Warrene, Do you know the parents of the Margaret Temple who married Andrew Coombs? I am researching the Temple line in Clermont Co. & Maine. Thanks. Lynda Speidel ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wforgeron@aol.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 1:00 AM Subject: THOMPSON.COOMBS > Herman and Listers: > Been going through my Misc. files. on the name Hubbard > . Abigail Thompson 1750 Me. d. Lindale O 1839 m. Ebenezer Coombs had a son > Andrew Coombs b. 1775 d, Lindale O 1847 m #2 Margaret Temple. they had a > daughter, Martha Robinson Coombs m. Rufus Hubbard, merchant they had a son b > 1839 in Lindale named Rev. Andrew Coombs Hubbard,.Baptist Minister, m. 1861 > Abby Maria Melliken , do not know if they stayed in Lindale, probably not if > he was a preacher, they moved a lot. > > Also looking for Boat Run Ohio old cemetery, had to be moved because of > flooding, is it in New Richmond. Hugh Mulloy is suppose to be buried there. > Any one have comments or thoughts Warrene > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >
Herman and Listers: Been going through my Misc. files. on the name Hubbard . Abigail Thompson 1750 Me. d. Lindale O 1839 m. Ebenezer Coombs had a son Andrew Coombs b. 1775 d, Lindale O 1847 m #2 Margaret Temple. they had a daughter, Martha Robinson Coombs m. Rufus Hubbard, merchant they had a son b 1839 in Lindale named Rev. Andrew Coombs Hubbard,.Baptist Minister, m. 1861 Abby Maria Melliken , do not know if they stayed in Lindale, probably not if he was a preacher, they moved a lot. Also looking for Boat Run Ohio old cemetery, had to be moved because of flooding, is it in New Richmond. Hugh Mulloy is suppose to be buried there. Any one have comments or thoughts Warrene
Karen: My web page is at: http://members.home.net/johntippet/ I too have corresponded with Ralph Behymer, although somewhat more than 20 years ago by now. Ralph is in my database, but does not appear on my web page because I have limited the number of generations that I display to five from the common ancestor, Elder Johan George Beckelhymer. I am not familiar with a diary of Lora Behymer Duley. Perhaps you are referring to Aaron Sargent Behymer's diary. This diary is posted on the scanned images section of my web page. On page three is the reference to Anna Behymer who married "Mr Fitzpatrick." Aaron gives Anna's children as: William, Elizabeth, Adaline, Franklin (evidently Benjamin Franklin) and Eveline. The Behymer - France line is interesting. Three of the early Behymers of Clermont County, Jacob, Daniel and Joel, married France sisters: Elizabeth, Mary and Eve, respectively. Check out the will of their father, Michael France, on my web page. It is quite interesting reading as Michael evidently was having a difficult time "balancing the books" among his three daughters as he lay on his death bed. I have never actually been to Clermont County, but I am aware that Ralph Behymer's research materials were donated to the library there. It is on my list of things to do in the future. BTW: check out the land transactions section of my web page. There, you will find, among other families, all the Fitzpatrick land transactions from 1800 through 1879. There are four deeds listed between James Fitzpatrick's heirs and Elijah Mattox. I have not actually seen these particular deeds yet. I only transcribed the entries from the deed index. Now that I know that this pertains to Ann Behymer, I will order the microfilm from my local LDS FHC and check them out. I found it interesting that you had thought about Orange County, IN. I only speculated that the James Fitzpatrick aho appears in the 1820 Orange County, IN census might be the James who married Anna Behymer. Any chance I could get a copy of the guardianship papers that you mention for James and Sybil? I would be happy to cover your espenses, which, BTW, I have been negligent in offering before now. John Charles Tippet johntippet@home.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> To: <johntippet@home.