Thank you for all the information. Now I have to figure out if I have the correct generation for the correct name. All these people had so many children , named their families the same and then proceeded to marry each other !! I'm beginning to mix up apples and oranges or aunts and uncles. It's wonderful. The first Iutzi I have is a Christian ( brothers and sisters ?), from Middlehof, Hesse Cassel. Married Maria Summers (?) Children The first Ehresman I have is Jacob(?)( brothers and sisters? ) b. Bavaria ,came to US abt 1833 Married Jacobina (?) Iutzi Children Otto, Bertha, Marie Emilie , Bene (m. William Jotter) The first Jotter I have is Peter (brothers and sistera) from Hesse Darmstadt left Germ abt age 18 , 1830 married Maria Bender b.?m.? d.? Children Willam , George , Elizabeth and Emma