: 1 Apr 1779 Remarks: Hobson, Francis. Sep. 8, 1777. Executors: Joseph Hobson and William Hatton. Manheim Township. Wife: Omitted. Children: Joseph, and others whose names were not given. View full context Book Page: Surname: Hatton Given Name: William Title: Description: Executor Residence: Date: 8 Sep 1777 Prove Date: 1 Apr 1779 Remarks: Hobson, Francis. Sep. 8, 1777. Executors: Joseph Hobson and William Hatton. Manheim Township. Wife: Omitted. Children: Joseph, and others whose names were not given. View full context Book Page: Surname: Hobson Given Name: Joseph Title: Description: Son Residence: Date: 8 Sep 1777 Prove Date: 1 Apr 1779 Remarks: Hobson, Francis. Sep. 8, 1777. Executors: Joseph Hobson and William Hatton. Manheim Township. Wife: Omitted. Children: Joseph, and others whose names were not given. View full context Book Page: Surname: Given Name: Title: Description: Residence: Date: 8 Sep 1777 Prove Date: 1 Apr 1779 Remarks: Hobson, Francis. Sep. 8, 1777. Executors: Joseph Hobson and William Hatton. Manheim Township. Wife: Omitted. Children: Joseph, and others whose names were not given. View full context Book Page: Surname: Hatton Given Name: Edward Title: Description: Decedent Residence: Huntington Township Date: 5 Jul 1777 Prove Date: 18 Nov 1779 Remarks: Hatton, Edward. Jul. 5, 1777. Executors: Adam Semonds and Archibald McGrew. Huntington Township. Children: John, James, Ann wife of Roland McRandles, Robert, and Mary wife of Adam Seymonds. Grandchildren: Joseph McRandles, son of Ann, and Edward, James, Leonard, Jane and Rachel Hatton, children of Robert. View full context Book Page: Surname: Semonds Given Name: Adam Title: Description: Executor Residence: Date: 5 Jul 1777 Prove Date: 18 Nov 1779 Remarks: Hatton, Edward. Jul. 5, 1777. Executors: Adam Semonds and Archibald McGrew. Huntington Township. Children: John, James, Ann wife of Roland McRandles, Robert, and Mary wife of Adam Seymonds. Grandchildren: Joseph McRandles, son of Ann, and Edward, James, Leonard, Jane and Rachel Hatton, children of Robert. View full context Book Page: Surname: McGrew Given Name: Archibald Title: Description: Executor Residence: Date: 5 Jul 1777 Prove Date: 18 Nov 1779 Remarks: Hatton, Edward. Jul. 5, 1777. Executors: Adam Semonds and Archibald McGrew. Huntington Township. Children: John, James, Ann wife of Roland McRandles, Robert, and Mary wife of Adam Seymonds. Grandchildren: Joseph McRandles, son of Ann, and Edward, James, Leonard, Jane and Rachel Hatton, children of Robert. View full context Book Page: Surname: Hatton Given Name: John Title: Description: Son Residence: Date: 5 Jul 1777 Prove Date: 18 Nov 1779 Remarks: Hatton, Edward. Jul. 5, 1777. Executors: Adam Semonds and Archibald McGrew. Huntington Township. Children: John, James, Ann wife of Roland McRandles, Robert, and Mary wife of Adam Seymonds. Grandchildren: Joseph McRandles, son of Ann, and Edward, James, Leonard, Jane and Rachel Hatton, children of Robert. View full context Book Page: Surname: Hatton Given Name: James Title: Description: Son Residence: Date: 5 Jul 1777 Prove Date: 18 Nov 1779 Remarks: Hatton, Edward. Jul. 5, 1777. Executors: Adam Semonds and Archibald McGrew. Huntington Township. Children: John, James, Ann wife of Roland McRandles, Robert, and Mary wife of Adam Seymonds. Grandchildren: Joseph McRandles, son of Ann, and Edward, James, Leonard, Jane and Rachel Hatton, children of Robert. About Us | Contact Us | Partner with Us | Terms & Conditions | Privacy Statement Copyright © 1998-2000, MyFamily.com Inc. and its subsidiaries.

