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CAUSE OF DEATH? Have you ever wondered what the cause of death of an ancestor really was? Sometimes the names given to diseases are confusing. For instance, what is "bilious fever?" For a good resource on medical terms, diseases, and epidemics, visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck/disease.htm

When I read these names,I see east,to north east of Felicity,in n e Franklin township, and nw Lewis township,Brown Co. I read Wm Plummer's mill was a small tub mill,and that Thomas Plummer later ran a saw mill. The only tub mill I ever saw operating was powered by a spring,on the mountian east of Gattlinsburg,TN. Anyway,I'll say Mt Zion Methodist [RT 756 at the county line,or Hopewell Methodist west of Felicity was the church. Rev Peter Hasting's name hints at the latter. 1822,my own old Rev Jesse Justice rode 10+ miles to minister MT ZION. Boys loved his sermons,for he often got off-topic,and talked of his REV WAR service in NJ. Gregor's on this list. Henry Bascom Gregor came to my neighboirhood to run a mill. Eva Gregor m James Leeds Jr. Sherry Conley and my dau are pals 35 years. The DEMARIS,TATMAN,Penny are on the Lewis and Clark twnsp,Brown Co side of the neighborhood's line. Joyce DEMARIS was my classmate. Classmate Kay Hannah had TATMAN blood. Penny's then lived n e e of our Bethel,in Clark twnsp,Brown Co,as did Jerry DEMARIS. 1956. FLOREA might be a surname,with Metzger,Shinkle,Coffman,Chapman, Did he trust not the Bolender's,Kellum's,Baum's, Sells, Poe's,Sims? Methodist REV PETER HASTINGS AND WALTER GRIFFITH are mentioned. On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:42:16 -0600 (CST) carol wilson <cjwilson@cheqnet.net> writes: > Hello, > I haven't been on your list for long, so don't know what sort of > information might be helpful to others. I found a list of buyers > and those > who owed the estate of William Plummer and thought some of these > names might > help someone place their ancestors. William died in 1822 (will made > in > June) and apparently had a mill on Bullskin Creek. The date of the > sale was > Dec, 1823. If anyone can correct the surnames, please let me know. > I am interested in knowing more about Lewis PENNY, John CONLEY, > John > DEMARIS, Joshua TATMAN and the MILLER's. > > Thanks, > > Carol Wilson > > Buyers at Sale of William PLUMMER Clermont Co. > > Benjamin Plummer > Samuel Metzker > John Hastings > Samuel Plummer > Naman Plummer > Lewis Penny > John Cofman > John Conley > Abraham Miller > Benjamin Chatman > Jacob Shingles (maybe Shinkle?) > Naman Chatman > John Demaris > Joseph Wells > Peter Shingles > William Jump > Alexander Gregor > William Plummer > William Bradley > William Griffs (sic) > Joshua Tatman > Joseph Powell > David Miller > > Money owed to the Estate by: > > Peter Hastings > Isaac Day > Blizer Florin ?? > John Bennett > William Norris > John Ballinger > Jenny Smith > Walter Griffin > John Moore > John Barnett > Walter Lerch > John Gooding > William Wise > George Nealy > > > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hello, I haven't been on your list for long, so don't know what sort of information might be helpful to others. I found a list of buyers and those who owed the estate of William Plummer and thought some of these names might help someone place their ancestors. William died in 1822 (will made in June) and apparently had a mill on Bullskin Creek. The date of the sale was Dec, 1823. If anyone can correct the surnames, please let me know. I am interested in knowing more about Lewis PENNY, John CONLEY, John DEMARIS, Joshua TATMAN and the MILLER's. Thanks, Carol Wilson Buyers at Sale of William PLUMMER Clermont Co. Benjamin Plummer Samuel Metzker John Hastings Samuel Plummer Naman Plummer Lewis Penny John Cofman John Conley Abraham Miller Benjamin Chatman Jacob Shingles (maybe Shinkle?) Naman Chatman John Demaris Joseph Wells Peter Shingles William Jump Alexander Gregor William Plummer William Bradley William Griffs (sic) Joshua Tatman Joseph Powell David Miller Money owed to the Estate by: Peter Hastings Isaac Day Blizer Florin ?? John Bennett William Norris John Ballinger Jenny Smith Walter Griffin John Moore John Barnett Walter Lerch John Gooding William Wise George Nealy

