Hi listmembers, I am looking for information on William Coats & Sarah Jane (LEMON) SMITH. They were born in NJ abt 1803 and were in Warren Co, Ohio by 1838. Could I get a lookup for information on William & Sarah on the 1840 & 1850 census if there is one? They had at least 3 children born in Ohio. Charles S. SMITH b 1838, William Francis SMITH b 1840, and Emily SMITH b 1842. Their Son John B was b in NJ in 1833. I was wondering if they were living near other Smiths or maybe Coats families that may lead to information about their marriage or parents. Up until now all searches in NJ and PA have yielded nothing. William Francis SMITH was born in New Caledonia, Warren CO, OH which I understand no longer exists. Was there a newspaper in that part of the country in 1840? Any thing you could help me with would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Steve Peterson ptrsn@home.com

I proposed,colletively, that we might guess those buried in the 10-15 spaces in a row at olf Bethel with only Martha ,consort of Richard Doughty,and Wm Jeffers having tombstones,and Mrs Wm Jeffers seems one. Let's say another was Martha,consort of 'Robert ' Doughty. 1814, or before tombstoe could be purchased. Martha Leeds Doughgty. And if it seems logical that the row held 2 Martha's,one of Richard,and one of Robert Doughty, how about Martha,d 1814's parents. Robert and Margaret Leeds Leeds, from 180-4-05 living less than a mile away. Robert,b july 7,1757 d March 1835 and his wife, Margaret Leeds Leeds,b abt 1765 m NJ 1784.

> I saw a "Mary Johnson" in this archive message. She could possibly have been > the daughter of the Richard Devinney that was one of my ancestors that moved > west from Little Egg Harbor, New Jersey. Holly Sweet State of Ohio, Clermont County Court of Common Pleas EBENEZER STIBBINS vs. WILLIAM DEVINNEY, REUBEN MAINS and DELILA MAINS his wife, MARY JOHNSON, RICHARD DEVINNEY & EBENEZER DEVINNEY On 4 Nov 1843, the petitioner filed in said court his petition in Chancery stating in substance that he has the legal title to 2/3 of the following real estate situate in Clermont County and State of Ohio, bounded as follows--Beginning in WASHINGTON's line at 2 beeches, running with the meadows of Ten Mile Creek to a hickory on the bank of the creek; thence S10deg.E120poles to a lynn in TOWLES' line thence S70degW57poles to a lynn and sugartree, thence W38deg140poles to the beginning containing 68 acres more or less. The 2nd tract lying on the waters of Ten Mile Creek in said state and county being part of NATHANIEL LUCAS' Survey #1753 and bounded as follows to wit--Beginning at a hickory near the creek; thence S10deg.E12poles to a lynn; thence N70degE58poles to a stone fence which a buckeye bears N23degE80links, thence with a run 14degW60poles to a sycamore tree and stump in the creek; thence with the creek 22 poles to the beginning containing 36 acres more or less. And that he claims a lien for money paid by him in order to secure the legal title thereof, as one of the administrators of JACOB STIBBENS, who bought one piece of said land and died without having completed his payments for the same. The prayer of the bill is for an order of partition of said land and for general relief. Said defendants have notice to appear at the next term of said court and plead answer or demur to said petition within 60 days next after said term, otherwise the same will be taken as confessed against them and a decree made therof accordingly. EBENEZER STIBBENS by JOHN JOLLIFFE, his attorney. 5 Jan 1844 - ---------------------------------- Cabinet Making WILLIAM J. HOOKER respectfully informs the public that he has removed his cabinet shop to the south side of Main Street opposite the Courthouse where he expects to keep on hand for sale a general assortment of work in his line of business which he endeavors to sell at the lowest price. He is also prepared with a hearse for funeral occasions, which will accompany the coffin he makes free of charge. All kinds of country produce taken in payment for furniture. WILLIAM J. HOOKER Batavia Ohio 12 Oct 1843. > Subject: Nathanial Johnson,b NJ 1768 D 8-18-1840 > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:26:35 -0500 > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com > > Mary Johnson, 3-10-1765- 7-25-1848 > Margaret Johnson, 1801-1871 > all buried in Old Bethel > As I walk the birm of RT 125 west, I'm walking to the 2 story federal > brick farm house they built. Who were they? From where in NJ? > Elder Thomas Sheldon,JP's in-laws? Parents of Wm JOHNSON,Tell City > Ind banker who headed the Civil War vetrans group,the Grand Army of the > Republic. Or,as my uncle Ely would say.kinsmen of Walter Johnson,the > famed old baseball pitcher? >

Lyman Copeland Draper wasn't just hired by the State Historical Society of Wisconsin Library- he WAS the Society. When the Society was founded in 1848(?) it was little more than a gentleman's social club for government officials slightly interested in history. When Lyman was hired a few years later he completely transformed the organization into an open and PUBLIC force for collecting everything he could get his hands on (but especially the history of the settlement of the Midwest after the Revolution). Without Lyman the State Historical Society of Wisconsin would not be the world class research institution that it is today. GraveNews2@aol.com wrote: > > Just thought I would advise everyone that the Draper Papers cover a wide > area, and not particularly the Midwest. Lyman Draper lived (I believe on > the Erie Canal) among Old Revolutioners. He was very enchanted by their > stories and began writing down their information. His brother-in-law > supported him as he traveled all over the then United States visiting old > soldiers and/or their families, collecting along with the stories, lists and > lists of person who were early settlers in an area, Bible records, deeds, > etc, anything he could get his hands on, and was not, as I understand it, too > particular about lifting public records. Late in life, he was hired by the > Wisconsin Historical Society. He had all of his trunks of papers shipped to > Wisconsin. He left all of his manuscripts, etc. to the Wisconsin Historical > Society. When they went to his home to "collect", they found every room in > his home stacked high with all of his "jewels" and were "hard put" to get > through the home. Lou in Indiana > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