When War of 1812 troubles forced Nantucket,and Martha's Vinevard, [and maybe the Lindale down -east Maine shore?] whalers to mid Clermont, some of them had already sailed for whales all over the world. "Moby Dick" style. 2 villages in Clermont have the names of 2 town's on Java [island] East Indies- Batavia and Bantam. Tradition is that whaler Thomas Pinkham named Bantam,Oh because,on Java, a Bantam was about the same distance from Batavia, Java,as Bantam,Oh was from Batavia, O. I've heard Batavia,Oh was named for Batavia,NY, and I have no opinion. But,Java was a Dutch island,and Batavia,Java,was named for Batavia,in the Netherlands. Harlem,NY city,for Harlem,in the Netherlands,etc. It's sunny,and still in Clermont this Thanksgiving am, but very cold. Maybe 10-15 degrees. Happy Thanksgiving to all ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

That Presbyterian church mentioned divided into two parts. Each of these still exist today. One is the Pleasant Ridge Presbyterian on Montgomery Rd and the other is Covenant at Eighth and Race downtown Cincy. Hrman Kleine -----Original Message----- From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 6:22 AM Subject: 1st 11 miles of the Little Miami ,1789 >Memory is that it was 11 miles between the Fort Miami at Columbia, >1789,and the 1790-91 >COVALT'S,and then Round Bottom forts at Terrace Park-Milford, where the >East Fork >splits off,and Clermont begins. That 11 miles of Little Miami,and it's >reaches further north,divide >the [NJ] Symmes purchace of 1-3,000,000 acres from the Virginia Miliatry >District of lands warrented >Va line [mostly ]officers for 1776 service,or later. >That means west of the Little Miami,and east of the Great Miami as far >north as Dayton[ Lebanon] , >more of the pioneers were attracted by NJ ads. But,it does not mean that >east of the Little Miami >were all from, or mostly from,Va,a least directly. Even if you have an >1850 or 1860 census saying born Va, >remember WV was split off in 1863,and they more likely. And,you have the >problem that Va claimed,and >ruled thru 3 Va counties, the,at least 5 sw Pa counties Pittsburg south. >And the single best place to >look for sw Ohio people is sw Pa-WV panhandle, followed by upper Potomac >river drains from Wash DC >NORTH AND WEST, and NJ counties of >Essex,Morris,Hunterdon,Gloucester,Middlesex,Somerset, >and Burlington. Next would be se Pa-Del ,and the north-eastern 1\4 of >Maryland-Hagerstown east. >O.K. 11 miles of rich,rich,but flood prone mile wide valley settled >1789,and Indian peace treaty 1795. >1st ,the southern half,the rich bottoms are mostly on the west,or >Columbia twnsp,or Symmes Purchace SIDE > And,up to Round Bottom at Terrace Park,the bottoms of the 2nd 1\2 half >are on the Anderson Twnsp. or Va Military >side.Though unhealthy,these bottoms will grow 100 bu \acre corn,and be >refertilized next flood. >The nearby hilltops might grow 50 bu\acre, and the steep hills in between >some places are too steep for >pasture. Hills 400[?] feet high. >The forts on the east,or Va Military side may have been squatting at 1st. >No land deeds. Jonathan Gerrard's Station, >and next north at RT 125 and river,Jacob Frazee's, and >next,someplace,Middle Station, [Old Fort subdivision?] >and then Aaron Mercer's Newtown, and then 3-4 miles of most bottom,and >ford the river to >Round Bottom and Covalt's Station. >West side,and I should research this, had Columbia, as big as >Cincinnati,but too flood prone, and >Turkey Bottom fort,and Nelson's-Nutt's, near Ward's,and where the >bottoms on the west side end, >Beasley's. Maybe more. Benj Stites,ofScotch Plains,NJ, and >Waynesburg,very se Pa led the Xmas 1788 >colony, and was a major land speculator on the Little Miami. . Early >Cincinnati had a Presbyterian >church. These 11 miles would have Baptist churches at Columbia,ISLAND N >Newtown,and Round Bottom, >and Presbyterian at Colubia. In Clermont,the East Fork valley would be >Baptist and Methodist., > >______________________________