Thanks Barbara Jean. You have sent us some wonderful sites and information. I appreciate all your effort. Lynda Speidel Researching: TEMPLE, NASH, ROBB, WITHAM, BENNETT, BARDBURY, BRAGDON, GRAY, CLARK(E), LOGAN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Jean Green" <bjgreen@infinet.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 8:50 AM Subject: CENSUS - What information was taken during each census year > I keep a print-out of this handy reference. It is most complete, plus > generates blank forms for each year. > > http://www.genealogylookups.com/census_rolls.htm > > > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

...With the lack of records created for women who lived more than a century or so ago, it is often very difficult to find information on the ladies in our family trees.... http://www.ancestry.lycos.com/library/view/columns/compass/3493.asp

>^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< Obituary - Someone Else Our church was saddened to learn this week of the death of one of our most valued members, Someone Else. Someone's passing creates a vacancy that will be difficult to fill. Else has been with us for many years and for every one of those years, Someone did far more than a normal person's share of the work. Whenever there was a job to do, a class to teach, or a meeting to attend, one name was on everyone's list, "Let Someone Else do it." Whenever leadership was mentioned, this wonderful person was looked to for inspiration as well as results; "Someone Else can work with that group." It was common knowledge that Someone Else was among the most liberal givers in our church. Whenever there was a financial need, everyone just assumed Someone Else would make up the difference. Someone Else was a wonderful person; sometimes appearing superhuman. Were the truth known, everybody expected too much of Someone Else. Now Someone Else is gone! We wonder what we are going to do. Someone Else left a wonderful example to follow, but who is going to follow it? Who is going to do the things Someone Else did? When you are asked to help this year, remember - we can't depend on Someone Else anymore. ~ Author Unknown >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< (...shared from "Kitty's Mews")

This database indexes Death Certificates of persons who died in Ohio in the above years, useful for determining date of death and certificate number. Using the index information, a researcher can later obtain a copy of the certificate itself, which holds further information. http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/search.cfm

Everything you need to know. (Be sure to click on RESOURCES too.) http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohclermo/index.htm

I keep a print-out of this handy reference. It is most complete, plus generates blank forms for each year. http://www.genealogylookups.com/census_rolls.htm

Reseraching Thomas Daniel King (1866-1934) and descendants. Came to Ohio from Virginia. Married Adella Hall (1859-?) abt 1881. Gary In a message dated 3/13/01 9:28:21 AM EST, bjgreen@infinet.com writes: << Okay gang...how about posting your specific family name requests to the List, and the others concerned can get back in touch with you, without having to go through me? >>

ADDING new names being researched by our members: Solomon and Isabella DOPP; Bethuel REYNOLDS; Samuel WALRAVEN; Grafton Molen WORSTELL; Flavious MULLEN; Matilda BEHYMER; Thomas LARAMORE; Mary WHITTLEBERRY; Homer HOSKINS; Previous Lists: Dorcas COOPER; Samuel Garrett PRATHER; Andrew MART; Tobias DOLE; VAN KOUWENHOVEN; Freelove DIBBLE; Zadock & Ezra NOBLE; Anthony CIANCIOLO; and Benjamin MALOTT; Seburn HOOTEN; Elizabeth KIRGAN; James DEBRULER; John YAZELL; Samuel GLENN; Maryarter SANDERS; Orpah KILLGORE; Keturah REYNOLDS; Dewey ELAM; Nathaniel MCGOWAN; Vashti CHURCH; Casper NOEKER; Amos DERROUGH; Margaret MULLINAX; Snoda HENDERSON; Eathanne PHILHOWER; John WEISENBORN; Maria Antonia AMESQUITA; Max MENZ; Richard DEVINNEY; Wilhelmina BEROSET; and Joshua TUTON; Mahala LAYCOCK, Elijah WARD, Pauline Zerelda RAPER, Esau Daly RICE, Peter VANBRIGGLE, Solomon WHIDDEN, and Hannah LITTLE; Eliza SELLERS & Walter BOOT(ES); Alfred IZOD & VEARIL; Elizabeth (SCHWERZEL) WEISENBORN; Phineas LEWIS; Dorcas COOPER; Samuel Garrett PRATHER; Andrew MART; Tobias DOLE; VAN KOUWENHOVEN; Freelove DIBBLE; Zadock & Ezra NOBLE; Anthony CIANCIOLO; and Benjamin MALOTT. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Note from Barbara Jean: When I first posted my offer to help researching of UNUSUAL first/last names, I logged in about 50 pieces of mail during the course of a week (Monday to Monday). Every one of those was answered. HOWEVER this morning alone, I was looking at 48 incoming...and about decided I wouldn't have time to get dressed today! I personally handled my UNUSUAL requests, then had to begin 'passing the buck' since I really don't have time to answer all the personal appeals for help, advice, additional reference, etc. Might I suggest the List itself be used for your queries, reaching out to all the great genies on this site. I can assure you there are many knowledgeable and kind spirited professionals out there, as I have been privileged to hear from several dozen. Undoubtedly there are many 'experts' in the Clermont County field...but I am not one of those. Fact of the matter is, I only began researching the Clermont County area about 6 weeks ago when I took on the charitable job of doing a family history (KELLERMAN/N, CARPENTER, FIEFHAUS, BLAUROCK) for a nearby neighbor. My further reward is in meeting all of YOU. Trading tales Barbara Jean @ "Rocky Fork Lake" near Hillsboro, OH

