Just passing this old query on that may be of some help to someone. These are not my families. Posted by Rick Fuller <RAF562@aol.com> on Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Surname: Lakin, Slater, Simmons, Hatton, Barshear, Jones, Kelch, Sargent, Fort, McIlvain Joseph Lakin was born in Montgomery County, Maryland in 1769. He moved to Washington Co. (Greene after 1796) Penna., where he married Mary Slater ca. 1789. Mary was born in Ireland: she bore hime five children before she died ca. 1800. Joseph lived for a brief time in Bracken Co. Ky. (resident there 1797), then moved on to Clermont Co. Ohio. He married second Margaret Summons in Bracken Co. on 20 March 1802. She was the Mother of an additional eight (some say nine) children. Joseph was a member of the Grand Jury for Clermont Co. for the Sept 1806 term. He was a justice of the peace and was frequently mentioned in the old court records of Clermont Co. He remained there until after 1830, moving finally to Eagletown, Hamilton Co., Indiana, were he died in 1838. Margaret Simmons was born in York Co., Penna. on 25 Sept 1780, the daughter of Adam Simmons (1747-1827) and Mary Hatton (1753-1831) Adam served in the Revolution from Chester Co., Penna. Two of her sisters married sons of Joseph Lakin by his first wife. Margaret died at Eagletown in 1850. Children by Mary Slater: Thomas Lakin (1790-1874) m. Sarah Simmons; F. Webb Benjamin Lakin (1792-1880) m. Elizabeth Simmons Eleanor Lakin John Lakin (1797- ) m. Margaret Barshear James Likin (ca1798- ) m. Sarah Jones Children by Margaret Simmons: Adam Simmons Lakin (ca1803- ) Joseph Lakin Mary Lakin poss m. John Kelch Rachel Lakin (1810- ) d. single William H. Lakin (1814-1900) m. l. sARGENT Wesley S. Lakin (1820-p1900) m. Del Fort Margaret Lakin Elizabeth Lakin (1824- ) m Saml. McIlvain

Mary, The following info is from LDS film # 317339 Clermont County Marriages from 1800-1845. This is known to not be a complete and inclusive collection. I have copies of pages which had entries I was searching for, so for some of the entries I have shown the additional information which was on the Film, for the others I have listed a possible date based on the dates on the pages I have. The index has: pages 105 and 64 (Vail,Isiah - Mrs. Nancy Towsley Jan 17, 1820 by J. Voris, J.P.) page 27(Vail, Isiah - Rebecca Ketcham Dec 2 1824 by Zebina Williams J.P.) male Vales - female Cummins page 58 abt 1828 1821 - 1834 female Vail - male Baker page 8 abt. 1822 1821 - 1834 female Vail - male Magill page 25 abt 1824 1821 - 1834 page 65( Davis, Mathew - Ruhame Vail April 23,1829 by Moses Elstun, J.P.) no marriages for Vails in Index 1835-1845 By the way, I did not find the attachment, so I don't know if these are your line or not. I do hope this helps. Bev in sunny, cold MN Silvadv1@aol.com wrote: > Hi Bev: I was going through the rootsweb list for Clermont, Ohio when I saw > your entry on Clermont marriages. I am descended from Samuel Vail, of > Clermont, OH and his son Joel, Sr. and I am just now learning how to and > trying to do family tree research. Our line stems from Jeremiah, down > through Joel, Sr., to Joel Jr., (both of Clermont, OH), to Russell Earl, to > Russell Gloyd, my father, both of Indiana. I am trying to learn the fate of > all of the children of Joel, Sr. and Rebecca Carter, his wife. They died > within one year of another and left many children, to whom I am in some way, > however distant, related. Please let me know if you have any information. > My line is attached. > > Mary Vail Silva

Does anyone have access to the 1870 Clermont County Census? I am looking for Daniel KIRGAN and his wife Martha Ann (Lewis) KIRGAN. She died in Monroe Twp. in 1878. Thanks for any help. Eileen Blair

Shows my Bethel,Tate Township, mid eastern Clermont Co,Oh and maps It's just west of Hamersville,and Clark township,Brown Co,Oh and the shopping area for s w Pike township,and nw Lewis township,Brown Co.