I live on the Ohio Turnpike,3 miles from it's eastern end at Bethel. 10 feet due east of this computer is one of it's milestones from ,once,Ely's store, and,I note, Thomas Sheldon,father-in-law of Benj Ely was once secretary of the turnpike company . Maurice Witham,of the Maine settlement at I-275 -RT 125 -Withamsville was President. And,if I were to hunt,I know there are share[s] of stock in the Ohio Turnpike Co in this house,someplace. 1831,the turnpike company projected Cincinnati to Portsmout, but actually built 21 1\2 miles from Union Bridge over the Little Miami [RT 125 AND 32 intersection] [El Rancho Rankin' to Bethel. Withamsville and Lindale were Maine settlements on- near the Ohio Pike. Beechmont Ave, Ohio Pike,and St Rt 125 are modern names for the pike. 1955-56, - Kilgore,and Walt Ham, and a Hall boy from the grocery then in Hamlet drag raced this straight stretch of the Ohio Pike daily. 1820 Ohio township would have included Pierce Twnsp,the s w most in Clermont. So,LINDALE WAS IN Ohio twnsp. 1812 Maine people Coombs,Tibbetts,Doane, more. mixed among Nantucket-Martha's Vineyard ex whalers. Hiram born en route Maine>Ohio? Many,many Waits n e Williamsburg,just in Sterling Twnsp,Brown Co. 1830 school census shoiwed 1 1 room school almost all Waits. Angeline hints at Monmouth Co,NJ aNGIE French. On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:38:44 -0500 "lillian leedom" <lili@bright.net> writes: > Mr. Fagley, > I didn't have your home email address so I am going this route. > My Great Grandfather Hiram H. Hall and his son Jobe worked on the > Ohio > Pike. Can you tell me where did the Pike originate at and where was > its > ending Point? > I think the Father of Hiram was Job Hall, Job married to Rosemina > Hall in > Maine in 1814, and Hiram was born so his death certificate says in > Pa. I > can't find anything in Pa. on his birth. I know Hiram ended up in > Clermont > Co. > There is a Job Hall found in the 1820 census in Ohio Twp.. 1830 / > 1840 in > Miami Twp. 1850 Wayne Twp. then in 1851 Ohio Tax list. > Job married Ruth Rideout in 1828 in cleremont and Ruth was from > Stonelick > Twp. > Hiram married Mary Wiley in 1848 found this in your records down > there. > One of Hiram's sons Francis Hiram married a Rosetta Tucker daughter > of > Patrick Tucker and Angeline Waites Rosetta's Death Certificate > states her > Father was Patrck Tucker and Anna Waites. Patrick and Angeline was > married > in Highland County Ohio her death record says she was born in > Madison In. > We have looked in Madison County and think maybe they meant Madison > twp. > they were around Jay Co. and Randolph Co. In. > My Father William Francis can remember Francis Hiram telling how > he killed > a man over Rosetta and put his body in the River this I tend not to > believe > I think it might have just been a tale to tell the granchildren. > To make this long letter short can you give me an idea how to go on > with my > Quest? > A couple of Cousins and I are making a Book on the Hall's and would > love to > be able to go further back than just Hiram H. Hall > Thank you very much as I do enjoy the history that you give on > Clermont > Co. > Thank you again > Jo Hall Leedom > lili@bright.net >

Walter, saw your post on Turner/Thompson. Recently got a copy of the Thompson Genealogy by Rev. Sinnet; looked up Charlotte and have sent you this excerpt; page 181 "CHARLOTTE WELCH THOMPSON. b. Sept. 9 1816; d. Dec. 14,1873 (57yr.3m., 3d.); m. Jan. 19 1845, Ekekiel Edwin TURNER, b. Dec 17, 1817 d. June 2, 1889. This family lived on a farm two and one-half miles south of Bethel, O. on the Cincinnati Pike; this was sold to Mr. Poole and a farm purchased on the same road in Brown County, three and one-half miles east of Bethel, O. of 213 acres, to which forty acres of timber land were added. Mr. Turner started in life without means, but by hard work he became well-to-do; he was a good business manager, a good neighbor, and always ready to help the sick and dying all that lay in his power. Of the wife no one could speak too highly in praise; her life was regarded as a well-nigh perfect one; among the sick and dying she was of strongest help, for seven days and nights she waited on a sick orphan girl, who was an entire stranger to her, with the most loving care; Mrs. Fred Morgan, who had lived beside her for twenty years, declared that she had never seen a woman like her for helpfulness; she was one of the finest spinners, and in the fall before she died she spun twenty-four cuts of long reeled yarn as a days 's work; she was a good weaver." Could not pass up such a nice memory of someone, hope you enjoyed and found it useful. Warrene