It has been searching just .txt [text] files. It now searches Adobe's .pdf files. To search 'just" the .pdf files inurl:pdf FAGLEY or whatever. Searching it for FAGLEY, I found several times cousin Bob Fagley's NANCY,PhD at Rutgers,and cousin Bill in Midland,Mich, and Dad's cousin Rev Fred Fagley's "History of Congregationalism". I'm not sure why Adobe's .pdf format is used. Just that I've downloaded Adobe's reader of .pdf files in the past. I guess it's an Internet format.

Hi listers...does anyone have a listing of early marriages who could please list the LIGHT folks of Clermont County starting circa 1795???? Thank you very much!!! Jim in Darke

BEGINNING AT THE CEMETERY It is useful to acquire two maps of the cemetery you are going to visit. Mark one where every grave is located that you are researching, and save the clean copy for file. The Use of the CAMERA All researchers know that authentic back-up is essential to any successful research. I have found it is best to use a 35 MM CAMERA THAT DATES THE FILM AUTOMATICALLY, as part of my research tools. This feature is priceless if photos happened to be viewed many years down the road. If someone is needing to purchase a camera anyway, let it be one with this included, to assist in genealogical work. Sometimes the only Secondary Source you can find is a photograph of the tombstone. For what it's worth, I use an inexpensive 35 MM Camera, and shoot "Kodak MAX" 400 Speed film. Since it doesn't cost much more these days to develop in duplicate, I always request that service; plus, I get 4" x 6" prints so they will be large enough to read. (The best developing price is at "Sam's" -- usually located near one of your "Wal-Mart" stores.) I ALWAYS take my first shot, on the roll, of the Cemetery Entrance so I will later know the location of the following tombstone pictures on the roll. Even if the pictures get a little mixed up later, the negatives show the consecutive order. Page protectors for negatives are most convenient to use, with a complete roll fitting into one page, and it can be held up to the light for viewing without damaging. It's also a useful filing tool. My recommended source of supply for negative holders, along with every imaginable size of plastic page holders for photographs is: "20th Century Plastics" which will mail their free catalog by calling 1-800-767-0777. I have found it very helpful to photograph every single tombstone I can find of my ancestors. It not only will preserve the image for posterity as the tombstone wears away BUT the photos are excellent reference materials. I also photograph my ancestors' tombstones for inclusion in my genealogical books. When photographing a single marker, get in close and get a FULL shot of the headstone. The dates need to be large and clear so you can later read the photo. It is also smart to get a long distance shot of the entire Section itself, to help you remember where you found the family marker. On older white stones, you may need to photograph from an angle to try and get a shadow on the names. Be sure to keep YOUR shadow out of the picture. On flat stones, you can always photograph from the back side (upside-down) to prevent a shadow. On upright stones, get low so the sun is over your shoulder or move to the side slightly. The use of CHALK, lightly rubbed over the surface, can sometimes highlight the edges of worn lettering so it will show up in a photo. A block of Styrofoam will clean moss and soil debris from old tombstones (for photographing purposes) and will not damage the stone. (One correspondent wrote back that..."Styrofoam is not Environmentally safe to use." I had to laugh as I responded that we weren't burying the stuff, just using it and would take it back home after a quick clean-up. While I go around to different cemeteries where my ancestors are buried, I also photograph some of the most unusual tombstones. I am making a separate photo album (and later a book) of those that are so different and elaborate. People certainly spent a lot of money for such things in the late 1800s and early 1900s! For one particular ancestor, I ultimately discovered why he did not have any grave marker at all, after I had made two fruitless trips to the cemetery where he was buried. He, apparently, had been such a "Black Sheep" that his family took a real short-cut and just planted him. In order to keep my records consistent, I simply took a close-up photo looking down at some plain green grass. I wrote his name on the picture. ...Been there, done that. Sharing helps! Everyone in my family who travels on vacation is asked to check certain cemeteries for ancestors, and photograph their tombstones, in route. When cemetery visits are made during weekdays, it is particularly good to check their office records, and copy down every statistic they have on the deceased. Their info also gives you the name of the Funeral Home handling the arrangements which is another source to check out. After visiting the cemetery, a follow-up visit to the local funeral home may reveal more facts about the ancestors you have located in the cemeteries. There have been times when I have been held up considerably with my follow-up visit to a funeral home. Their old records so intrigued me, I almost took up residence. Interesting Facts From Funeral Home Records Researched Back In 1915: - The cost to bury an ancestor was a mere $35. Itemizations included $2.50 for a dress; or $2.15 for a shirt, collar, and tie; 50 cents to press a suit; $4.00 for a grave; $4.00 for a Horse Team for the Hearse; and $4.00 for a Carriage and Horses for the Family.