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: BEHYMER/FITZPATRICK > Sorry, I wasn't actually looking at the website when I made my observation. > I had copied the generation pages so I could review them at my leisure. > Please give me the URL again so I can bookmark it. I didn't realize we were > going to be having so much conversation. > > Now that you mention it, I also have a notation re: Benjamin and Unis w/ > children going to Fountain Co. IN. This reference comes from Ralph BEHYMER > who lived outside Withamsville. He was an avid genealogist and I > corresponded w/ him during the 1970's. Instead of trying to "piece meal" the > information together I will send copies of the letters. That way you can > take what you need, if anything. He says that he is descended from Solomon > BEHYMER who married Polly WEBB. > > There is also a reference to a diary from Lora BEHYMER DULEY. Are you > familiar w/ that. > > I have a copy of an undated letter to Aileen, I assume it's Aileen Witt. The > person said that they had done some work on the BEHYMER-FRANCE line. No > other details were given. It is signed Hilda Blakney. > > I was in Clermont Co. in the 1970's and met with Ralph. Then again in 1991. > He had died by then but the library in Batavia had a file cabinet full of > his correspondence re: various families in Clermont County. Are you familiar > w/ that? > > I also have copies of letters that I wrote requesting probate files on James > in Lawrence and Orange Counties in Indiana. They had none. > > I will continue to think about whose daughter Nancy FITPATRICK BEHYMER might > be. James and Sybil's children are pretty well lined out in a guardianship > proceeding, and Nancy doesn't fit in. But I'll check some more. > > That's all I can think of for the moment. > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >
Does anyone show any additional books w/ printed information necessary for Clermont County research? Is the Clermont Genealogical Society working on any additional publications? 1. Monument Inscriptions prior to 1900 in Clermont Co. Ohio 2. Historical Souvenirs of Clermont Co., Containing Encyclopedic Directory & History of Clermont Co., Thirey & Mitchel, 1902, and Atlas of Clermont Co., Labe & Gordon, 1891, and A Pioneer Profile - Early Days of Clermont Co, Robert K. Slade, 1964, Printed by Unigraphic Inc., 1977. 3. History of Clermont County, 1880, reproduced by Unigraphic Inc., 1973. 4. Marriage Records, Clermont Co. 1800-1850 5. Clermont Co. Deeds and Mortgages, 1791-1830, An Index, by Alma Smith 6. Index to History of Clermont Co. 1795-1880 7. Clermont Co. Land Records, 1787-1812, Survey, Patents, Deeds & Mortgages with Index of grantors and grantees by Alma Smith 8. Clermont Co. Naturalizations, an Index, 1811-1929, by Aileen Whitt 9. Clermont Co. Revolutionary War Veterans, Vol. I & Vol. II, by Aileen Whitt. 10. Clermont Co. Wills, Estates, & Guardianships, an Index, 1800-1900, Vol. I & Vol. II, by Aileen Whitt. 11. Clermont Co. Deaths, an Index, 1856-1908, by Aileen Whitt. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
"Monument Inscriptions prior to 1900 in Clermont Co. Ohio" shows a Family Cemetery of Thomas WOOD on Verkamp farm. Transcribed by Mrs. W.A. White and Mrs. W. Earle Johnson OLD FAMILY CEMETERY Of Revolutionary Soldier Thomas WOOD in Pierce Township, Clermont Co., Ohio on Verkamp farm in 1956, 1/2 mile from civilization. Go to end of Gaskins Rd. and over the hill. Many years ago there was a road and house nearby. Now the nearest home is Martin's farm home in 1956. James WOOD - d Jan 30, 1865 aged 86y 5m 6d Mary - wife of James WOOD - d Nov 5, 1866 aged 81y 8m 19d Huldah - dau of D & H REDMON d Mar 15, 1854 - 6y 8m Roene E. - dau of Henry G and Ann M. KELY d Nov 29, 1850 - 9m 14d Thomas WOOD - Rev. Soldier is undoubtedly buried here and grave marked by a field stone. Ann WOOD? - Field stone on right side of above stone There are other WOOD(S) but I thought these looked the closest. Address: 117 Duke Way Fairbanks, AK. 99709 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