Probably not the same one. Mine was born in 1817, 1818 or 1819 in Ohio, Kentucky or Pennsylvania (respectively) depending on which Census you believe. <g> He was in Clermont County OH at least by 1845 when he was married to Charlotte Welch Thompson. He died there in 1889. Walter -----Original Message----- From: Virginia Parmenter [mailto:ginnyp@sprynet.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 1:54 PM To: wwood@cfl.rr.com Subject: Ezekiel Turner By any chance, was your Ezekiel Turner born in NC where he was reared and married? If so, I have some help for you. Virginia

The following names are related to Sanford Allen GELVIN, maybe among their papers is the key to this mystery. Be advised i know little or nothing about these people. They lived with in a 100 year period in Clermont Co., GELVIN, GILVIN, BOLANDER, PRIMMER, STRATTON, MEGIBBON, IRETON, DRAKE, VEARS, GLAIZER, WIGGLESWORTH, MASSEY, WARD, MANNING, BLAIR, SIMON, HENDERIXSON, IDLETT, BEYENDERFER, CAUDLE, LEGATE, THOMAS My chidlren with no parents are; Harriett GELVIN-WARD Julia Ann GELVIN-WIGGLESWORTH Mary GELVIN-BLAIR Sanford A. GELVIN- m. Lydia PRIMMER Rachel GELVIN-MANNING Does this look like a family with no parents????? The obituary of any one of these could hold the answer. Any Help will be greatly appreciated. June

Hi Kevin Do you have any TURNERs in Clermont Co.? I am looking for parents of Ezekiel E. Turner. Thanks Walter Wood wwood@cfl.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: KevinOMReb@aol.com [mailto:KevinOMReb@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 11:58 AM To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: This list I subscribe to over 50 lists of surnames and counties, and by far THIS list has more pertinent and insightful information than any of the others combined. My thanks to Hermon, and especially to all those who respond quickly and thoughtfully to my (and others) inquiries. Thanks again and heres to many a brick wall falling in 2001! Kevin Marsh Little Rock, AR formerly of Anderson Twp. names- HESLER, ABBOTT, OGDEN, LANHAM, PRATHER, MCKIBBEN, COLTHAR, SHOTWELL, BROOKS, BELL, COLBERT, DEMARIS, HOUSTON, TURNER, BROWN ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Memory is that it was 11 miles between the Fort Miami at Columbia, 1789,and the 1790-91 COVALT'S,and then Round Bottom forts at Terrace Park-Milford, where the East Fork splits off,and Clermont begins. That 11 miles of Little Miami,and it's reaches further north,divide the [NJ] Symmes purchace of 1-3,000,000 acres from the Virginia Miliatry District of lands warrented Va line [mostly ]officers for 1776 service,or later. That means west of the Little Miami,and east of the Great Miami as far north as Dayton[ Lebanon] , more of the pioneers were attracted by NJ ads. But,it does not mean that east of the Little Miami were all from, or mostly from,Va,a least directly. Even if you have an 1850 or 1860 census saying born Va, remember WV was split off in 1863,and they more likely. And,you have the problem that Va claimed,and ruled thru 3 Va counties, the,at least 5 sw Pa counties Pittsburg south. And the single best place to look for sw Ohio people is sw Pa-WV panhandle, followed by upper Potomac river drains from Wash DC NORTH AND WEST, and NJ counties of Essex,Morris,Hunterdon,Gloucester,Middlesex,Somerset, and Burlington. Next would be se Pa-Del ,and the north-eastern 1\4 of Maryland-Hagerstown east. O.K. 11 miles of rich,rich,but flood prone mile wide valley settled 1789,and Indian peace treaty 1795. 1st ,the southern half,the rich bottoms are mostly on the west,or Columbia twnsp,or Symmes Purchace SIDE And,up to Round Bottom at Terrace Park,the bottoms of the 2nd 1\2 half are on the Anderson Twnsp. or Va Military side.Though unhealthy,these bottoms will grow 100 bu \acre corn,and be refertilized next flood. The nearby hilltops might grow 50 bu\acre, and the steep hills in between some places are too steep for pasture. Hills 400[?] feet high. The forts on the east,or Va Military side may have been squatting at 1st. No land deeds. Jonathan Gerrard's Station, and next north at RT 125 and river,Jacob Frazee's, and next,someplace,Middle Station, [Old Fort subdivision?] and then Aaron Mercer's Newtown, and then 3-4 miles of most bottom,and ford the river to Round Bottom and Covalt's Station. West side,and I should research this, had Columbia, as big as Cincinnati,but too flood prone, and Turkey Bottom fort,and Nelson's-Nutt's, near Ward's,and where the bottoms on the west side end, Beasley's. Maybe more. Benj Stites,ofScotch Plains,NJ, and Waynesburg,very se Pa led the Xmas 1788 colony, and was a major land speculator on the Little Miami. . Early Cincinnati had a Presbyterian church. These 11 miles would have Baptist churches at Columbia,ISLAND N Newtown,and Round Bottom, and Presbyterian at Colubia. In Clermont,the East Fork valley would be Baptist and Methodist.,