Last night's MaBell from Gary Knepp started re Garrard Polycarp Riley,and James Bunting [Bunton], Undergroud RRer's. I referr Gary to page 68-69 of the 1980 history of Clermont Co for a history of the Concord-Goggle Eye neighborhood written by the 1st Mrs Frank Summers, and submitted by Ruhama Fagley. And to pg 21,of the 1870 atlas of Clermont, s Williamsburg twnsp-military survey's 564 [Goggle Eye],8289 [Shanghi Ridge] 705 [Concord=Angola]+Tunnel Mill+Wait's salt lick. And maybe 2436. 50% of that area is in Lake Harsha,or East Fork State Park. From G.P.Riley, in no 564 south on Concord Rd to Bethel,in Tate Twnsp, past Brown's,Reed's, Denham's is 2 miles. Bethel-Concord Rd thru those survey's is the Bullskin Trace,with major springs about G.P.Riley, and the salt lick north of Concord Church in 705. "Sprague and Hammond" in 1805,was the Concord-Angola store-P.O. ,AND 1970,the Frank Summers [my step father-in-law] .Rt 133 is an 1802 era resurvey ,and local genealogist Hilda Musgrove Johnson Blakeney wrote me that Clover school house,["133 club" on rt 133 in no 2950 was used for hiding slaves. Clover church in no 3333,on RT 133 was my grandfather's. G.W.[Washington]Van OsDol's,in no 8239 was James Bunting's-Carrie Iten's. L MATOX was Bunting's bro-in-law, John Leeds,JP buried Concord. I'm betting the Chatterton's,and the Sprague's, ,and just s of RT 133,in n TATE, my STONE's and Iden's [not Iten] were very anti-slavery,if not 'Underground RRer's. The 1st 3 were New England-NY people. The Iden's left te east,1834,as Quakers. Clover church,at times was theirs. Do any of you have traditions of having Underground RAILROADer ancestors? And is there anything written before the modern era,so stating. Anyway,Gary,from Zachariah Riley's mill to Concord church was 2 miles. Or s to Bethel 2 miles. To Obed Denham,Jr 1 mile G.P. Riley taught school at about Mary Deal,in 8289. She lived atop the hill up from Clover [lick] creek. [not unlike the hills at Batavia. ] My studies keep running into the submitter [1980' ]of this article,Ruhama Fagley. 1929 Charter D.A.R. officer Charter member Clermont Co,Gen Soc. 62 years and 2 days ago,she was in a lot of pain at Cincinnati's Bethesda Hospital. [1901-94] Tears-----

Just thought I would advise everyone that the Draper Papers cover a wide area, and not particularly the Midwest. Lyman Draper lived (I believe on the Erie Canal) among Old Revolutioners. He was very enchanted by their stories and began writing down their information. His brother-in-law supported him as he traveled all over the then United States visiting old soldiers and/or their families, collecting along with the stories, lists and lists of person who were early settlers in an area, Bible records, deeds, etc, anything he could get his hands on, and was not, as I understand it, too particular about lifting public records. Late in life, he was hired by the Wisconsin Historical Society. He had all of his trunks of papers shipped to Wisconsin. He left all of his manuscripts, etc. to the Wisconsin Historical Society. When they went to his home to "collect", they found every room in his home stacked high with all of his "jewels" and were "hard put" to get through the home. Lou in Indiana