Guess it would be more proper to say that,in 1821, when they married, Hannah Simpson,bride,and parents ,the John Simpson,Jr's lived in an old brick Thomas Page built, and that brick burned down,with multiple loss of life later [but I have a pacture of it] and many years later,Don Lancaster moved into,and remodeled the present house standing on the location of the Simpson-Page house. I can only guess the wedding took place there with Jesse Root Grant. JRG would,1850 be a leader of the Bethel Methodists. REV Moses Edwards,was Baptist,from Lyon's Farm,NJ .Nesamminy Presbyterian in Bucks Coi,Pa has Simpson and Medary records. Gov Sam Medary,whose 1st Ohio PAPERS WERE THE BETHEL JOURNL,AND CLERMONT SUN ,pre Columbus papers, said he wenr to elementary school in e Pa with Hannah Simpson ,mother of Pres-gen U.Simpson Grant. . Samuel Medary wrote he went to Quaker school in e Pa . Gen US GRANT, had anti-war newspaperman Gov Sam Medary jailed in the civil war for anti-war talk. 'Medary's" supermarket in your Williamsburg,Oh is from a brother of Gov Sam Medary. Another Medary brother's widow lived at n e corner of Plane and Union, Bethel,when her daughter,1857, married Oliver Grant, from s e corner of Plane and Charity, and moved to very ne ILL to the Grant leather store. Galena,Ill. [have their pictures]. There is a biography on Gov Sam Medary,once Gov OF Bloddy Kansas Territory,anf 1857,and then Minn Territory, and for many year,Ohio State PRINTER,and a power behind Ohio statehouse politics. Hannah Simpson' Grant's nephew ,Robert Bellville Simpson maried my Dad's Fagaly unt On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:45:10 -0500 Carl E Ely <carlely@juno.com> writes: > So you're saying that President Grants's parents were married in a > house that burned but sets on the land where Don Lancaster now > lives? > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:23:15 -0500 HERMON B FAGLEY > <hermfagley@juno.com> writes: > > Don Lancaster,on s Surgartree lives where the Simpson house burnt > > down. > > Thomas Page built it,and sold it,and 400 a to Simpson. Page also > > bought from > > Wm Simonds,the farm where Cracker and Dugie drown,and then went to > > > Pt Pleasant,and started a tannery,hiring Grant,Sr. > > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:56:14 -0500 Carl E Ely <carlely@juno.com> > > writes: > > > Which house are you referring to as where Grants parents were > > > married? The old O.T. Brown house next to Marty Robinson? The > > > tombstone that was vandalized was that of Gen. Richard Collins > > > across the drive from Cap't. Johnson. Johnson's was too big to > > > upset. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:24:52 -0500 HERMON B FAGLEY > > > <hermfagley@juno.com> writes: > > > > Thanks to modern Dr's,and medicine, I can , and am,hiking the > > > south > > > > birm > > > > of RT 125 [Ohio Pike-Beechmont Ave] near my home between > Bethel > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Bantam. And,at 1\2 mile east,and 1\2 mile west,I'm seeing 2 > > early > > > > farm homes, > > > > and seeing the out-lines of the James Shotwell- [?]Thomas > > Shelton > > > > JP-Elder- > > > > OT Brown stagecoach inn-farm house. And,I may soon come into > > > > view,down > > > > Sugartree,of the 1810 era Michael Strickland farmhouse [and > area > > > > > of > > > > his blacksmith > > > > shop?] > > > > I'm puzzling over 2 features of the frame 2 story Cape Cod of > > > > [?Jesse Justice?] , > > > > Robert Justice, Wm Penn Justice, and,in my memory,the Roger > > Queal > > > > > > > family. [estate?] > > > > 1st, it's angled with the highway. Did the road,1820 era, > follow > > a > > > > > > > differnt path. 2nd,it > > > > has far too many windows for a very,very old house,, though > > I've > > > > been told the floor joist are round,not sawed. > > > > Rev Jesse Justice built cabin[s] near the spring in the back > > yard > > > in > > > > 1805, when > > > > he 1st purchased 540 acres the same day as Thomas Page,George > > > > Swing,and Michael > > > > Strickland. NJ Methodists. Page's 400 acres just south > became > > > > > > John Simpson Jr's in 1818, > > > > and the old brick Page built burnt down, 1900 era,with > > > > multiple loss of life. President Grant's parents were married > in > > > > > it > > > > in 1821,by Rev Moses > > > > Edwards,of next farm south,and,once,Lyon's Farm,NJ. > > > > As I walk west, I'm passing Butch Loudoun's, which was given > to > > > > Miami U by > > > > Hubert and Rosalie Harris Douglass. It was Ed and Anabelle > > Justice > > > > > > > Harris's > > > > when I was a kid,and earlier Cliff Justice,and built[?] by > the > > > > Johnson's who > > > > went to Tell City,Indiana,and headed the National Civil War > > > Vetran's > > > > Group, the > > > > "Grand Army of the Republic" . Some kid paid for vandelizing > > > > Johnson's tall > > > > spire in the Old Bethel cemetary ,with critical injuries from > > the > > > > tombstone > > > > falling on him. It's the typical brick built here 1810-50's. > 2 > > > > > > stories. Plain front. > > > > Central door on 1st floor,and 2 windows each side. 5 windows > > wide > > > > > > > across the 2nd story > > > > a few are 3,or 7,but 5 is most common. No windows on the > narrow > > > > ends,for it's 1 room wide,and fireplaces on each end. > Kitchen > > > wing > > > > of 1 1\2 stories,with a little stairway,up to the low 'Hired > > man's > > > > > > > room " > > > > above the kitchen,that did "not" open onto the rest of the > 2nd > > > > floor,and the daughter's > > > > rooms,til Rosalie made an opening. Brick,and sometimes of > > frame, > > > > perhaps > > > > only the log cabin was more common in Clermont. > > > > Indeed,there was a similar brick exactly here,til my > > grandparents > > > > tore it > > > > down in 1903,to build this huge old frame. But,they saved > > > everying > > > > from the > > > > old brick,and used it building this house. Brick,doors, > > woodwork > > > > > > > are all here,just not on the > > > > ground floor. A high foundation,and 11 brick flues used mist > of > > > the > > > > brick,and they hid > > > > the last bit in the walls. This huge,seedy old frame swallowed > > > > that > > > > 1830's bricks. Even nails > > > > The aged large, hammered square nails from the 1830's were > > > reused > > > > in this 1903 house. > > > > But Savil Justice married his Blackman twin in 1824,and 1st > > moved > > > > her into a log cabin here. > > > > She was 16,like my Mary Hitch Ely,and my Mary Ann Fox Fagaly, > > and > > > my > > > > -whoever. > > > > And her twin m Wesley McClain, and ran the Nicholsville store. > > > > > Once,for many,many > > > > years,their ancestors had been Bargaintown,NJ neighbors.

