Hello, Barbara. I too took a look at that 1910 Hamilton, Butler co, OH census, the Dill family. Yes, Jennie was widowed but also, it lists Karl as being born in Louisiana, not in Indiana. What resource were you going by to believe he was born in Indiana? A few more questions and comments, too: a. The source you have for Karl being b IN? Death certif? Obituary? Other? b. The youngest child of Charles/Jennie was born ca 1903, Karl. So Charles died between 1900 and 1903, a smaller range to search. Okay, I wanted to see if later censuses than the 1910 would give Karl's birth place as Louisiana, too, or Indiana. So I checked 1920 censuses. I did not find any Karl/Carl Dills having been born 1903 give or take 5 years either direction, born in Indiana. However, I did find a Carl E. Dill b ca 1903 in Louisiana. This Carl was in the Marines: 1920, Eastern District, Santa Domingo, Dominican Republic: Carl E. Dill, Private, living in Ohio; city/town: Norwood, address 1907 Lexington Avenue; Male,White, 17 or 19 (think 17, tho), Single, born Louisiana, father b U.S., mother b Louisiana. The father b US, mother b LA does not concern me, because Carl lost his father right around the time of his birth and possibly his mother fairly young, too, so he might not have known. Note: Norwood is in Hamilton county, which would have made sense for your family, given that the Dills were originally there when they married and began their family. Okay, I wanted to know if this was the right Carl or not, so I wanted to look for connections to his siblings, specifically Leroy, cause Leroy's name would not have changed with marriage. I looked for Leroys in the 1920 census, too. Interestingly enough, I found one indexed as "Leson or Leroy" Dill, born in Louisiana, also. This one was in the service, too, also the Marines: 1920 UAF or UAS, New York, Seaport: Navy Yard, Puget Sound, Wash. (I know it says Navy Yard but across from Leroy's name it definitely says Marines.) Leroy (definitely Leroy) Dill, Corporal, residing: Ohio; city: Norwood; address: 1907 Lexington Ave.; Male, White, 22, Single, b Louisiana, father b Unknown U.S.; mother b Unknown, US Okay, I don't believe in coincidences too much, not with genealogy. This one listed the exact same address in the same city and same state as Carl did. So they Are related. So, I went looking for any other of the family or siblings, but this time in Norwood, Hamilton county. I mean, someone had to be living at a 1907 Lexington, right? Since the girls could/would have changed names with marriage, I went with first names only. I found a few Lulus in Norwood but none listed as living on Lexington. So, I checked Cecelias next. None matched too well, so I looked for Cecilias, just different spelling. I found several single w/wrong last names but 1 possibility (**) living on Lexington: 1920 Millcreek Twp, Precinct C/G/6?, Norwood Ward 1, Hamilton co, OH: Jake McEwen, Head, M, W, 42, M, b OH, parents b Scotland(Scotch), Ohio; Polisher and Buffer, Aluminum Co. Cecilia, wife, F, W, 23, M, b OH, parents b OH; But, get this: Ok, they list house number, then number of dwelling, then number of family, right? They're on Lexington Avenue and guess the #. It's 1907; they are family 8. Ok, so per this, I say the Karl, Leroy and Cecilia are related, obviously. Anyway, while I know many young men joined the military, I wondered why I could NOT find Jennie anywhere, definitely not under DILL but I also looked by first name only (Jennie/Jenny) for someone that might match up somehow. I did find several Jennies and all, even some in Norwood. But, the ones I found had different last names but were still single, living with fathers. One was married but living with father; that father was not a Frazee, which you said was Jennie's maiden name, nor a Dill either. So, I did a death certificate index search & found a Jennie Dill who died in 1913 in Butler county. So, if this is your Jennie, that would explain the boys being in the service also, etc. I don't know if these are yours or not but suspect strongly they are, especially with that original 1910 census giving Karl's birthplace as Louisiana. Anyway, I'll do a bit more looking for you but need to know first a definite on that birthplace for Karl. If you have some definite proof he was born in Indiana, then Charles' death probably was there. If Karl was really b in Louisiana, then Charles' death was prob there instead. Need to know that, so as to know which state to look in for Charles' death. Looking forward to hearing back from you! Like I said, I'll help look for a death record but first need to know where to look, at least the state! Looking for the death record/etc of course will tie in to finding Charles' family, parents, etc.! Happy hunting, all! Pavla Chandler, TX

Hi, I found the obit for Carl Dill online in the Preble Co. library site. http://www.pcdl.lib.oh.us/marriage/search.cfm Put Dill in the search box. It says he was born in Welsh, Louisiana and reared and educated in Aurora, In. He died in 1970. Brother Roy and sisters survived him. Norma

My dear Norma, After reading all the emails from you and Ann Trimmer regarding my Dill family, I finally realized that you had found the obit for my Charles E.Dill's youngest son!! What a great find!! I had my brain so concentrated on the father, Charles E., that I never thought to do research on his children. Now I can perhaps work backwards from Carl Dill. Regarding the information you found for me on Carl's brothers and sisters from Ancestry, no, I did not have any of that information either. I am so appreciative on what you've done for me regarding my elusive Dill family. Barbara in Indiana Norma Adams <njadams@cinci.rr.com> wrote: Hi, I found the obit for Carl Dill online in the Preble Co. library site. http://www.pcdl.lib.oh.us/marriage/search.cfm Put Dill in the search box. It says he was born in Welsh, Louisiana and reared and educated in Aurora, In. He died in 1970. Brother Roy and sisters survived him. Norma ==== OHBUTLER Mailing List ==== Search for Butler County family names ~ http://surhelp-bin.rootsweb.com/surindx.pl?site=OHBUTLER2 Barbara