Hermon, You all seem to have so much information that it amazes me. Maybe you can help me. I am researching the Lindsey lineage. Father :Edwin Oliver dob 1927, GF OliverPerry Lindsey Dob: 1887 DOD: 1981 married Lulu Figgins DOB 1887 DOD 1970 ,( lived in Lindale Ohio). GGF Edmund Lindsey of him the only information is that he served in the 34th infantry. Who is the GGM? I can't seem to place who Edmund married. Could it have been Barbary Fischer as the Mt. Pisgah Cemetery holds some very old lots. Also Where did Lulu come from? her father was Benjamin David Figgins DOB 1-11-1837. The only record I have of Edmund is the cemetery plot and the record of 34th Infantry which joined the 36th. Any help would be appreciated. Sharon Lindsey Elam -----Original Message----- From: HERMON B FAGLEY [mailto:hermfagley@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:36 AM To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PARKER-L] RE:Parker,Higbee,Byard,Curless I have,on floppie-someplace- the servant Byard. And watch Bard -French as much as Bayard these days. "But" I have a book mentioning a NY city ad of 1750 of a Bayard selling a saw mill on the Mullica,or Little Egg Harbor river. Exact river where my James Leeds m Rhoda Byard. I got new data of an James and Leah - Parker, who seem,in NJ,and Clermont, near Timothy Curless. 20 years I have noted Isaac H Parker,on the 1870 and 1891 atlas, living on farm settled,1803, by Isaac and Sophia Somers Higbee,of the Mullica. Last night, I got smart enough to call him Isaac Higbee Parker. A Joseph Parker was trustee,1798 of a church on the Mullica with Isaac Higbee-a church that mostly moved from NJ shore to mid Clermont Co,Oh 1803 On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:17:39 -0800 Lance Beeson <lancebeeson@home.com> writes: > And Asher Curless named his son BYARD around 1806, not to be confused > with > the various forms of Abiah (his half-brother) who had grandsons > named Abiah, > Abier and Biar. But Hermon, I did find that the neighbor Lippincotts > back in > Burlington near William Corlies Jr.'s place (Springfield Township) > had a > runaway dutch indenture named Joseph Byard whom Asher and Abiah > would have > known. Not like illustrious kin of Baltasar Bayard. If you care, I > will dig > up notice of runaway, it was in Philadelphia Newspaper in late 1700s > and I > sent it out about two years ago. Never throw away anything but have > heck of > a time finding it. Like a bug in Traficants latest hairdo. What is > it with > that guy? > And remember that I found Corless' in Allegheny Cty WVA? Place name > there, > and I sent that out too. A touch of NJ in WVirginny. Usually find > Penn-Carolina Quakers there I thought. You're on to something. > HERMON B FAGLEY wrote: > > > John Sapp,Sr moved where WV would be 6 miles wide,at Weirton,WV. > And > > joined my > > colony to Boonesboro,Madison Co,Ky 1787. > > [Logsdon-Durbin-Brown-Wells-Sappington,et al] > > and joined part of them back 100 miles north to the Ohio River,at > > Carntown,Ky 1798-1802. > > John died at what became CARNTOWN,BY 1802, his boys moved 8-10 > miles > > north into s > > Clermont Co,Oh. Fredrick,'Ky George,John Jr, Edward Sapp adj my > Brown's, > > and the Armacost's. > > 'Ky George Sapp [M Ralph Logsdon's dau] then moved another 150 > miles > > north to Danville,Ohio. > > Your Parker's were in w Md-Pa-Va 15 years before Mason-Dixon > finally > > surveyed the line. Md almost > > ended at Hancock,Md. I must say that my James Leeds.who m Rhoda > > Byard,1786,old Gloucester Co,NJ > > lived within > > 5-7 miles,in s Clermont Co,Ohio,of the Sapp-Armacost's. And that 2 > > Monmouth-Ocean Co,NJ > > Winner's and Mason's lived here in Clermont Co,sw Ohio.Several of > those > > names of yours,including > > Sapp,Winner,Byard, Parker were slightly found on the > Mullica-Little Egg > > Harbor,river of mid NJ shore. > > How about George Peterson,who was of Pleasant Mills,NJ and > Clermont Co,Oh > > and buried at Funkstown,Md? > > Alexander Sapp m 1830 Matilda Porter,s Clermont Co,Ohio > > "Ky George " Sapp's [I think] Nancy Sapp m 1827 Titus Hare,so "Ky > George > > "Sapp had > > yet to move 150 miles n e to Danville,Ohio > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:52:45 -0500 "Patricia Hook" > <pahook@hereintown.net> > > writes: > > > Hermon, > > > > > > Do you have any other data of BYARD family?? Any of them > marry > > > PARKERS > > > ?? That name BYARD sure has me puzzled, since it was my > > > gg-grandfathers > > > very odd middle name. > > > I believe I have told you before that my ggg-aunt Mary > Margaret > > > "Polly" > > > Parker m; 1st Frederick Sapp d. 1817 m; 2nd; Thomas J. Porter > in > > > 1819. > > > They then relocated to Ohio. > > > We can't seem to find where Fred Sapp & Polly were married. > > > Someone > > > suggested it may be KY. Polly & Tommy Porter were married here > in > > > Allegany Co. > > > > > > Here in Allegany Co. MD. Potomac River seperates us from WV. > We > > > cross a > > > bridge in our downtown area and we are in WV. PA is only 5 > miles > > > north. > > > We are really in a pinch here from PA & WV. In Colonial > times > > > there > > > was a Trading Post (think the Ohio Co. of VA) just on the VA/WV > > > side of > > > Potomac River very close to Fort Cumberland. I know there were > > > several > > > PARKER families living in Hampshire Co. area. My Robert Parker > > > had land > > > in northern area of Cumberland, then called Wills Town. I > traced > > > the > > > Deed of his Lot # 3350. He may have been squatter. I am > > > wondering that > > > perhaps he like the PORTER boys, John and Moses wasn't a > Surveyors > > > helper > > > or Scout of the Mason-Dixon Line. They all found a spot and > > > squatted > > > there on the PA/MD Line. Robert Parkers land is 50 acres--in > MD. > > > -and > > > running north into PA at the 165 PA. post. But it is also > > > possible my > > > PARKERS were part of the Trading Posts listed in the area. My > > > grandmother said I had Indian Blood, don't know where that came > > > from---either her Parkers or her WINNER in-laws, with the name > of > > > CROW. > > > (Laura Crow m; Harmon Winner their youngest son married my > > > grandmother > > > Parker) > > > But what better opportunity of having Indian Blood as when your > > > ancestors > > > were Indian Traders??? > > > > > > I really enjoy reading your Posts---don't miss any of them. > Feel > > > that > > > one day someone is going to lay the golden PARKER egg in my lap. > > > Who > > > knows we may find that we do have common ancestors!!! > > > > > > Thank you for your hints as to where I might find my Parkers. > > > Take Care > > > Pat (Winner) Hook > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > > > > To: pahook@hereintown.net; cdiller@juno.com > > > > Subject: Re: [PARKER-L] RE: "Notes on Old Gloucester Co. N.J." > > > > Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:10 PM > > > > > > > > Certainly the NJ shore Parkers lived amid somew of the > Swede's. > > > > Indeed,Jonathan Parker m > > > > Abigail Steelman, whose gg uncle,Capt Johan Hans Steelman > likely > > > indian > > > > traded > > > > on the Upper Potomac,1710-20. And ,Parker's,Steelman's and Ky > Geo > > > Sapp > > > > lived,once > > > > a few sw Ohio miles apart. NJ shore is my James Leeds m Rachel > > > Byard,1786 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:50:55 -0500 "Patricia Hook" > > > <pahook@hereintown.net> > > > > writes: > > > > > Hi Hermon, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that History of the Parkers in N.J. I still > don't > > > know > > > > > where > > > > > my Parkers came from before landing here in Western MD. > > > > > > > > > > However, I know by 1820 some had migrated to Knox Co. Ohio > in > > > Mt. > > > > > Vernon, > > > > > Danville area. In fact, my gg-grandfather GEORGE BAYARD > > > PARKER > > > > > b. ca > > > > > 1814 (Obit says 1814, 1880 MD, Census implies b. 1821) > > > married > > > > > HENRIETTA MAGERS/MAJORS there in Knox Co. in 1844, at St. > > > Lukes > > > > > Catholic Church. Their son, my gr-garandfather JOHN THOMAS > > > PARKER > > > > > was > > > > > born in Knox Co. in 1847. About 1850 George, Henrietta and > son > > > > > > > > John > > > > > returned to Western MD. Here George died in 1887. > > > > > > > > > > The earliest PARKER names I find in Western MD. is ROBERT > and > > > AARON. > > > > > > > > > > Aaron seems to have Hampshire Co. VA/WV ties. But cannot > find > > > > > where > > > > > Robert came from--who is said to be my > > > Ancestor---gggg-grandfather. > > > > > Or > > > > > whether he and AARON were related.?? > > > > > > > > > > I haven't come across a JOSEPH PARKER in Western MD. But > do > > > feel > > > > > that > > > > > there were some of my PARKER's who earlier had by 1820 had > > > relocated > > > > > to > > > > > OHIO & possibly KY. > > > > > > > > > > I think perhaps I should investigate these Parkers from N.J. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information > > > > > Take Care > > > > > Pat Hook > > > > > >