Listers; Got an Email from David, who found the Rootsweb Gen connect boards and together we felt others may be interested in looking for information the URL is http://genconnect.rootsweb.com there is a Ohio Section called Ohio Visitor Center check it out

The Clermont Co. Genealogical Society has a web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohclecgs Among other things, the site has information on how to join the Society and the books they have for sale.

Listers : this morning I wanted to look something up from the archives, just wanted to share especially to new members there are lots of information saved on rootsweb from this list, a lot of important items, search through it you may find info you didn't have, I did. It is on ROOTSWEB MAILING LISTS INTERACTIVE SEARCH, years 2000,1999, 1998, almost 5000 individual messages," lots of Herman too, so you learn about the county" try it. Warrene

You've been busy! I haven't actually had time to absorb the WOOD information as of yet, but I'll work on it. Did you copy the Clermont List? That would certainly be useful for other WOOD researchers, or are you a member of the Clermont List? Sometimes it's hard to tell. Most of us subscribe to county lists, and surname lists, it's hard to tell how people get in touch w/ us. Anyway, I checked the 1900 census for Clermont Co. Ohio, Tate twsp. only. This may help in working towards a solution on our William FITZPATRICK. The enumeration was done 05 Jun 1900 Head of household was John FITZPATRICK Born Apr 1820 80y B. Ohio, Father born Ky, Mother born Ohio Emma - Dau. Born Mar 1958, 43y Ben F. - Son Born Jan 1860 40y Minnie L. - Dau. Born Mar 1868? 35y Oliver L. - Son Born Jul 1969 32y William H. - Brother - Born Jun 1818 82y This John and William appear to be the sons of Solomon FITZPATRICK. Solomon was the son of Henry FITZPATRICK, brother to our James FITZPATRICK. I'll keep looking, and thinking! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Alma Smith and Aileen Whitt have done many many books over the past 20 years - am sure a big public library would have many of them - if not - join the Gen Soc and buy the books from them - Read them and then donate to your local library! Virginia crystal Karen J. Erickson wrote: > Does anyone show any additional books w/ printed information necessary for > Clermont County research? Is the Clermont Genealogical Society working on > any additional publications? > > 1. Monument Inscriptions prior to 1900 in Clermont Co. Ohio > > 2. Historical Souvenirs of Clermont Co., Containing Encyclopedic > Directory & History of Clermont Co., Thirey & Mitchel, 1902, and Atlas of > Clermont Co., Labe & Gordon, 1891, and A Pioneer Profile - Early Days of > Clermont Co, Robert K. Slade, 1964, Printed by Unigraphic Inc., 1977. > > 3. History of Clermont County, 1880, reproduced by Unigraphic Inc., 1973. > > 4. Marriage Records, Clermont Co. 1800-1850 > > 5. Clermont Co. Deeds and Mortgages, 1791-1830, An Index, by Alma Smith > > 6. Index to History of Clermont Co. 1795-1880 > > 7. Clermont Co. Land Records, 1787-1812, Survey, Patents, Deeds & Mortgages > with Index of grantors and grantees by Alma Smith > > 8. Clermont Co. Naturalizations, an Index, 1811-1929, by Aileen Whitt > > 9. Clermont Co. Revolutionary War Veterans, Vol. I & Vol. II, by Aileen > Whitt. > > 10. Clermont Co. Wills, Estates, & Guardianships, an Index, 1800-1900, Vol. > I & Vol. II, by Aileen Whitt. > > 11. Clermont Co. Deaths, an Index, 1856-1908, by Aileen Whitt. > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Cincinnati's called the "City of Seven Hills". We have places named Mt Healthy, Mt Zion,Mt Pleasant, MT HOLLY, Back bone hill;Bald point hill, etc. etc SW ohio was leveled by glaciers. About the area west of RT 41,in Adams Co,Oh. Any hills ,mountians,or nobs were leveled,and we are roughly a tableland. A PLATEAU. But that was so long ago, we have eroded deep valleys along the creeks and Ohio River. The latter is the deepest valley, with,on average the steepest hills, and the southen reaches of creeks emptying into it. Gradually,the