Hi Would like to be in touch with person who requested information about the Anthony Cianciolo family from bjgreen on Clermont list. In the 1920 census there is a Cianciolo family with husband Anthony, b. abt 1879; wife Myrtle,b. abt 1888; and a son Donald, b. abt 1914. Myrtle's mother was Cornelia ( IZOD) HARRY. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Thanks for any help that can be offered. Joy in CT

Okay gang...how about posting your specific family name requests to the List, and the others concerned can get back in touch with you, without having to go through me? I woke up this morning to 48 pieces of e-mail, and regrettably cannot answer all of your ongoing individual requests. The dishes are piling up, and the dawgs may not get fed. BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jbfolsom@aol.com> To: <bjgreen@infinet.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Again...UNUSUAL First & Last Names Update > Hi > > Noticed an Anthony Ciancolo request in your email--- is his wife's name > Myrtle and they have a son Donald and they live in Cincinnati in the 1920 > census? > > Am looking for that family as they tie into the IZOD family that you so > kindly gave me oodles of information and plenty of work to follow up on. > > Joy in CT

I'll not comment on the Bethel Baptist church,and the Underground RR ,for I can think of no facts. I'll speak of the Baptist's around Andrew Coombs,at Lindale. There was a church split at that church,and\or the 1st west-the 1st 10 Mile Baptist. Mission and anti-Mission [Hard Shell]. Rev Orange Mott of the latter. "King" John Donham's line married into the Mott's. I'm speaking a step beyond any facts I've read,but I think the anti-Mission division opposed sending either missionary tracts, and\or missionaries into the South. They opposed stirring up trouble in the South. Va colony was officially Episcopal, and went thru a period, 1760,jailing Baptist ministers including Mt Washington's Corbley Road namesake's father. I've read the records of a Baptist church 'BROAD RUN" in Va 75 miles west of Wash DC. rEADING BETWEEN THE LINES-Iread of a church with,at times, only 11 white men members, and 100+ slaves belonging to non-members. And you wonder if they were jailing Baptist ministers more on slavery issues,than religious? Anyway, there was Rev tHOMPSON'S anti slavery Locust Creek Baptist assn just south of s e Clermont,in Bracken Co,Ky. That was far more anti-slavery than some Baptist Assn in the Bluegrass, but I'd think Rev John Gano's Forks of the Elkhorn church likely anti-slavery. I'll not make the jump from anti-slavery to abolutionist for Bethel's founders without knowing more. They accepted the divorced wife of a Ky-Mo slave trader living among them. I can far easier accept that their colony,from 1800,had Undergrond RRer's. Bethel Methodist's did,by 1830's. Was there a web of Clermont's doctors in the Underground RR? 1830'S PLUS. On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:52:41 -0500 "Hilda Lindner Knepp" <celtic@cinci.rr.com> writes: > Herm, > > Very interesting news today from the Bethel Baptist Church. It > appears from > the church records that the church was a member of several Ky. > Baptist > abolitionist associations. I have made contact with several > professors of > Ky. Baptist history to find out more information re these > associations. I > think it is quite possible that the member churches formed an UGRR > network. > This may be the basis on the continuing oral tradtion that the > church was > involved in the UGRR. It was, as you know, founded by > abolitionists. To > make the assertion that they were UGRR's, however, is at this point > premature. The idea is intriguing. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > To: <celtic@cinci.rr.com>; <NM1955@aol.com>; > <jmarksbury@deerfield.edu>; > <AnnaW9241@aol.com>; <AOFN234@aol.com>; <arbowling11@yahoo.com>; > <barich@fuse.net>; <BJCBogie@aol.com>; <bobfagley@sisna.com>; > <brook@allianceresearch.com>; <carlely@juno.com>; > <COOLGRANDMAH@yahoo.com>; > <djabrams@juno.com>; <ellehi@one.net>; <HENCH1@aol.com>; > <Hendcoa@aol.com>; > <JBWAMW@aol.com>; <kristal@mindspring.com>; <laceyann@bright.net>; > <lbolende@knox.net>; <mille4@juno.com>; <mireton@kmisolutions.com>; > <nadenestacy@yahoo.com>; <pjeg@aristotle.net>; <RTBRWN@yahoo.com>; > <Rufpeg@aol.com>; <shogun1946@earthlink.net>; <tomluce@peoplepc.