Cousins Bob and Bill Fagley have been sharing a photo post card of 1905 students, from Bob,"the Deacon" Fagley in Bethel to his brother, Walter,in Amelia [teaching?] The 1980 history of Clermont Co, page 29-31 has ELLEN TOWN'S "History of the 1908 class, and a picture of the 1906 juniors and Sr's Ellen Town White and Abbie Town lived across from the bank at Plane and Unuin. Ellen's grandson,Larry Peak '55 was also a skilled writer. Too long for me to type-abstracting Calvie and Faye White,once from Chilo Clifford "Speedy"Frazee Mae Hill, from Crane 1 room school,and Parkersburg Otta Lovelace,from Butler,Ky John Sells,the butcher lad Flora Dillman,from Hamersville Pearl Foster [was she "Hap? HBF] Ebon Hill started at Crane 1 room,and then to Walden [ky?hbf] and came back to study at Bethel 3 years. Father of Col [ellihi@zone.net] and my buddy,Phillip Hill [desc],Ebon was rewarded for teaching both my mother and I,by having the Elementary School named for him. Nellie Blosser,from Logan and Bantam-did she become a Dr? Dellia Frazee,like the Fagley's,went to Republician 1 room Bob Fagley, the "Deacon',as he is known by his classmates,and most skilled at Geometry. Imo Ferree went to Williamsburg 10 years, Clara Smith went to Crane's. And my wife's grandfather's brother,Homer Ashton from Williamsburg, while my wife's grandfather,J Allen Ashton taught the above,and 06 classes. Dianna Scott Ellen Town White pictured,in part,are 'Tip" Foster, Daisy Lady, Clark Zugg, Clarence 'Cap" Hill my uncles Savyl and Ely Brown, night watchman Harley Simcox, Allen Harris,Sr

Mary Johnson, 3-10-1765- 7-25-1848 Margaret Johnson, 1801-1871 all buried in Old Bethel As I walk the birm of RT 125 west, I'm walking to the 2 story federal brick farm house they built. Who were they? From where in NJ? Elder Thomas Sheldon,JP's in-laws? Parents of Wm JOHNSON,Tell City Ind banker who headed the Civil War vetrans group,the Grand Army of the Republic. Or,as my uncle Ely would say.kinsmen of Walter Johnson,the famed old baseball pitcher? Malcom Wilson,Cliff Justice, Ed and Annabelle Justice Harris, Rosalee HARRIS Douglas, Miami U,and now Butch Loudon have lived in the old brick. I walked north on Sugartree yesterday past Jesse Justices-Electra Collins Bragdon m Col Wm Thomas to John Drummond,d 2-10-1845 78 years-from Gibbstown,Paulsboro,NJ. He,and Edward Barton,Sr were NJ trustees of a Methodist church. And stopped at where Edna - PETZEL GARVEY SIZEMORE's old brick built by [?] Hannah McIntosh,b 2793 d 1850 Alexaner McIntosh's mother? Who were the McIntosh's. I walked south to the corner of the Thomas Page 1805 farm sold 1817 to Pres-Gen Grant's JOHN SIMPSON. Saw the tombstones of John,and his 2nd,Hare, wife,and son Samuel Simpson,in Old Bethel YESTERDAY. Who were Johnson's and McIntosh's,whose farms once joined mine,and whose old 2 story brick were not similar.