valleys of the creeks become shallower,and shallower. Say they had 400 foot valleys vear the river,and 40 foot valley's in their headwaters. And the hillsides go from very steep,to farmable on the headwaters. Oh,the 1850 era poor German immigration farmed,or planted vineyards on very steep slopes along the river. From the same valley,to the same tableland,but a mile apart may be hills [roads] called Short Hill and Gee Hill,etc. Just different routes up the hill. At no place can you view mountians, but from the valley's,you see the steep hills,and from the edge of the tableland, you view a valley. A home advertized having a view,is looking down at a valley,or in the valley,looking at the hillsides. No mountians. No nobs. Roughly, west of Cincinnati-Columbus-Cleveland was covered by glacier. East of that line may be small mountians,or much more rolling land. West is mostly fields in grain; east is mostly pastures,and woods,and strip coal mines,.etc ,etc ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Thanks,John. Knew you had it all. And,as I read,I think another family tradition came crashing down. Ruie Ely Brown wrote that a 5 generaltion picture was considered of her,as a baby, and Thomas Hitch the eldest. 1855-60 here. Photographer said the day too cloudy. Bantam photographer? But,she was the 5th,or baby generation. Any knowledge of the event was told her. Certainly there were group civil war photo's. At the very least,I have a photo of a French-surname- vet buried in Bethel by his grandmother. Who was also my grandfather Fagaly's grandmother. I suppose same French as French Park,Lebanon,Oh She was Sarah ,of Isaac,Phillips m 1814 David,of Charles Fox, about King's Island Park .He died 1830's,at Mason,or Cincinnati? She died years later,at Bethel at her gdau,Sally White's. Have their bibles On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:02:36 -0500 John Emmitt <jwemmitt@mindspring.com> writes: > Hi Herman: You asked the question about when photography was > possible. I > understand Photography > was invented by a Frenchman by name of Lagueure in 1833. The > process was > commonly called Daggertype. It started about 1840 in the USA. The > image > was on a silver plated copper sheet. > The image was small usually no larger than 3"x4". The process used > mercury > a poison, if invented today the enviromental people would probably > not > allow the process to be used. The exposure required several > minutes, was > finely detailed, was a negative image that gave the illusion of > positive, > the image was always reversed left to right since it was made in the > camera > without benefit of prisms or mirrors. The image required a frame > with > raised glass to protect the delicate image. About 1852 a process > called > Ambrotype came out. It was a bleached image on glass > that was reversed and backed up by black paint, black velvet or just > black > paper( no longer was the image reversed). They were a little larger > and > not as delicate. About 1852 the tintype was invented just in time > for the > Civil War and for the first time a soldier could insert his picture > of > himself in uniform in an envelope to mail home. It was a bleached > image on > a black painted piece of sheet iron (no tin), also reversed left to > right, > sometimes and more correctly called Ferrotype. about the same time > the wet > plate process was invented allowing large quality photos to be taken > of the > Civil War, also a first time this was possible in a war. The > darkroom had > to be portable and taken along since the glass plate had to be > coated and > exposed while still wet. Dry plate came a little later and > eventually film > was developed. About 1895 amateurs could take snapshots on roll . > film. > > The Daggertype type was too expensive for the average working man. > It cost > a weeks wages $5.00 at that time. The tintype however was very > affordable > it cost as little as 1 cent for a small one. Sometimes tintypes > are > still made at fairs and carnivals as a novelty. May cost a dollar > or more > today. > > Hope this helps John >

