Hello, Ann (Trimmer). Glad someone else has been looking at the Dills, too. Glad you listed information, too! First, I need to address the issue of Charles. I think you've misinterpreted my stance on Vincent Dill who has a son Charles (at least, you've misinterpreted if you think I was saying Vincent's Charles was the same as the other Charles living w/Ann and Margaret). I do NOT think this Charles is the same Charles as living w/Ann and Margaret on the 1870 Crosby, Hamilt co, OH census. What I said was when I originally looked, Vincent's Charles was the closest-aged Charles Dill I found in that area on the 1860 census (this was going by the 1870 census data provided originally by Barbara, saying Charles was 10 already). When I followed Vincent w/son Charles down to Indiana on the 1870 census, I showed the date the 1870 IN census was done and the date the 1870 OH census done. The reason I showed the dates was to show it was improbable that it was the same Charles. I said you never know for sure, tho (meaning, you need proofs to be sure of anything, also I've seen any number of strange things written in records here and there, etc.). I posted the information about Vincent merely to cover all bases & show what all information I looked at, NOT to say it was the same Charles. Next, I did not not follow Charles on down to the 1880. Using your information - Ann, though, about 1880 Crosby, Hamilton co, OH, you said: Ann 68 Matthew 41 son Mary 38 dau Charles son Okay, that can still be the same Ann w/others as the 1850 and 1860. The Mary who is listed may actually be Margaret but with the wrong age written. That's a possibility, depending on who gave the enumerator the information. That's what I'll call Possibility #1. And, it would explain Margaret being in the family 1850 and 60, then 1870 too but put down as Mary (or nickname). It would also mean we would not need to find a Mary in earlier censuses. Possiblity #2 is the Mary could be Matthew's wife. Sometimes when children marry, their parents consider the spouses as their kids, too. Not all the times, but sometimes. This 2nd possibility could explain the absence of a "Mary" in Ann's household on the 1850 and 1860 censuses. Third, I'm glad you looked to see if there were any Ann Dills in Hamilton county on the 1860 census. But, I don't think we have to stick with Hamilton county. I think with Butler (Hamilton twp) being so near, we must not rule out that Ann w/family moved to a different spot a little bit away. I do not think either of the two Ann Dills in Hamilton county are the same Ann; I DO think the one living in Hamilton twp, Butler co, OH IS the right Ann. Beyond the above, looking at marriage records for Hamiton county might help a bit or even birth records, if any are available or restored for that time period: a) births of the Dill children, Cort A, Margaret, Matthew, Elias, others including Charles? Is there a Mary? b) Dill marriages - for example, is there a marriage for a Matthew Dill recorded? (Like to a Mary?) c) following Matthew on to the 1900 census could give information: like, is he with a family, with sister/others? While the 1880 census gave more information than earlier ones (1850-1870), so does the 1900. The 1900 too would give relationship information of all folks in the home with regard to the head of home. As a matter of fact, I might look for that a bit later, unless someone else does first. Anyway, wanted to put this through re the Dills. Pavla Chandler, TX