I'm struck with what a great group,and how much combined knowledge we have. Can we,combined, make an educated guess who is buried,without tombstones? My thoughts have been on a different cemetary, but I was in Old Bethel Methodist's cemetary a few min yesterday. So--- There is a row,with spaces for ,maybe 10-15 graves, and only 2 tombstones survive. [the cemetary is 10 + years older than when regular sandstone tombstones could be bought. 1807-17. O.K. mAYBE A BLANK FROM THE CHURCH,AND THEN 'WILLIAM JEFFERS" D May 4th 1833 in 74th years. [My Mom said he was nail maker for the Jersey colony, and lived on Back Run n of modern RT 125. Son m a Pine,and lived west side Back Run.1982 a desc visited Mom] O.K. Jeffers, and then 6-8-10 blank spaces,and then Martha Doughty,consort of Richard Doughty d JUNE 4,1814,and then more blank spaces. I'll guess 1st, that R Doughty was Richard Doughty,b Absecon, w Atlantic City, NJ, and that Richard Doughty's buried next to Martha,unmarked. Maybe Martha has an infant,b 1814,by her side? Mom wrote that Wm Jeffers was of Swedish blood. We write in our resource books So,my Mom, 1901-94, has her comments added to above. I went thru some cemetaries adding the wife's maiden name. Where possible. Richard Doughty was uncle of Mrs John S Parker. Richard and jeffers lived just west-sw of the dam of Lake Harsha. I pointed out to my dau that though only a couple graves seperated Wm Simonds from the Collins wife of Rev Wm Simmons-that they were 2 different men likely un-related. Page 244 of Evert's 1880 history mentions Richard Doughty being quite a hunter.His brother died a hunter near Dan'l Teegarden,in franklin co,ind 1811-12 winter. Anyway,whose buried between Wm Jeffers and Martha Doughty?

Herman and listers; A couple of years ago I corresponded with a descendent of these Jeffery/Jeffers lines looked in my old files and found her notes, William Jeffers married Sarah Rollins in 1792 they moved from Westmoreland Co Pa to Clermont and had 8 children, in 1833 William Jeffers Sr. died and then Sarah, both in Batavia, and buried in Bethel Cemetery in Bantam. so I am guessing the next grave would be Sarah Rollins Jeffers/Jeffrys Warrene

Karen: Could you please forward the URL for the online death index. Thanks.

Sharrie, Thanks so much for this information! I can not add much as I knew nothing except for the marriage of Abigail Steelman and Jonathan Parker. I do know Jonathan Parker moved to Clermont Co. after 1830. He's on the 1840 census with, presumably, his wife. In 1850 I find J. Parker living with possibly, his daughter and family. Abigail must have died. Can find no record of his or her death. This certainly gives me much information to work with. I understand you haven't documented this but it's still a wonderful place for me to start and I do thank you so much for sharing!!! > From: SDJZ@aol.com > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:48:10 EST > To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Steelman family > Resent-From: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:48:20 -0800 > > Please understand that I have not been documented this information. My source > is from my father's aunt, Clara Jones and her research from the 1950's. Would > appreciate any comments, additions, corrections or location of burials. > > Major John Steelman (son of John Steelman and Abigail Adams) born 1756, died > 1799 in Abescon, New Jersey > married 1779 in New Jersey, Margaret Leeds (daughter of Nehemiah Leeds, Jr., > and Ann Risley) were the parents of 7 children. This John Steelman served in > Gloucester County militia for one month, May 1781. > > 1. Nehemiah Steelman born September 03, 1780 (lost at sea) may have married > Rebecca Steelman, March 25, 1803, Gloucester County, New Jersey > > 2. Zephaniah Steelman born September 30, 1785 > > 3. Julie Ann Steelman, (my ggg grandmother) born September 9, 1788, died 1850 > married Absalom Higbee, March 2, 1823, in New Jersey. Rachell Scull was the > first wife of Absalom Higbee. Absalom Higbee, son of John Higbee and Mary > Smith, died 1833 in Gloucester County, New Jersey. Absalom Higbee and Julia > Ann Steelman were the parents of two daughters, (Elizabeth Higbee born 1824, > married David Mefford) and Abigail Steelman Higbee, (my gg grandmother) born > September 29, 1826, died April 29, 1885 in Clermont County, Ohio, married > Stephen Benton South on March 16, 1845 in Bethel, Clermont County, Ohio > Julie Ann Steelman married 2nd John S. Carter, September 24, 1840 in Clermont > County, Ohio. > > 4. Abigail Steelman born April 1, 1791, married Jonathan John Parker, > September 11, 1808, Gloucester County, New Jersey. > > 5. Jonas Steelman born September 20, 1793, and died 1856, married in 1814 Ann > McCullough. > > 6. Leeds Steelman born August 21, 1796, married first Abigail Risley and > married second Ann Steelman. > > 7. Phanuel Newell Steelman born September 26, 1799, married April 11, 1824 to > Elizabeth Mires in Gloucester County, New Jersey > > > Sharrie Viars > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