Still looking for info on the Keyt family. John Keyt: b. 1755 NJ, d. 1834 IN. m.Elizabeth Carter (who were her parents and when and where was she born and died?) They had 9 children: Maryan, Lewis Hiram, Hosea, Nathan, Jesse, Joel, Ichabod, Hiram and Elma. I have info on all but these 2: Joel Keyt b. abt 1800 and Ichabod Keyt: b. abt 1805. It's possible they died in Clermont Co. where all the children were born, as all but Nathan moved to Washington Co.IN and showed up in at least 1 census somewhere. Joel and Ichabod just disappeared! Anyone with any ideas? Twylah mailto:twylee@netshel.net

Loretta: Sorry, I can't help on this one. Maybe Karen Erickson, who has done a lot of research on the Fitzpatricks, can help. John Charles Tippet johntippet@home.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta Teeters" <loretta@magiclink.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: Re: More Fitzpatrick Questions > Maybe you can help solve a mystery of mine. I have an Eliza married to > Abram/Abraham Gaskins ca 1841. I do not have a last name for her as I have > not yet found the marriage record. They lived in Clermont County. Strange > thing is that even though her husband was alive at the time of her death, > her death was reported by William Fitzpatrick. I thought that perhaps he was > a brother and her maiden name was Fitzpatrick, but have not been able to > confirm this at all. She was born abt 1820 according to the 1860 census. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@home.com> > To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: More Fitzpatrick Questions > > > > Karen: > > > > Nancy Fitzpatrick married Daniel Behymer on 29 Oct 1835 per the marriage > > records of Clermont County, OH. Daniel and Nancy are buried in the > Behymer > > Private Cemetery on Ten Mile Road, Pierce Twp, Clermont County, OH per > > "Monument Inscriptions Prior to 1900 from Cemeteries in Clermont County, > > Ohio" published by the DAR ladies in 1948. Her inscription reads: Nancy > > Behymer, b. 14 Feb 1814; d. 12 Aug 1874. > > > > Other early Fitzpatricks married in Clermont County, OH were: > > > > William P Fitspatrick to Abigail Fletcher, 5 Jul 1829 > > Elizabeth Fitzpatrick to James Arthur, 11 Apr 1844 > > John Fitzpatrick to Sarah Tatman, 18 Apr 1847 > > William B Fitzpatrick to Nancy West, 11 Apr 1844 > > Zachariach Fitzpatrick to Deanna Tatman, 2 Dec 1848 > > > > Do you know who the parents were of any of the above? > > > > John Charles Tippet > > johntippet@home.com > > > > P.S. Thanking you in advance for the copies you are sending my way! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> > > To: <johntippet@home.com> > > Cc: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:32 AM > > Subject: Re: More Fitzpatrick Questions > > > > > > > I don't know where the Nancy FITZPATRICK fits in that you are referring > > to. > > > Where did you get the birth date? The only two FITZPATRICK'S that were > in > > > Clermont Co. at that time were my James, and Henry who removed to > Lawrence > > > Co. Indiana. I can't seem to fit her in w/ either of them. > > > > > > Henry's children get a little more vague every time I look at them. You > > know > > > how it goes; you look for information, write it down, and then when it > > isn't > > > your direct line ancestor it goes in a separate folder. I must admit > > however > > > that you've done a VERY good job at keeping them ALL straight. > > > > > > Anyway, I've always shown James who died in 1824 as a son of Henry, but > > > after reviewing my files I find information from Paul W. Fitzpatrick at > > 1111 > > > Paradise Ct. Greenwood, In. which doesn't show him. I was corresponding > w/ > > > him about 10-15 years ago. We didn't discuss it but maybe I need to > bring > > > that to his attention. > > > > > > Then, to make matters even more confusing I found a couple other > documents > > > on Ann BEYMER FITZPATRICK which go along w/ her bounty land application, > > > separate from the ones I just sent. I'll copy those for you too. They > > don't > > > really tell us anything more, but it does say that James had a brother > > > William who went to Port Gibson after his death. Well, that's a new one. > > > Neither Paul FITZPATRICK, nor I had him listed. > > > > > > Then, there's another document which talks about the settling of Henry > > > FITZPATRICK'S estate, and it talks about James' heirs. It doesn't > mention > > > them by name however. Whew!!! > > > > > > Also "Clermont County Ohio Death Index, 1856-1908" by Aileen Witt shows > a > > > Nancy BEHYMER, age 60yrs, DOD: 12 Aug 1874, Bk. D-1 Pg. 112, and Nancy > > > BEHYMER, age 71yrs, DOD: 14 Oct 1883, Bk. D-3 Pg. 16. > > > > > > As far as Ann BEHYMER's children, I'm at a loss. One suggestion is a > > > guardianship that may have been instigated in Lawrence Co. after James > > died. > > > I think I have a reference to that in my notes but I need to look. > > > > > > W/ all of us going in separate directions it's hard to know if I've just > > > given you information that you've already thought about or not. Have you > > > checked the 1860 census for Ann? I don't show her but I may not have > gone > > > through the complete county like I did for other years. > > > > > > I'll be in touch. > > > > > > >From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@home.com> > > > >To: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> > > > >Subject: More Fitzpatrick Questions > > > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:24:51 -0800 > > > > > > > >Karen: > > > > > > > >Here are a couple more Fitzpatrick "loose ends" in my database. > Perhaps, > > > >you can help me out here. > > > > > > > >(1) Nancy Fitzpatrick, b. 14 Feb 1814, married Daniel Behymer on 29 Oct > > > >1835 > > > >in Clermont County, OH. Do you know who Nancy's parents were? > > > > > > > >(2) Living in the household of Ann (Behymer) Fitzpatrick when the 1850 > > > >census was enumerated were: Benjamin Franklin Fitzpatrick, b. circa > 1826 > > > >and > > > >Eveline Fitzpatrick, b. circa 1833. I had assumed that these were > Ann's > > > >children, but if Ann's husband, James Fitzpatrick, died in 1824, then > > that > > > >doesn't add up. Any thoughts on this? > > > > > > > >John Charles Tippet > > > >johntippet@home.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >

Can you tell me something about Richard DISNEY and his collection of photos that are shown in the "Memory Lane" section of the Clermont Courier? _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Thanks to modern Dr's,and medicine, I can , and am,hiking the south birm of RT 125 [Ohio Pike-Beechmont Ave] near my home between Bethel and Bantam. And,at 1\2 mile east,and 1\2 mile west,I'm seeing 2 early farm homes, and seeing the out-lines of the James Shotwell- [?]Thomas Shelton JP-Elder- OT Brown stagecoach inn-farm house. And,I may soon come into view,down Sugartree,of the 1810 era Michael Strickland farmhouse [and area of his blacksmith shop?] I'm puzzling over 2 features of the frame 2 story Cape Cod of [?Jesse Justice?] , Robert Justice, Wm Penn Justice, and,in my memory,the Roger Queal family. [estate?] 1st, it's angled with the highway. Did the road,1820 era, follow a differnt path. 2nd,it has far too many windows for a very,very old house,, though I've been told the floor joist are round,not sawed. Rev Jesse Justice built cabin[s] near the spring in the back yard in 1805, when he 1st purchased 540 acres the same day as Thomas Page,George Swing,and Michael Strickland. NJ Methodists. Page's 400 acres just south became John Simpson Jr's in 1818, and the old brick Page built burnt down, 1900 era,with multiple loss of life. President Grant's parents were married in it in 1821,by Rev Moses Edwards,of next farm south,and,once,Lyon's Farm,NJ. As I walk west, I'm passing Butch Loudoun's, which was given to Miami U by Hubert and Rosalie Harris Douglass. It was Ed and Anabelle Justice Harris's when I was a kid,and earlier Cliff Justice,and built[?] by the Johnson's who went to Tell City,Indiana,and headed the National Civil War Vetran's Group, the "Grand Army of the Republic" . Some kid paid for vandelizing Johnson's tall spire in the Old Bethel cemetary ,with critical injuries from the tombstone falling on him. It's the typical brick built here 1810-50's. 2 stories. Plain front. Central door on 1st floor,and 2 windows each side. 5 windows wide across the 2nd story a few are 3,or 7,but 5 is most common. No windows on the narrow ends,for it's 1 room wide,and fireplaces on each end. Kitchen wing of 1 1\2 stories,with a little stairway,up to the low 'Hired man's room " above the kitchen,that did "not" open onto the rest of the 2nd floor,and the daughter's rooms,til Rosalie made an opening. Brick,and sometimes of frame, perhaps only the log cabin was more common in Clermont. Indeed,there was a similar brick exactly here,til my grandparents tore it down in 1903,to build this huge old frame. But,they saved everying from the old brick,and used it building this house. Brick,doors, woodwork are all here,just not on the ground floor. A high foundation,and 11 brick flues used mist of the brick,and they hid the last bit in the walls. This huge,seedy old frame swallowed that 1830's bricks. Even nails The aged large, hammered square nails from the 1830's were reused in this 1903 house. But Savil Justice married his Blackman twin in 1824,and 1st moved her into a log cabin here. She was 16,like my Mary Hitch Ely,and my Mary Ann Fox Fagaly, and my -whoever. And her twin m Wesley McClain, and ran the Nicholsville store. Once,for many,many years,their ancestors had been Bargaintown,NJ neighbors.

Hello, I am seeking information about Conrad TRAUTH. He is listed in "Clermont County, Ohio Naturalization 1811-1929", by Aileen Whitt. Page 29 refers to his letter of intent to naturalize, Sept 1854. Ms Whitt showed the document location as MM 10-1260-307, which is supposedly in Miscellaneous Microfilm, Probate Office. I returned to the book to check the reference number after I failed in my initial attempt to locate the document. I contacted the Probate Court and requested a copy of the document. The lady in the office said she could not find it. I am sure she looked diligently. She went beyond the call of duty and found his second paper showing S. Conrad TRAUTH's citizenship in 1866. But, I suppose I am greedy! Some letters of intent show additional information such as date/place of birth and date/port of arrival. I requested the Probate microfilm from the Family History Center for the appropriate time period. I figured I could spend more time than the lady in the probate office and search all entries. It contained no naturalization information. I do not know if this is my Samuel Conrad TRAUTH. The citizenship paper stating S. Conrad TRAUTH certainly has my attention. I have another indicator which points to his residency in New Richmond in the early to mid-1860's. Any advice on how I might find the letter of intend is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your efforts. --Jack Trauth

It's been a while since I placed a message about this family so I thought I'd try again Looking for info on the family of Esau Daly Rice b 1816 and Sarah A. Emmons Rice b 1818 living in Tate Twp Clermont Co., OH from about 1842 until 1867. Their children were all born in Tate Twp, two of their children were married in Clermont Co. Esau and Sarah were married 29 Aug 1839, location unknown. Esau was a blacksmith. They are in the 1850 and 1860 census. Children were-- Benjamin Frances b 1842 Ulysses Augustus b 1843 m Delilah Jane Wells 1862 both from Mt. Olive, Clermont Co., OH Josephine Elizabeth b 1844 m William P. Joslin 1864 in Clermont Co., OH Asbury Henry b 1847 Eliza Ann b 1855 Would like to determine if Esau was a son of Joseph Rice and Rebbeca Leach of Tyler Co., VA and determine the parents of Sarah who was born in OH. I haven't found a record of the marriage of Esau and Sarah. I haven't found a record of land ownership but would like to determine specifically where they lived in Tate Twp. They were there for 25 years, there must be some record in addition to the census. The entire family left OH in June of 1867 and went to IA. There probably is no further record of them in OH after that date. In addition to a response to Rootsweb please also e-mail me direct at mjrice+AEA-dakotacom.net . Thanks for any information, Marion Rice