I'm researching a William Perry Leeds and wife Susannah R. Harden. I have her parents as William H. Harden and Lucy P. Ranson/Ransom. I descend from a dau. of William and Susannah Leeds, Minnie Minervia Leeds b. 1863. Minnie married Orlando Chesterfield Powless 4/25/1881 at Fairfield, Il. I'm hoping to extend the Leeds, Harden and Ransom/Ranson line back. Thank you Chuck Gibson
I assume you've seen the references in Vols. I and II of "Clermont Co. Ohio Revolutionary War Veterans" by Aileen Witt _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
I assume you've seen the references in Vols. I and II of "Clermont Co. Ohio Revolutionary War Veterans" by Aileen Witt _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Some years back I reviewed a microfilm, "Clermont Co. Births" Vol. 1, July 1867 to Nov 1878. I show a Ida(?) L. MULLOY born 04 Sep 1869, Monroe Twsp. to Morton MULLOY and Hannah(?) FITZPATRICK. Also, marriage records Vol. 7 1855-1859 William B. ALTMAN 30 Susanah MULOY 20 Marr. 22 Feb 1859 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Karen: I notice that the eldest daughter of Nancy Fitzpatrick and Daniel Behymer was named Eunice. I wonder if Nancy might have been the last child of James Fitzpatrick and Sybil John, having named her eldest daughter after her sister? Having died in 1874, it might be possible to obtain an obit on Nancy? John Charles Tippet johntippet@home.com
Karen: Benjamin Beckelhymer's marriage dates do appear on my web page. You need to click on Benjamin Beckelhymer (#55) to get to the details of Benjamin's family. His four sons were Peter (#200), Enos, Isaiah (#201) and Levi (#202). BTW: Nancy Fitzpatrick married Daniel Behymer (#93), the son of Jacob Behymer (#20). Also, I have Anna Behymer (#62), daughter of Samuel (#14) incorrectly listed as the wife of Solomon Fitzpatrick (as Karen so kindly pointed out, Anna Behymer's husband was James, not Solomon Fitzpatrick). I will correct this on my next web page update. John Charles Tippet johntippet@home.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 5:36 AM Subject: BEHYMER > In looking at your web site I noticed that you didn't have marriage dates > Benjamin BECKELHYMER and Jane FERGUSON, or Eunice FITZPATRICK. > > "Marriage Records of Clermont Co. 1800-1850" shows 17 Oct 1819 as the > marriage to Jane, and 12 Sep 1824 to Eunice(Unis) > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >
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In looking at your web site I noticed that you didn't have marriage dates Benjamin BECKELHYMER and Jane FERGUSON, or Eunice FITZPATRICK. "Marriage Records of Clermont Co. 1800-1850" shows 17 Oct 1819 as the marriage to Jane, and 12 Sep 1824 to Eunice(Unis) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
John FITZPATRICK, who married Sarah TATMAN is the son of Solomon. I show that John died in 1912. Zachariah who married Deanna TATMAN is also the son of Solomon. I show that he died 24 Jul 1867. Solomon also has a daughter Elizabeth born circa 1821, died in 1843 but I have no marriage information on her. Solomon also has a son William but I show the middle initial to be "H". He was born circa 1818, died 17 Feb 1905/06. The death records say 1905, the tombstone, 1906. The other two Williams are not known to me. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
John FITZPATRICK, who married Sarah TATMAN is the son of Solomon. I show that John died in 1912. Zachariah who married Deanna TATMAN is also the son of Solomon. I show that he died 24 Jul 1867. Solomon also has a daughter Elizabeth born circa 1821, died in 1843 but I have no marriage information on her. Solomon also has a son William but I show the middle initial to be "H". He was born circa 1818, died 17 Feb 1905/06. The death records say 1905, the tombstone, 1906. The other two Williams are not known to me. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Karen: Nancy Fitzpatrick married Daniel Behymer on 29 Oct 1835 per the marriage records of Clermont County, OH. Daniel and Nancy are buried in the Behymer Private Cemetery on Ten Mile Road, Pierce Twp, Clermont County, OH per "Monument Inscriptions Prior to 1900 from Cemeteries in Clermont County, Ohio" published by the DAR ladies in 1948. Her inscription reads: Nancy Behymer, b. 14 Feb 1814; d. 12 Aug 1874. Other early Fitzpatricks married in Clermont County, OH were: William P Fitspatrick to Abigail Fletcher, 5 Jul 1829 Elizabeth Fitzpatrick to James Arthur, 11 Apr 1844 John Fitzpatrick to Sarah Tatman, 18 Apr 1847 William B Fitzpatrick to Nancy West, 11 Apr 1844 Zachariach Fitzpatrick to Deanna Tatman, 2 Dec 1848 Do you know who the parents were of any of the above? John Charles Tippet johntippet@home.com P.S. Thanking you in advance for the copies you are sending my way! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> To: <johntippet@home.com> Cc: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:32 AM Subject: Re: More Fitzpatrick Questions > I don't know where the Nancy FITZPATRICK fits in that you are referring to. > Where did you get the birth date? The only two FITZPATRICK'S that were in > Clermont Co. at that time were my James, and Henry who removed to Lawrence > Co. Indiana. I can't seem to fit her in w/ either of them. > > Henry's children get a little more vague every time I look at them. You know > how it goes; you look for information, write it down, and then when it isn't > your direct line ancestor it goes in a separate folder. I must admit however > that you've done a VERY good job at keeping them ALL straight. > > Anyway, I've always shown James who died in 1824 as a son of Henry, but > after reviewing my files I find information from Paul W. Fitzpatrick at 1111 > Paradise Ct. Greenwood, In. which doesn't show him. I was corresponding w/ > him about 10-15 years ago. We didn't discuss it but maybe I need to bring > that to his attention. > > Then, to make matters even more confusing I found a couple other documents > on Ann BEYMER FITZPATRICK which go along w/ her bounty land application, > separate from the ones I just sent. I'll copy those for you too. They don't > really tell us anything more, but it does say that James had a brother > William who went to Port Gibson after his death. Well, that's a new one. > Neither Paul FITZPATRICK, nor I had him listed. > > Then, there's another document which talks about the settling of Henry > FITZPATRICK'S estate, and it talks about James' heirs. It doesn't mention > them by name however. Whew!!! > > Also "Clermont County Ohio Death Index, 1856-1908" by Aileen Witt shows a > Nancy BEHYMER, age 60yrs, DOD: 12 Aug 1874, Bk. D-1 Pg. 112, and Nancy > BEHYMER, age 71yrs, DOD: 14 Oct 1883, Bk. D-3 Pg. 16. > > As far as Ann BEHYMER's children, I'm at a loss. One suggestion is a > guardianship that may have been instigated in Lawrence Co. after James died. > I think I have a reference to that in my notes but I need to look. > > W/ all of us going in separate directions it's hard to know if I've just > given you information that you've already thought about or not. Have you > checked the 1860 census for Ann? I don't show her but I may not have gone > through the complete county like I did for other years. > > I'll be in touch. > > >From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@home.com> > >To: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> > >Subject: More Fitzpatrick Questions > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:24:51 -0800 > > > >Karen: > > > >Here are a couple more Fitzpatrick "loose ends" in my database. Perhaps, > >you can help me out here. > > > >(1) Nancy Fitzpatrick, b. 14 Feb 1814, married Daniel Behymer on 29 Oct > >1835 > >in Clermont County, OH. Do you know who Nancy's parents were? > > > >(2) Living in the household of Ann (Behymer) Fitzpatrick when the 1850 > >census was enumerated were: Benjamin Franklin Fitzpatrick, b. circa 1826 > >and > >Eveline Fitzpatrick, b. circa 1833. I had assumed that these were Ann's > >children, but if Ann's husband, James Fitzpatrick, died in 1824, then that > >doesn't add up. Any thoughts on this? > > > >John Charles Tippet > >johntippet@home.com > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com >