I am sending this to several county lists, so I apologize if some of you are getting your email list cluttered up with multiple messages. Visit this site...http://arcat.library.wisc.edu/....for the Wisconsin Historical Society's archive catalogue. I searched by title for Draper Manuscripts and also did the guided keyword search using Draper in the first box and paper? in the second one, then search. The latter gave me a lot more information to choose from than the first one and included all the first listings anyway. The actual manuscripts and collections are not online and probably never will be in our lifetime. You will soon see why as the amount of material is staggering. It appears you can order microfilm through interlibrary loan via your local library. I wouldn't have time to look at one if I ordered it now, but if someone does, I wish they would let me know how it worked and what they thought of it. You will find many, many names actually listed...ie in each section a list of names and topics is included, basically like an index so you can get an idea if this is a section you would be interested in seeing in detail. In many instances, it actually says that genealogy information is included for a particular family. This has to be a gold mine of information for some of you who had ancestors in the Northwest territory in the mid to late 1700's and early to mid 1800's. I recognize names on some of the lists that I have seen requests for information on through these county mailing lists, so check it out. Susan in Milwaukee

The Ohio Historical Society has a death index available online. It lists a John T. BENNETT DOD: 16 Mar 1931, Certificate #21215, Vol. #6574. You can order the certificate from them at 1982 Velma Ave. Columbus, Ohio 43211. I'm not sure what the price is. Isn't the internet wonderful!! >From: Darci R Stephan <bnd15@juno.com> >To: OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Bennett >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:44:25 -0500 > >Is there anyone who can do an obituary look-up? I'm looking for a John >T. Bennett who died on March 16, 1931 but wasn't buried til April 24, >1931. His death cert. says he died of suicide by drowning. He was 82 >yrs old. He lived in Moscow , OH. If anyone has any info on the >Bennetts they could share it would be greatly appreciated. >Thank you, >Darci R. Stephan >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I'm reading Ann Parker m Nathan Cox,and thinking of the boy buried by Edward Doughty,NP Cox.-both reburied from the East Fork Campground [with 50 unmarked graves] to Old Bethel. I'm thinking of Edward Doughty's dau,Ann m 1804 James,of Ramouth [ [Raworth?] Bunting .AND of their dau marrying JOHN S [teelman?] Parker,buried 1877 old cemetary,Bethel,they say. Edward Doughty's son-in-law,John Leeds,JP PREFORMING THE ceremony. My guess is that John Leeds,JP lived at Earl Ausman's present house,,and James Bunting at Carrie Iten's, and another in-law, William Compton adjoining on the north [Maybe Compton's house burned with multiple deaths 1970.? James Leeds m 1786 Leeds Point,NJ Rhoda Byard was father of John Leeds, JP,and Timothy,and Mrs Sam Ely[ m 1804 NJ] and Betsy Wilson-neighbors of Edward Doughty in mid Clermont Co,Oh. Absecon to Leeds Point,NJ people,and, 1695,James and Susanah Toy, Steelman,at Somers Point,NJ. Same Somers family as Isaac Higbee,Sr m Sophia Somers,1803 to sw Oh with Doughty. And Higbee,Jr founded Provo Utah as early Morman. The Jersey colony's Lake Harsha,Clermont Co,Oh colony provided several with Brigham Young's 1st Utah migration. Conover, String,whose wife was an Albertson, Higbee, MORE. I've walked John Leeds,JP'S house in the last month. Used to sled ride my girls at Isaac Higbee's,and Isaac Higbee Parker's,and Janie May Jagley's. On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 07:51:11 -0800 Shari Cox <rael@best.com> writes: > Hermon, > > Do you have any more information on Jonathan Parker or Abigail > Steelman? I > believe them to be my husband's ggg grandparents. You say her gg > uncle was > Captain Johan Hans Steelman. Do you know her parents, grandparents > or > anything about his? > > I believe their daughter is Ann Parker who married Nathan Cox in > Clermont > Co. OH 1838. > > You seem to have so much information to share and I'd appreciate any > help or > information you have. > > Thanks, > > Shari Cox > > >>>>> From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > >>>>> To: pahook@hereintown.net; cdiller@juno.com > >>>>> Subject: Re: [PARKER-L] RE: "Notes on Old Gloucester Co. N.J." > >>>>> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:10 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> Certainly the NJ shore Parkers lived amid somew of the > >> Swede's. > >>>>> Indeed,Jonathan Parker m > >>>>> Abigail Steelman, whose gg uncle,Capt Johan Hans Steelman > >> likely > >>>> indian > >>>>> traded > >>>>> on the Upper Potomac,1710-20. And ,Parker's,Steelman's and Ky > >> Geo > >>>> Sapp > >>>>> lived,once > >>>>> a few sw Ohio miles apart. > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hermon, Do youy have any more information on the Winner family? I am trying to find out more about my GGGrandfather Aaron S. Winner born in Ohio about 1835. Thanks, Gary Winner

Hermon, Do you have any more information on Jonathan Parker or Abigail Steelman? I believe them to be my husband's ggg grandparents. You say her gg uncle was Captain Johan Hans Steelman. Do you know her parents, grandparents or anything about his? I believe their daughter is Ann Parker who married Nathan Cox in Clermont Co. OH 1838. You seem to have so much information to share and I'd appreciate any help or information you have. Thanks, Shari Cox >>>>> From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> >>>>> To: pahook@hereintown.net; cdiller@juno.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [PARKER-L] RE: "Notes on Old Gloucester Co. N.J." >>>>> Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:10 PM >>>>> >>>>> Certainly the NJ shore Parkers lived amid somew of the >> Swede's. >>>>> Indeed,Jonathan Parker m >>>>> Abigail Steelman, whose gg uncle,Capt Johan Hans Steelman >> likely >>>> indian >>>>> traded >>>>> on the Upper Potomac,1710-20. And ,Parker's,Steelman's and Ky >> Geo >>>> Sapp >>>>> lived,once >>>>> a few sw Ohio miles apart.