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 5:09 PM > Subject: Re: Mark Hanna? > > > > Chase,and Blake are new. > > Dr Chase likely was of the Maine colony at Lindale, so maybe > trained by > > Dr Wm Doane, > > or Dr Samuel Tibbets, or Dr Earnest Bragdon,or Dr Levitt Pease,or > > Dr Andrew Pinkham. The latter had a farm- nw,or at the Reisinger > boat > > dock > > of Lake Harsha,within a mile of GP Riley,and 2 miles of James > Bunting. > > The Wesleyian Methodist was on N Main's east side, [rt 133] 1\2 > block > > north of RT 125 [Plane] > > My Fagaly's came to Bethel abt 1850. I thought they joined right > away. > > How old was Dr WM E THOMPSON IN 1849. 12-15? His father d in > 1840,and > > built,about > > 1835,a brick > > a block+ south,on west side of s Main [RT 133] -STANDING. > > Isaac Holmes Brown was father-in-law of Wallace Fagley,and also > > grandfather of Clark Bratton. > > The house the little girl was in was very,very near my Dad's > garden. The > > Wesleyian church was at > > the "little school building' where some of us attended 1 and 2nd > grade. > > My Mom and aunt,and > > grandmother taught there. > > Janie Jegley lived with Dr Thompson . > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:32:42 -0500 "Hilda Lindner Knepp" > > <celtic@cinci.rr.com> writes: > > > Herm, > > > > > > Thanksfor the info. will follow up. > > > > > > Found another story you might find to be interesting. In 1849 > Dr. > > > W. E. > > > Thompson was asked by Dr. Silas Chase, Isaac H. Brown, and > Benjamin > > > Rice to > > > help them lure a little slave girl to freedom. According to the > > > story the > > > slave girl was with her masters from Maysville who were visiting > a > > > Mr. Blake > > > of Bethel. (I found an Edward Blake in the tax records) Thompson > was > > > asked > > > to go to a second story room of the Wesleyan Church which was > > > directly > > > opposite of a second story room of the Blake home. Thompson > tried > > > talking > > > the little girl into coming with him, but apparently she was > afraid. > > > The > > > 1880 history mentioned that the church was not formed until 1853 > > > which puts > > > some question into the authenticity of the story. It was based > upon > > > the > > > recollection of W.E. Thompson in 1931. I suppose we could give > the > > > old guy > > > some slack for remembering exact dates that many years > afterwards. > > > > > > Gary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: HERMON B FAGLEY <hermfagley@juno.com> > > > To: <celtic@cinci.rr.com> > > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:19 PM > > > Subject: Mark Hanna? > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if the Mark Hanna referred to is Mary Linda Hannah > and > > > Bob > > > > Wichard's son,Mark Wichard. Mark Wichard's great > grandfather,Gail > > > > Hannah, > > > > and grandfather,Bob Hannah ran Bethel's Hannah Hardware store > > > years, > > > > while > > > > Mark runs his Father,Bob Wichard,and grandfather,Ed Wichard's > Auto > > > > Parts,and garage. > > > > They were Bethel's best known businessmen years. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

...putting Ruth & Howard together. BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Timmafruth@aol.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:41 AM Subject: Re: UNUSUAL First & Last Names - Update > Dear Barbara Jean, > > Noted that someone sent you the name Samuel GLENN; did you happen to find > anything; he may be the same Samuel GLENN that is on my family tree. > > Thanks for responding, > Ruth

...putting Donna & Genny together! BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gjohn45244@aol.com> To: <OHCLERMO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Barbara Jean RESEARCH > Barbara, > > I would like to contact the person who requested the lookup on Eliza SELLERS & > Walter BOOT (ES). > > I tried to send to you personally, but message was returned. > > Thanks. > > Genny