I don't know where the Nancy FITZPATRICK fits in that you are referring to. Where did you get the birth date? The only two FITZPATRICK'S that were in Clermont Co. at that time were my James, and Henry who removed to Lawrence Co. Indiana. I can't seem to fit her in w/ either of them. Henry's children get a little more vague every time I look at them. You know how it goes; you look for information, write it down, and then when it isn't your direct line ancestor it goes in a separate folder. I must admit however that you've done a VERY good job at keeping them ALL straight. Anyway, I've always shown James who died in 1824 as a son of Henry, but after reviewing my files I find information from Paul W. Fitzpatrick at 1111 Paradise Ct. Greenwood, In. which doesn't show him. I was corresponding w/ him about 10-15 years ago. We didn't discuss it but maybe I need to bring that to his attention. Then, to make matters even more confusing I found a couple other documents on Ann BEYMER FITZPATRICK which go along w/ her bounty land application, separate from the ones I just sent. I'll copy those for you too. They don't really tell us anything more, but it does say that James had a brother William who went to Port Gibson after his death. Well, that's a new one. Neither Paul FITZPATRICK, nor I had him listed. Then, there's another document which talks about the settling of Henry FITZPATRICK'S estate, and it talks about James' heirs. It doesn't mention them by name however. Whew!!! Also "Clermont County Ohio Death Index, 1856-1908" by Aileen Witt shows a Nancy BEHYMER, age 60yrs, DOD: 12 Aug 1874, Bk. D-1 Pg. 112, and Nancy BEHYMER, age 71yrs, DOD: 14 Oct 1883, Bk. D-3 Pg. 16. As far as Ann BEHYMER's children, I'm at a loss. One suggestion is a guardianship that may have been instigated in Lawrence Co. after James died. I think I have a reference to that in my notes but I need to look. W/ all of us going in separate directions it's hard to know if I've just given you information that you've already thought about or not. Have you checked the 1860 census for Ann? I don't show her but I may not have gone through the complete county like I did for other years. I'll be in touch. >From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@home.com> >To: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> >Subject: More Fitzpatrick Questions >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:24:51 -0800 > >Karen: > >Here are a couple more Fitzpatrick "loose ends" in my database. Perhaps, >you can help me out here. > >(1) Nancy Fitzpatrick, b. 14 Feb 1814, married Daniel Behymer on 29 Oct >1835 >in Clermont County, OH. Do you know who Nancy's parents were? > >(2) Living in the household of Ann (Behymer) Fitzpatrick when the 1850 >census was enumerated were: Benjamin Franklin Fitzpatrick, b. circa 1826 >and >Eveline Fitzpatrick, b. circa 1833. I had assumed that these were Ann's >children, but if Ann's husband, James Fitzpatrick, died in 1824, then that >doesn't add up. Any thoughts on this? > >John Charles Tippet >johntippet@home.com > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Herman; Wanted to set some of this Thompson family down in some form, as you know My Alexander Thompson came from Maine, early 1800's to Clermont, after getting into the search, his sister Abigail Thomspon must have come to the area earlier as she d. in Lindale 1839 her first husband was named Ebenezer COOMBS, and then she married Samuel Tebbetts esq. he also d. in Lindale, I am not sure if Coombs d. in Oh. or Me. Andrew Coombs was one of her sons, he was a farmer and merchant in Lindale William Coombs was a Grandson also Rev Andrew Hubbard. Alex son Elisha Baker Thompson, Bethel Oh. daughter Charlotte Welch Thomspon m. Ezekiel Edwin Turner, one of their dau. Lucy Ann Turner m. Alonzo Wood- (this is the step into Walter Wood on the list ) Adeline Donahm Thompson m. Samuel Cook, so a lot of the Cooks come in here. Just like the Enos Smiths (Debbie line) Priscilla Thompson d. in New Richmond O. April4, 1819, her busband Hugh Mulloy d. 1845 inNew Richmond also. a dau. Priscilla Mulloy (Ring) after several tradigies married Rev. Daniel Parker,this the tie to Parker Acadmey. I still have a awful lot to learn, and search. but as I said I was suprised at so many being related, I know Dorothy (like my boat) is in on the Thompson line also comments and corrections are so welcome, Warrene