Please understand that I have not been documented this information. My source is from my father's aunt, Clara Jones and her research from the 1950's. Would appreciate any comments, additions, corrections or location of burials. Major John Steelman (son of John Steelman and Abigail Adams) born 1756, died 1799 in Abescon, New Jersey married 1779 in New Jersey, Margaret Leeds (daughter of Nehemiah Leeds, Jr., and Ann Risley) were the parents of 7 children. This John Steelman served in Gloucester County militia for one month, May 1781. 1. Nehemiah Steelman born September 03, 1780 (lost at sea) may have married Rebecca Steelman, March 25, 1803, Gloucester County, New Jersey 2. Zephaniah Steelman born September 30, 1785 3. Julie Ann Steelman, (my ggg grandmother) born September 9, 1788, died 1850 married Absalom Higbee, March 2, 1823, in New Jersey. Rachell Scull was the first wife of Absalom Higbee. Absalom Higbee, son of John Higbee and Mary Smith, died 1833 in Gloucester County, New Jersey. Absalom Higbee and Julia Ann Steelman were the parents of two daughters, (Elizabeth Higbee born 1824, married David Mefford) and Abigail Steelman Higbee, (my gg grandmother) born September 29, 1826, died April 29, 1885 in Clermont County, Ohio, married Stephen Benton South on March 16, 1845 in Bethel, Clermont County, Ohio Julie Ann Steelman married 2nd John S. Carter, September 24, 1840 in Clermont County, Ohio. 4. Abigail Steelman born April 1, 1791, married Jonathan John Parker, September 11, 1808, Gloucester County, New Jersey. 5. Jonas Steelman born September 20, 1793, and died 1856, married in 1814 Ann McCullough. 6. Leeds Steelman born August 21, 1796, married first Abigail Risley and married second Ann Steelman. 7. Phanuel Newell Steelman born September 26, 1799, married April 11, 1824 to Elizabeth Mires in Gloucester County, New Jersey Sharrie Viars