Researching following families who migrated from Hunterdon County, NJ., to Belmont and Clermont Counties, Oh.(Later to Grant, Delaware, Madison, and Hamilton Counties, Indiana) Wishing to make contact with anyone who will share information...Schuyler, Hoffman, Philhower,Tiger,Apgar, etc Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

I subscribe to over 50 lists of surnames and counties, and by far THIS list has more pertinent and insightful information than any of the others combined. My thanks to Hermon, and especially to all those who respond quickly and thoughtfully to my (and others) inquiries. Thanks again and heres to many a brick wall falling in 2001! Kevin Marsh Little Rock, AR formerly of Anderson Twp. names- HESLER, ABBOTT, OGDEN, LANHAM, PRATHER, MCKIBBEN, COLTHAR, SHOTWELL, BROOKS, BELL, COLBERT, DEMARIS, HOUSTON, TURNER, BROWN

This is just to add my appreciation to Mr. Fagley's contributions to this site. What an overview -- both history and geography. Thank you.

It's been a while since I posted my tree- here's hoping there's some new members with a connection (or old members with new info). :-) Have traced my family back to Robert McFarland (b:7/10/1766, Ireland? - d:4/12/1853, Amelia, OH) & wife Rebecca. I know that some of Robert & Rebecca's descendants, and possibly 1 or more siblings, went on to Fulton County, IL. Also, G.W. lived in Elyria, OH (near Cleveland) area for several years. Would be happy to share what I have on his descendants, and would like to hear from anyone with additional info on Robert and Rebecca & their ancestors. - Jim <Jim.McF63@juno.com> My tree in a nutshell: ROBERT McFarland b 7/10/1766 in Ireland, d 4/12/1853 in Amelia, Clermont County, OH. m (bef 1812) Rebecca ______ b 3/24/1785 in Ireland, d 1/4/1853 in Amelia, Clermont, OH Their children: Nancy (7/20/1812-8/17/1835), Jane (3/24/1814- ?), Robert Jr. (10/12/1816-7/10/1891), Elizabeth (5/1/1817-4/21/1818), CYRUS (12/23/1818-4/12/1861), Andrew (9/15,1820-10/14/1855), Sarah Eliza (8/20/1822-1900) CYRUS McFarland m (10/6/1844) Nancy Redebaugh (b 11/18/1825 In Brown County, OH; d 6/11/1871) Their children: William Francis (8/19/1846-4/26/1865), GEORGE WASHINGTON (5/5/1848-2/15/1920), Mary Lucille (5/15/1850-2/16/1870), Emma Rebecca (12/16/1852-5/2/1869), Clara Belle (6/14/1856-4/16/1878), Charlie (10/31/1859-8/18/1861) GEORGE WASHINGTON McFarland m1 (10/10/1870) Melvina Lawyer (b 8/25/1849 in Hamilton Co., OH; d 6/14/1890) [8 children] m2 (11/30/1892) Emma Louetta Brown (b 9/5/1861; d 3/15/1920 in Dayton, Montgomery Co., OH) G.W. & Emma had 3 children - Anna (4/3/1894-4/14/1918), CHARLES B. (7/11/1895-10/16/1984), George Cyrus (2/24/1897-?) CHARLES B. is my Grandfather. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