Maybe you can help solve a mystery of mine. I have an Eliza married to Abram/Abraham Gaskins ca 1841. I do not have a last name for her as I have not yet found the marriage record. They lived in Clermont County. Strange thing is that even though her husband was alive at the time of her death, her death was reported by William Fitzpatrick. I thought that perhaps he was a brother and her maiden name was Fitzpatrick, but have not been able to confirm this at all. She was born abt 1820 according to the 1860 census. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@home.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Re: More Fitzpatrick Questions > Karen: > > Nancy Fitzpatrick married Daniel Behymer on 29 Oct 1835 per the marriage > records of Clermont County, OH. Daniel and Nancy are buried in the Behymer > Private Cemetery on Ten Mile Road, Pierce Twp, Clermont County, OH per > "Monument Inscriptions Prior to 1900 from Cemeteries in Clermont County, > Ohio" published by the DAR ladies in 1948. Her inscription reads: Nancy > Behymer, b. 14 Feb 1814; d. 12 Aug 1874. > > Other early Fitzpatricks married in Clermont County, OH were: > > William P Fitspatrick to Abigail Fletcher, 5 Jul 1829 > Elizabeth Fitzpatrick to James Arthur, 11 Apr 1844 > John Fitzpatrick to Sarah Tatman, 18 Apr 1847 > William B Fitzpatrick to Nancy West, 11 Apr 1844 > Zachariach Fitzpatrick to Deanna Tatman, 2 Dec 1848 > > Do you know who the parents were of any of the above? > > John Charles Tippet > johntippet@home.com > > P.S. Thanking you in advance for the copies you are sending my way! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> > To: <johntippet@home.com> > Cc: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:32 AM > Subject: Re: More Fitzpatrick Questions > > > > I don't know where the Nancy FITZPATRICK fits in that you are referring > to. > > Where did you get the birth date? The only two FITZPATRICK'S that were in > > Clermont Co. at that time were my James, and Henry who removed to Lawrence > > Co. Indiana. I can't seem to fit her in w/ either of them. > > > > Henry's children get a little more vague every time I look at them. You > know > > how it goes; you look for information, write it down, and then when it > isn't > > your direct line ancestor it goes in a separate folder. I must admit > however > > that you've done a VERY good job at keeping them ALL straight. > > > > Anyway, I've always shown James who died in 1824 as a son of Henry, but > > after reviewing my files I find information from Paul W. Fitzpatrick at > 1111 > > Paradise Ct. Greenwood, In. which doesn't show him. I was corresponding w/ > > him about 10-15 years ago. We didn't discuss it but maybe I need to bring > > that to his attention. > > > > Then, to make matters even more confusing I found a couple other documents > > on Ann BEYMER FITZPATRICK which go along w/ her bounty land application, > > separate from the ones I just sent. I'll copy those for you too. They > don't > > really tell us anything more, but it does say that James had a brother > > William who went to Port Gibson after his death. Well, that's a new one. > > Neither Paul FITZPATRICK, nor I had him listed. > > > > Then, there's another document which talks about the settling of Henry > > FITZPATRICK'S estate, and it talks about James' heirs. It doesn't mention > > them by name however. Whew!!! > > > > Also "Clermont County Ohio Death Index, 1856-1908" by Aileen Witt shows a > > Nancy BEHYMER, age 60yrs, DOD: 12 Aug 1874, Bk. D-1 Pg. 112, and Nancy > > BEHYMER, age 71yrs, DOD: 14 Oct 1883, Bk. D-3 Pg. 16. > > > > As far as Ann BEHYMER's children, I'm at a loss. One suggestion is a > > guardianship that may have been instigated in Lawrence Co. after James > died. > > I think I have a reference to that in my notes but I need to look. > > > > W/ all of us going in separate directions it's hard to know if I've just > > given you information that you've already thought about or not. Have you > > checked the 1860 census for Ann? I don't show her but I may not have gone > > through the complete county like I did for other years. > > > > I'll be in touch. > > > > >From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@home.com> > > >To: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> > > >Subject: More Fitzpatrick Questions > > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:24:51 -0800 > > > > > >Karen: > > > > > >Here are a couple more Fitzpatrick "loose ends" in my database. Perhaps, > > >you can help me out here. > > > > > >(1) Nancy Fitzpatrick, b. 14 Feb 1814, married Daniel Behymer on 29 Oct > > >1835 > > >in Clermont County, OH. Do you know who Nancy's parents were? > > > > > >(2) Living in the household of Ann (Behymer) Fitzpatrick when the 1850 > > >census was enumerated were: Benjamin Franklin Fitzpatrick, b. circa 1826 > > >and > > >Eveline Fitzpatrick, b. circa 1833. I had assumed that these were Ann's > > >children, but if Ann's husband, James Fitzpatrick, died in 1824, then > that > > >doesn't add up. Any thoughts on this? > > > > > >John Charles Tippet > > >johntippet@home.com > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