I have,on floppie-someplace- the servant Byard. And watch Bard -French as much as Bayard these days. "But" I have a book mentioning a NY city ad of 1750 of a Bayard selling a saw mill on the Mullica,or Little Egg Harbor river. Exact river where my James Leeds m Rhoda Byard. I got new data of an James and Leah - Parker, who seem,in NJ,and Clermont, near Timothy Curless. 20 years I have noted Isaac H Parker,on the 1870 and 1891 atlas, living on farm settled,1803, by Isaac and Sophia Somers Higbee,of the Mullica. Last night, I got smart enough to call him Isaac Higbee Parker. A Joseph Parker was trustee,1798 of a church on the Mullica with Isaac Higbee-a church that mostly moved from NJ shore to mid Clermont Co,Oh 1803 On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:17:39 -0800 Lance Beeson <lancebeeson@home.com> writes: > And Asher Curless named his son BYARD around 1806, not to be confused > with > the various forms of Abiah (his half-brother) who had grandsons > named Abiah, > Abier and Biar. But Hermon, I did find that the neighbor Lippincotts > back in > Burlington near William Corlies Jr.'s place (Springfield Township) > had a > runaway dutch indenture named Joseph Byard whom Asher and Abiah > would have > known. Not like illustrious kin of Baltasar Bayard. If you care, I > will dig > up notice of runaway, it was in Philadelphia Newspaper in late 1700s > and I > sent it out about two years ago. Never throw away anything but have > heck of > a time finding it. Like a bug in Traficants latest hairdo. What is > it with > that guy? > And remember that I found Corless' in Allegheny Cty WVA? Place name > there, > and I sent that out too. A touch of NJ in WVirginny. Usually find > Penn-Carolina Quakers there I thought. You're on to something. > HERMON B FAGLEY wrote: > > > John Sapp,Sr moved where WV would be 6 miles wide,at Weirton,WV. > And > > joined my > > colony to Boonesboro,Madison Co,Ky 1787. > > [Logsdon-Durbin-Brown-Wells-Sappington,et al] > > and joined part of them back 100 miles north to the Ohio River,at > > Carntown,Ky 1798-1802. > > John died at what became CARNTOWN,BY 1802, his boys moved 8-10 > miles > > north into s > > Clermont Co,Oh. Fredrick,'Ky George,John Jr, Edward Sapp adj my > Brown's, > > and the Armacost's. > > 'Ky George Sapp [M Ralph Logsdon's dau] then moved another 150 > miles > > north to Danville,Ohio. > > Your Parker's were in w Md-Pa-Va 15 years before Mason-Dixon > finally > > surveyed the line. Md almost > > ended at Hancock,Md. I must say that my James Leeds.who m Rhoda > > Byard,1786,old Gloucester Co,NJ > > lived within > > 5-7 miles,in s Clermont Co,Ohio,of the Sapp-Armacost's. And that 2 > > Monmouth-Ocean Co,NJ > > Winner's and Mason's lived here in Clermont Co,sw Ohio.Several of > those > > names of yours,including > > Sapp,Winner,Byard, Parker were slightly found on the > Mullica-Little Egg > > Harbor,river of mid NJ shore. > > How about George Peterson,who was of Pleasant Mills,NJ and > Clermont Co,Oh > > and buried at Funkstown,Md? > > Alexander Sapp m 1830 Matilda Porter,s Clermont Co,Ohio > > "Ky George " Sapp's [I think] Nancy Sapp m 1827 Titus Hare,so "Ky > George > > "Sapp had > > yet to move 150 miles n e to Danville,Ohio > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:52:45 -0500 "Patricia Hook" > <pahook@hereintown.net> > > writes: > > > Hermon, > > > > > > Do you have any other data of BYARD family?? Any of them > marry > > > PARKERS > > > ?? That name BYARD sure has me puzzled, since it was my > > > gg-grandfathers > > > very odd middle name. > > > I believe I have told you before that my ggg-aunt Mary > Margaret > > > "Polly" > > > Parker m; 1st Frederick Sapp d. 1817 m; 2nd; Thomas J. Porter > in > > > 1819. > > > They then relocated to Ohio. > > > We can't seem to find where Fred Sapp & Polly were married. > > > Someone > > > suggested it may be KY. Polly & Tommy Porter were married here > in > > > Allegany Co. > > > > > > Here in Allegany Co. MD. Potomac River seperates us from WV. > We > > > cross a > > > bridge in our downtown area and we are in WV. PA is only 5 > miles > > > north. > > > We are really in a pinch here from PA & WV. In Colonial > times > > > there > > > was a Trading Post (think the Ohio Co. of VA) just on the VA/WV > > > side of > > > Potomac River very close to Fort Cumberland. I know there were > > > several > > > PARKER families living in Hampshire Co. area. My Robert Parker > > > had land > > > in northern area of Cumberland, then called Wills Town. I > traced > > > the > > > Deed of his Lot # 3350. He may have been squatter. I am > > > wondering that > > > perhaps he like the PORTER boys, John and Moses wasn't a > Surveyors > > > helper > > > or Scout of the Mason-Dixon Line. They all found a spot and > > > squatted > > > there on the PA/MD Line. Robert Parkers land is 50 acres--in > MD. > > > -and > > > running north into PA at the 165 PA. post. But it is also > > > possible my > > > PARKERS were part of the Trading Posts listed in the area. My > > > grandmother said I had Indian Blood, don't know where that came > > > from---either her Parkers or her WINNER in-laws, with the name > of > > > CROW. > > > (Laura Crow m; Harmon Winner their youngest son married my > > > grandmother > > > Parker) > > > But what better opportunity of having Indian Blood as when your > > > ancestors > > > were Indian Traders??? > > > > > > I really enjoy reading your Posts---don't miss any of them. > Feel > > > that > > > one day someone is going to lay the golden PARKER egg in my lap. > > > Who > > > knows we may find that we do have common ancestors!!! > > > > > > Thank you for your hints as to where I might find my Parkers. > > > Take Care > > > Pat (Winner) Hook > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > > > > To: pahook@hereintown.net; cdiller@juno.com > > > > Subject: Re: [PARKER-L] RE: "Notes on Old Gloucester Co. N.J." > > > > Date: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:10 PM > > > > > > > > Certainly the NJ shore Parkers lived amid somew of the > Swede's. > > > > Indeed,Jonathan Parker m > > > > Abigail Steelman, whose gg uncle,Capt Johan Hans Steelman > likely > > > indian > > > > traded > > > > on the Upper Potomac,1710-20. And ,Parker's,Steelman's and Ky > Geo > > > Sapp > > > > lived,once > > > > a few sw Ohio miles apart. NJ shore is my James Leeds m Rachel > > > Byard,1786 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:50:55 -0500 "Patricia Hook" > > > <pahook@hereintown.net> > > > > writes: > > > > > Hi Hermon, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that History of the Parkers in N.J. I still > don't > > > know > > > > > where > > > > > my Parkers came from before landing here in Western MD. > > > > > > > > > > However, I know by 1820 some had migrated to Knox Co. Ohio > in > > > Mt. > > > > > Vernon, > > > > > Danville area. In fact, my gg-grandfather GEORGE BAYARD > > > PARKER > > > > > b. ca > > > > > 1814 (Obit says 1814, 1880 MD, Census implies b. 1821) > > > married > > > > > HENRIETTA MAGERS/MAJORS there in Knox Co. in 1844, at St. > > > Lukes > > > > > Catholic Church. Their son, my gr-garandfather JOHN THOMAS > > > PARKER > > > > > was > > > > > born in Knox Co. in 1847. About 1850 George, Henrietta and > son > > > > > > > > John > > > > > returned to Western MD. Here George died in 1887. > > > > > > > > > > The earliest PARKER names I find in Western MD. is ROBERT > and > > > AARON. > > > > > > > > > > Aaron seems to have Hampshire Co. VA/WV ties. But cannot > find > > > > > where > > > > > Robert came from--who is said to be my > > > Ancestor---gggg-grandfather. > > > > > Or > > > > > whether he and AARON were related.?? > > > > > > > > > > I haven't come across a JOSEPH PARKER in Western MD. But > do > > > feel > > > > > that > > > > > there were some of my PARKER's who earlier had by 1820 had > > > relocated > > > > > to > > > > > OHIO & possibly KY. > > > > > > > > > > I think perhaps I should investigate these Parkers from N.J. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the information > > > > > Take Care > > > > > Pat Hook > > > > > >