Hermon, Yesterday you wrote: > I'm still writing daily on OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com as I did on the old > Ohio-Clermont on Prodigy.com 1992-95. Is this Ohio-Clermont information that you wrote archived? Regards, Ed in CA researching: John and Rebecca CLARKE HERRON, Children: David, James, John, Andrew, William, Joseph, Anna, and Rebecca
Holly Simmons Lundberg,former Prodigy genie,writes asking several quesstions, and I doubt if I have the Hitch answers. 1st,Holly,Sadbury Quaker meeting general area for the Finley McGrew's,if not Simmons, and Hatton's pre mid Pa, thought Prodigy's Russell McGrew abt 1993. North of Gettysburg,now Adams Co,was York Co, mid s Pa is York Springs, Pa, which,1750's had the 1st Episcopal church that far west,followed by York and Carlisle. And, nearby,and one of the 4 Quaker meetings of old York-Adams Co, was the Huntington Quaker Meeting. It struck me that a Quaker-Episcoppal neighborhood elsewhere in e Pa would not be very pro Rev War,and researching that theory,I found Rev Daniel Barton arrested,and depoerted 'for conspiring to destroy Pa colony munitions" . Later research hinted these munitions were being stored in one of his 3 churches-at York,Pa. and the incident at the time the British military took Philadelphia, and our own CONGESS moved to York.[ The British military also held NEW YORK CITY, mid 1776-Nov 1783, sooo the John Simmons Inn there was in Loyalist area.] The Hatton-Hattan -Hutton RESEARCHERS have found in Penn Archives 3rd,or 5th series, a York Co,Pa militia list that included what I say is our Adam Simmons, and his known York Spings-Huntington Twnsp NEIUGHBORS, and the date was [?] 1778, and somebody please post same to Holly. Benj Ely was b 1805,and came with Samuel and Rachel Leeds Ely, [m 1804] from on-shore Atlantic City,NJ,wth colony,1806, and Benjamin was the deaf Bantam Oh weaver,and merchant, and Mry Hitch's wedding dress came from 1 of his Cincinnati wholesalers. Thomas and Jane Smullins Hitch,were from very s Eastern Shore of Md, and,after a few years with his brother at Falmouth,Ky,in 1811 Thomas settled across the road from Carmel churchyard- Laurel cemetary of Simmons burial fame. John and Nancy lived there,ten moved a mile west of me ,to the farm "Bantam Stock farm" in the sw corner of the new Rt 125-South Bantam Rd interchange, and [?] just behind,or n of Old Bethel Methodist a mile north are Hitch graves,and Benj Ely,and his 3 wifes name Mary Mary Hitch Ely,Mary Sheldon Tice Ely and Mary Donham ely,of Jonathan S of Nathanial and his 2nd. Chuch now sits within East Fork State Park a mile north of Lake Harsha. carlely@juno.com once headed the group that tries to keep the old church painted and roofed. It should be noted that,1811, a colony from Adam Simmons Clermont,Oh neighborhood migrated to John Simmons Washington Co,Ind neighborhood. Colglazier,Gaskins,Fee,Purkizer are a portion of that roster. Old Thomas Hitch buried no 1,Jane Smullins,in Laurel,and remarried the widow Bainum, and as a very aged man,rode horseback to see the new baby,my grandmother,Ruie Ely. 1855 era. The photographer said the day was 2 cloudy to attemt a 5 generation photo,without the baby moving. Mary Hitch Ely likely died at-near the Bantam,Oh general store of her husband. She married young [16?] and her 1st,my great grandfather,John Francis Marion Ely, was born tiny,and pre-mature. [A teacup would fit over his head]. He was never of perfect health,though died in this house in his 70's. 1907 era.