There is a Hamersville on OH rt 125 in Brown Co. about 6-8 miles east of Georgetown and about same distance west of Bethel in Clermont Co. Town consists of a school and a small number of houses and not much else. Town has changed little in last 50 years. Herman Kleine -----Original Message----- From: Karen J. Erickson <kje11@hotmail.com> To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 19, 2000 3:16 PM Subject: HAMER >I'm glad to help if I can. > >Henry FITZPATRICK born in Pa. >Elizabeth JOHNSON marr. 20 Jan 1792 Bourbon Co. Ky. >(I got the marriage date from some records submitted to the mormon church. >I'm afraid I don't have the actual citation) I think they went to Lawrence >Co. about 1811-1814. > >Henry and Elizabeth, along w/ some HAMER'S are buried at Spring Mill Park. > >Children: >1. James married Ann BEHYMER. They were living in Lawrence Co. when he died >while on a tour of the river. She later moved back to Cler. Co. > >2. Solomon born 14 Dec 1793 Crab Orchard, Ky. He married Sarah DONTHAM, and >they had a large family. She died and he married again, and had more >children. > >3. Johnson married Isabelle BATMAN. I believe they stayed in Cler. Co. > >4. Elizabeth married Hugh HAMER, 28 Feb 1822. >5. Hannah married Thomas HAMER, 30 Jun 1823 >(Both of these marriages took place in Lawrence Co. Ind. > >I may have misled you when if I said the HAMER'S were in Clermont Co. I >don't know that for sure but there are little hints here and there. There is >a HAMERSVILLE on the border of Clark and Clermont Counties. Also a HAMER'S >Run listed in the Clermont County History, Pierce twsp. > >I don't show any HAMER'S in "Clermont County Deeds and Mortgages" >1791-1830", or "Clermont Marriage Records" 1800-1850. > >There is a Thomas L. HAMER estate, shown in Mar and Sep 1849. One reference >is Bk. S, Pg. 75, the other is Bk.S, Pg. 273. > >Also, Eliza J. HAMER, estate, 01 Jul 1899, A.10-383 > >About 10 years ago I was corresonding w/ a Paul W. Fitzpatrick at 104 Meadow >Vue Ct. N. Dr. Indianapolis 46277. At some point the address wasn't any good >anymore. I think he was a decendent of Johnson FITZPATRICK. >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. >

Can someone give me the address for the Bethel Journal. Are the older copies of this paper in the Library at Batavia?? thank you, June GELVIN, PRIMMER,

Hello, Allow me to introduce myself. My name is David. I have a great Aunt who's 1990 death certificate says she was buried in Batavia Cemetery. Problem is I can't seem to find an address where I can write to them for cemetery records. Can some one out there help me out? Your time and assitance would be appreciated. David

> Understand,before Clermont Co settlement started the 1795-96 >winter after the treaty of Greenville brought Indian peace, there >were earlier white settlements,in forts,or stations,nearby. The >earliest were in the Maysville-Washington,Mason Co,Ky area and >included Dan'l Boon and Simon Kenton. Hermon: According to the History of Clermont Co., my Sargents & Pigmans moved from MD to KY in 1796, then on to Clermont in 1798. Is is likely that the two years in KY would have been in this Maysville-Washington, Mason Co. area? Thanks, Virginia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.214 / Virus Database: 101 - Release Date: 11/16/00