Hermon: Ralph Behymer is the first one mentioned on my web page - in the acknowledgements section, along with several other prominent Behymer researchers. One person who is not mentioned, but will be on the next update, is Rick Phillips, with whom I have had numerous, fruitful brainstorming sessions on the early lines over the last couple of years. Rick has a lot of insight into the early records and has made signficant breakthroughs through his careful analysis of the data. John Charles Tippet johntippet@home.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "HERMON B FAGLEY" <hermfagley@juno.com> To: <johntippet@home.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 1:56 AM Subject: Re: BEHYMER/FITZPATRICK > The namesake,Aaron Sargent was a Baptist Rev of s Bethel,Tate,Clermont > "and" > married to Wm Denham's dau. Wm lived in the Picklesimor ara of Madison > Co,Ky. > Mrs Sargent's uncle,Obed Denham,founded Bethel,1798. b Perth Amboy,NJ. . > i SUPPOSE > ANY Becklehymer web page should mention,at least,Ralph, for all the years > he devoted. > And I don't think he was the Ralph I knew. > One must compare the small bottoms, and the water power, and the 400 > foot hillsides of 10 > Mile Creek that attracted the "miller " Behymer's,with the tablelands > nearby. But Pierce township > is now,nearly all sub-division,and a golf course. Maybe a way to roll > back the clock,and also avoid a trip is with the > 20 year old aerial photos in 'Soil Survey's of Clermont Co,Oh' > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:38:23 -0800 "John Charles Tippet" > <johntippet@home.com> writes: > > Karen: > > > > My web page is at: http://members.home.net/johntippet/ I too have > > corresponded with Ralph Behymer, although somewhat more than 20 > > years ago by > > now. Ralph is in my database, but does not appear on my web page > > because I > > have limited the number of generations that I display to five from > > the > > common ancestor, Elder Johan George Beckelhymer. I am not familiar > > with a > > diary of Lora Behymer Duley. Perhaps you are referring to Aaron > > Sargent > > Behymer's diary. This diary is posted on the scanned images section > > of my > > web page. On page three is the reference to Anna Behymer who > > married "Mr > > Fitzpatrick." Aaron gives Anna's children as: William, Elizabeth, > > Adaline, > > Franklin (evidently Benjamin Franklin) and Eveline. The Behymer - > > France > > line is interesting. Three of the early Behymers of Clermont > > County, Jacob, > > Daniel and Joel, married France sisters: Elizabeth, Mary and Eve, > > respectively. Check out the will of their father, Michael France, > > on my web > > page. It is quite interesting reading as Michael evidently was > > having a > > difficult time "balancing the books" among his three daughters as he > > lay on > > his death bed. I have never actually been to Clermont County, but I > > am > > aware that Ralph Behymer's research materials were donated to the > > library > > there. It is on my list of things to do in the future. > > > > BTW: check out the land transactions section of my web page. There, > > you > > will find, among other families, all the Fitzpatrick land > > transactions from > > 1800 through 1879. There are four deeds listed between James > > Fitzpatrick's > > heirs and Elijah Mattox. I have not actually seen these particular > > deeds > > yet. I only transcribed the entries from the deed index. Now that > > I know > > that this pertains to Ann Behymer, I will order the microfilm from > > my local > > LDS FHC and check them out. > > > > I found it interesting that you had thought about Orange County, IN. > > I only > > speculated that the James Fitzpatrick aho appears in the 1820 Orange > > County, > > IN census might be the James who married Anna Behymer. Any chance I > > could > > get a copy of the guardianship papers that you mention for James and > > Sybil? > > I would be happy to cover your espenses, which, BTW, I have been > > negligent > > in offering before now. > > > > John Charles Tippet > > johntippet@home.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Karen J. Erickson" <kje11@hotmail.com> > > To: <johntippet@home.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:54 PM > > Subject: BEHYMER/FITZPATRICK > > > > > > > Sorry, I wasn't actually looking at the website when I made my > > observation. > > > I had copied the generation pages so I could review them at my > > leisure. > > > Please give me the URL again so I can bookmark it. I didn't > > realize we > > were > > > going to be having so much conversation. > > > > > > Now that you mention it, I also have a notation re: Benjamin and > > Unis w/ > > > children going to Fountain Co. IN. This reference comes from Ralph > > BEHYMER > > > who lived outside Withamsville. He was an avid genealogist and I > > > corresponded w/ him during the 1970's. Instead of trying to "piece > > meal" > > the > > > information together I will send copies of the letters. That way > > you can > > > take what you need, if anything. He says that he is descended from > > Solomon > > > BEHYMER who married Polly WEBB. > > > > > > There is also a reference to a diary from Lora BEHYMER DULEY. Are > > you > > > familiar w/ that. > > > > > > I have a copy of an undated letter to Aileen, I assume it's Aileen > > Witt. > > The > > > person said that they had done some work on the BEHYMER-FRANCE > > line. No > > > other details were given. It is signed Hilda Blakney. > > > > > > I was in Clermont Co. in the 1970's and met with Ralph. Then again > > in > > 1991. > > > He had died by then but the library in Batavia had a file cabinet > > full of > > > his correspondence re: various families in Clermont County. Are > > you > > familiar > > > w/ that? > > > > > > I also have copies of letters that I wrote requesting probate > > files on > > James > > > in Lawrence and Orange Counties in Indiana. They had none. > > > > > > I will continue to think about whose daughter Nancy FITPATRICK > > BEHYMER > > might > > > be. James and Sybil's children are pretty well lined out in a > > guardianship > > > proceeding, and Nancy doesn't fit in. But I'll check some more. > > > > > > That's all I can think of for the moment. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > ___ > > _________ > > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other > > family > > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.