Understand,before Clermont Co settlement started the 1795-96 winter after the treaty of Greenville brought Indian peace, there were earlier white settlements,in forts,or stations,nearby. The earliest were in the Maysville-Washington,Mason Co,Ky area and included Dan'l Boon and Simon Kenton. The only other place early Ky settlement reached the Ohio River was downstream 100+ miles at Louisville. 2nd,there is a mile+ wide valley [flood plain] running up the Little Miami River,from it's mouth at Columbia's Ft Miami 11? miles to Terrace Park-Round Bottom-Milford. Columbia was 1788-89,and Covalt's,and the Round Bottom Stations followed 1790-91. Within sight of where the East Fork spilts from the main Little Miami at s Mildord, and where Clermont begins. I'm betting one of the 2 major settlement area of Clermont were Milford,and a few miles up those rivers, and a few miles up those roads now called Rts 28,50,and 131. And then,when Indian peace seemed finally to have been reached by the 1795 treaty of Greenville, some of those people,like the Donham's, and Arthur's, moved further into Clermont. I know of 5 ,only forts,on the Ky side from Maysville,to across from Cincinnati. Two of those were in western Mason Co,Ky. 2 more,in Bracken Co,Ky [Alex Buchanan's mil west of Germantown, Ky and Leach's [someplace?] Since it is recorded that 100+ families left very,very sw Pa for what became Bracken Co,in 1789-91,there were likely more. I think these people expected Harmar's and then Gov St Clair's armies to beat the Indians,in 1789 and 91, starting a Miami's land rush. And,those armies being defeated, those of that land rush settled,often in Bracken Co,Ky just s of s e Clermont-Brown, and in that 11 miles at the mouth of the Little Miami. For those people,we use Howard Leckey's great book, "The Tenmile country,and it's Pioneer Families" [very sw Pa], Horn Papers Vol 3 [only]"; 1790 census index of Washington Co,Pa , and there is a good book on the early forts near Cincinnati by sp? Shymyhorn sp? Anderson and Columbia townships, NW Territory was that mile + bottom 2nd very early settlement was in the Ohio River bottoms,and nearby mill sites on creeks. And nearby hilltop tablelands. Rt 133 AND RT 52,in particular. And up RT 133 [Bullskin Trace] to Bethel [1797] and Williamsburg[1796] . Sometimes the bottoms on the Ohio River are all on the Ohio side.Sometimes all on the Ky side. Often,you can tell with a normal map by seeing where the villages are. Levanna,only? has zero bottom. And the west ends of Ripley and Maysville have none. Rt's 125 and 222 S had a 1798 settlement of the sw Pa ,vis s Louisville,people. One should remember,hunters,and maybe squatters,were ahead of what I type, and built rude cabins for shelter at salt licks,etc. Before Indian peace. I should mention the settlers west of the Little Miami were from NJ way out of proportion with other colonies,for NJ land speculators,owned,and advertized in NJ ,3,000,000 ACRES between the Miami's,from 1788. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I can relate to June's frustration. I have been looking for my Phineas L. CARTER for some time. And, except for census I can find no records. I'll try again here. Phineas L CARTER b. 1814 New Richmond (Clermont County) of parents unk from PA. Married 1838(1839) to Nancy Caroline EDWARDS b. 1815,or18??. Located 1840 census in New Richmond, by 1850 in Tate Township (Bethel).with Son John, James, & Silas, Sebena & Katie. They moved to IA in 1869 Son John (a single man) b. 1851 moved with them to Iowa. As did Silas. Son James CARTER b. 1840 married Cynthia WEST b. 1841 married 1861. Lived in Tate Township (Bethel) from 1861 until their move in early 1880's. Cynthia's Sister Mary Jane WEST married George CLARE 1865. 1880 census shows, Evanlaine b. 1867, OH; Thomas (?) b. 1870,OH; Duskey (Dolly) b. 1872 IA, Lowell b. 1880 (OH). I have not been able to find anything about that Clare family at all.-- I know there were relatives located in Bethel in the mid 20's as my mother remembers her father taking the family from Iowa to OH to visit relatives. I hope this finds some sort of connection; or someone has some ideas of where to look....I have looked at census records, & some of the books at the Batavia Library when visiting there a day. I'm not located near Ohio so it takes a vacation, but I wonder if my next step would be the courthouse to check wills on Mary Jane Clare & George Clare? Just some thoughts & ramblings since I seem to be at a standstill. Betty .